<DIV>"I think that you are arguing that only the deliberate killing of the<BR>unambiguously ensouled qualifies as murder. Is this correct?"</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Basically, yes. <BR><BR>"I agree and disagree. Maybe, abortion shouldn't be a primary means of<BR>birth control, if only because it leads -- arguably -- to an<BR>increased risk of future infertility. As for society allowing "women<BR>to fall easily into unwanted pregnancies," getting pregnant isn't that<BR>easy."</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Even with a 3-5% chance per act, that means many unwanted pregnancies among tens of millions of sexually active teenagers and young adults. </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Birth control, education, and more opportunities for women economically for assistance would reduce the numbers. Statistics I have looked at have shown that women usually have abortions for economic reasons, and that abortions increase in economically stressed times. </DIV> <DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>I disagree, although admit I may be wrong, your assertion that young women get abortions to become adults.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Best Regards,</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Donovan<BR><BR><B><I>Chasuk <chasuk@gmail.com></I></B> wrote:</DIV> <BLOCKQUOTE class=replbq style="PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: #1010ff 2px solid">On Sat, May 17, 2008 at 12:11 AM, Donovan Arnold<BR><DONOVANJARNOLD2005@YAHOO.COM>wrote:<BR><BR>> I think the Death Penalty is wrong. But I understand it is still necessary<BR>> in some instances. I think as a society we should work to eliminate it from<BR>> being necessary.<BR><BR>Intellectually, I think the death penalty is always wrong.<BR>Emotionally, if I were the aggrieved survivor of certain heinous<BR>crimes against my loved ones, then I will probably want my vengeance.<BR>Does this justify the death penalty? No. Does it mean that I feel<BR>empathy for those whose lives have been destroyed by human
monsters?<BR>Yes. Should they become self-appointed executioners? No. Do I<BR>condemn them if they do? No. My emotions and my intellect frequently<BR>reside on different spheres, so this debate is especially difficult.<BR><BR><BR><BR><BR>> I don't think that people that support abortion are<BR>> necessarily anti-Christian or murderers. I think to be a murderer you have<BR>> to deliberately take an innocent human life with a soul. Since nobody can<BR>> know with evidence that a fetus has a soul, it cannot be deliberate talking<BR>> of a life.<BR><BR>I think that you are arguing that only the deliberate killing of the<BR>unambiguously ensouled qualifies as murder. Is this correct?<BR><BR>> But it is still wrong. And we as a society should work to<BR>> eliminate it by giving women real alternatives to abortion. Society allows<BR>> women to fall easily into unwanted pregnancies, they only allows them three<BR>> painful alternatives of adoption,
abortion or poverty.<BR><BR>I agree and disagree. Maybe, abortion shouldn't be a primary means of<BR>birth control, if only because it leads -- arguably -- to an<BR>increased risk of future infertility. As for society allowing "women<BR>to fall easily into unwanted pregnancies," getting pregnant isn't that<BR>easy. A woman is fertile only 5 - 6 days a month, and most acts of<BR>sexual congress do not result in pregnancy. Statistically, the odds<BR>of getting pregnant from any single sexual encounter is 3% - 5%.<BR>Contraception is inexpensive and widely available. "Unwanted"<BR>pregnancies are oftentimes willful, as contradictory as that seems.<BR>Becoming a mommy magically turns you into an adult, an aspirational<BR>state for many girls, but especially those girls who are members of<BR>lower socioeconomic status. When you are an adult, all of your<BR>problems go away.<BR><BR>I haven't needed to avail myself of contraceptives in years, so my<BR>information may be old, but
I recommend Depo-Provera, Norplant, or<BR>something similar being made freely available to all teenage girls.<BR>This seems like a sensible solution to me, although unfortunately it<BR>wouldn't prevent STDs.<BR><BR>Chas<BR></BLOCKQUOTE><BR><p>