<div>Paul & ya'al<br> </div>
<div>Thanks for the Dick Tracy computer work...</div>
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<div>Even a computer/Internet novice such as myself has determined via e-mail headers that some Vision2020 posts are originating from far flung corners of the world, when those authoring these posts were, perhaps, not quite forthright regarding who they were or where they were posting from...</div>
<div> </div>
<div>Ted Moffett<br> </div>
<div><span class="gmail_quote">On 5/14/08, <b class="gmail_sendername">Paul Rumelhart</b> <<a href="mailto:godshatter@yahoo.com">godshatter@yahoo.com</a>> wrote:</span>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="PADDING-LEFT: 1ex; MARGIN: 0px 0px 0px 0.8ex; BORDER-LEFT: #ccc 1px solid">
<div text="#000000" bgcolor="#ffffff"><span class="q">Joe Campbell wrote:
<blockquote type="cite"><pre>Please read this and compare the writing style to the other posts, and notice
the lack of contractions here. A very clumsy style here -- "There is a great
deal of difference between someone being discriminated against because they
are here taking a job, versus that of their race" -- versus the rather breezy
style of the other postings.
Again, if anyone -- other than Christovan -- thinks I'm wrong I'd like to here it.
</pre></blockquote><br></span>I don't want to waste my mental resources (scarce as they sometimes are) on psychoanalyzing Donovan's writing style, but I will point out that you can get some idea who is posting from where by looking at the email headers. If you have an email client that actually lets you see the headers (many Microsoft clients won't let you), then you will see something like this (taken from my copy of the email you are referencing):<br>
<br><pre>From - Wed May 14 18:02:30 2008
X-Account-Key: account2
X-UIDL: AFpXv9EAAIFiSCtqMwShAxFHSk8
X-Mozilla-Status: 0011
X-Mozilla-Status2: 10000000
X-Mozilla-Keys:
X-Apparently-To: <a onclick="return top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)" href="mailto:godshatter@yahoo.com" target="_blank">godshatter@yahoo.com</a> via <a onclick="return top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)" href="http://209.191.87.90/" target="_blank">209.191.87.90</a>; Wed, 14 May 2008 15:39:47 -0700
X-Originating-IP: [<a onclick="return top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)" href="http://64.126.132.9/" target="_blank">64.126.132.9</a>]
Authentication-Results: <a onclick="return top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)" href="http://mta352.mail.re4.yahoo.com/" target="_blank">mta352.mail.re4.yahoo.com</a> from=<a onclick="return top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)" href="http://moscow.com/" target="_blank">moscow.com</a>; domainkeys=neutral (no sig)
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by <a onclick="return top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)" href="http://mta352.mail.re4.yahoo.com/" target="_blank">mta352.mail.re4.yahoo.com</a> with SMTP; Wed, 14 May 2008 15:39:45 -0700
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Wed, 14 May 2008 15:38:45 -0700 (PDT)
(envelope-from <a onclick="return top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)" href="mailto:vision2020-bounces@moscow.com" target="_blank">vision2020-bounces@moscow.com</a>)
Received: from <a onclick="return top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)" href="http://mail-gw.fsr.net/" target="_blank">mail-gw.fsr.net</a> (<a onclick="return top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)" href="http://mail-gw.fsr.net/" target="_blank">mail-gw.fsr.net</a> [<a onclick="return top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)" href="http://64.126.132.22/" target="_blank">64.126.132.22</a>])
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(envelope-from <a onclick="return top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)" href="mailto:owner-vision2020@mail-gw.fsr.net" target="_blank">owner-vision2020@mail-gw.fsr.net</a>)
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by <a onclick="return top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)" href="http://mail-gw.fsr.net/" target="_blank">mail-gw.fsr.net</a> (8.13.1/8.12.3) with SMTP id m4EMct1v068083
for <a onclick="return top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)" href="mailto:vision2020@firststepinternet.com" target="_blank"><vision2020@firststepinternet.com></a>;
Wed, 14 May 2008 15:38:55 -0700 (PDT)
(envelope-from <a onclick="return top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)" href="mailto:donovanjarnold2005@yahoo.com" target="_blank">donovanjarnold2005@yahoo.com</a>)
