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<P>You ask," if our administration is so sure they have the biggest and <BR>baddest terrorists at Gitmo, then it should be not be unusually onerous <BR>for them to prove that in a court of law.<BR><BR>If they don't have enough proof to convict, then why are they so sure <BR>they have the right people? "</P>
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<P>Paul, the government is not looking to convict. They are looking to detain people they believe are trying to hurt our troops or US Citizens. If they suspect someone is plotting against the US, they capture them, check to make sure they are not a threat, then either release them or attempt to get information from them that is useful in saving lives.</P>
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<P>You seem to ignore the fact that American Courts often release people that are guilty. You also seem to ignore the fact that the US military would have to release classified information to the public if they were to prove that the terrorist is in fact a terrorist. The terrorist could also communicate security information to try and prove their innocents. </P>
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<P>Best Regards,</P>
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<P>Donovan</P>
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<P>--- On <B>Thu, 6/12/08, Paul Rumelhart <I><godshatter@yahoo.com></I></B> wrote:<BR></P>
<BLOCKQUOTE style="PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: rgb(16,16,255) 2px solid">From: Paul <SPAN>Rumelhart</SPAN> <godshatter@yahoo.com><BR>Subject: Re: [Vision2020] [Bulk] Re: GITMO Detainees Can Challenge Detention<BR>To: "Sunil Ramalingam" <sunilramalingam@hotmail.com><BR>Cc: vision2020@moscow.com<BR>Date: Thursday, June 12, 2008, 10:39 PM<BR><BR><PRE>Why does the Supreme Court hate America?
Anywho, if our administration is so sure they have the biggest and
baddest terrorists at Gitmo, then it should be not be unusually onerous
for them to prove that in a court of law.
If they don't have enough proof to convict, then why are they so sure
they have the right people? Because they've waterboarded them?
Paul
Sunil Ramalingam wrote:
> They have never received anything like a trial as we know it. They
> have had 'hearings' in which they are unrepresented and are not
> allowed to see the evidence against them. That might be a trial
> elsewhere. In our tradition we never considered anything that
> farcical to be a trial before.
>
> Sunil
>
>
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> Date: Thu, 12 Jun 2008 22:02:36 -0700
> From: donovanjarnold2005@yahoo.com
> To: chasuk@gmail.com
> CC: vision2020@moscow.com
> Subject: Re: [Vision2020] GITMO Detainees Can Challenge Detention
>
> Chas,
>
> They were not deprived of due process of law. They were tried, and
> found guilty before they are sent and locked up in Gitmo. The
> reason they are not tried in American Civilian Courts is because
> they are not US Citizens and because if they were it would expose
> US classified information which would put US soldiers and possibly
> civilians at risk.
>
> Best Regards,
>
> Donovan
>
> */Chasuk <chasuk@gmail.com>/* wrote:
>
> On Thu, Jun 12, 2008 at 18:59, Donovan Arnold
> wrote:
>
> > Maybe we should create an "Adopt a Detainee"
program. Those
> that think they
> > are innocent detainees can line up and open their homes to
> people considered
> > to be unfairly detained at Gitmo. If they really believe
> that these people
> > are innocent, and they are released, it would be unfair to
> send them back to
> > their home country to be killed, right?
>
> I don't have any opinion as to the guilt or innocence of the
Gitmo
> detainees, so I won't be inviting them into my house, thank
you.
> However, that doesn't mean that I believe they should have
been
> deprived of the due process of law, which is the real subject
> here.
>
> Chas
>
>
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