Received: from source ([<a onclick="return top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)" href="http://64.126.133.12/" target="_blank">64.126.133.12</a>]) (using TLSv1) by
<a onclick="return top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)" href="http://exprod5mx242.postini.com/" target="_blank">exprod5mx242.postini.com</a> ([<a onclick="return top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)" href="http://64.18.4.10/" target="_blank">64.18.4.10</a>]) with SMTP;
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by <a onclick="return top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)" href="http://mx4.fsr.net/" target="_blank">mx4.fsr.net</a> (8.13.6/8.13.6) with SMTP id m4EMcgnB016777
for <a onclick="return top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)" href="mailto:vision2020@moscow.com" target="_blank"><vision2020@moscow.com></a>; Wed, 14 May 2008 15:38:43 -0700 (PDT)
(envelope-from <a onclick="return top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)" href="mailto:donovanjarnold2005@yahoo.com" target="_blank">donovanjarnold2005@yahoo.com</a>)
Received: from source ([<a onclick="return top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)" href="http://209.191.124.134/" target="_blank">209.191.124.134</a>]) by <a onclick="return top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)" href="http://exprod5mx213.postini.com/" target="_blank">exprod5mx213.postini.com</a>
([<a onclick="return top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)" href="http://64.18.4.10/" target="_blank">64.18.4.10</a>]) with SMTP; Wed, 14 May 2008 17:38:49 CDT
Received: (qmail 21370 invoked by uid 60001); 14 May 2008 22:38:49 -0000
X-YMail-OSG: ZAPVG5kVM1lUEPrGYOzFp6EeN.G1LAvCqFayFRDftkoa41Vpy2XU9h1rhnJuLWs5JQ--
Received: from [<a onclick="return top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)" href="http://72.24.91.109/" target="_blank">72.24.91.109</a>] by <a onclick="return top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)" href="http://web38107.mail.mud.yahoo.com/" target="_blank">web38107.mail.mud.yahoo.com</a> via HTTP;
Wed, 14 May 2008 15:38:49 PDT
Date: Wed, 14 May 2008 15:38:49 -0700 (PDT)
From: Donovan Arnold <a onclick="return top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)" href="mailto:donovanjarnold2005@yahoo.com" target="_blank"><donovanjarnold2005@yahoo.com></a>
....
</pre>Don't let this cryptic stuff scare you. What you want to look for is the "Received:" line farthest down the list, since they go in order from receiver to sender as you go down the list. In this case, you see the following:<br>
<br><br><pre>Received: from [<a onclick="return top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)" href="http://72.24.91.109/" target="_blank">72.24.91.109</a>] by <a onclick="return top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)" href="http://web38107.mail.mud.yahoo.com/" target="_blank">web38107.mail.mud.yahoo.com</a> via HTTP;
Wed, 14 May 2008 15:38:49 PDT
</pre><br><br>The IP address should be the address Donovan is posting from (<a onclick="return top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)" href="http://72.24.91.109/" target="_blank">72.24.91.109</a>). The "via HTTP" part means he's connecting through the web to yahoo's email client. I don't know if he posts from home, from work, from a friends place, from his neighbor's wifi connection, or if he's even the one using that account, but that IP address resolves to:<br>
<br><small>Non-authoritative answer:<br>109.91.24.72.in-addr.arpa name = <a onclick="return top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)" href="http://91-109.72-24-cpe.cableone.net/" target="_blank">91-109.72-24-cpe.cableone.net</a>.</small><br>
<br>This is an IP owned by <a onclick="return top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)" href="http://cableone.net/" target="_blank">cableone.net</a>, which appears to have connections in the Lewiston area but not in Moscow (unless their web page is out of date).<br>
<br>I've spot-checked a few messages, and so far all I've seen originate from this IP address.<br><br>That address could be an endpoint of an onion routing network like tor, but if that were the case I'd expect it to change frequently.<br>
<br>Donovan, can you confirm that you have Cable One as an internet provider? Not that it's any of our business, but it might help us solve this "riddle".<br><br>Paul<br> </div><br>=======================================================<br>
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