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<DIV><FONT face="Times New Roman"><EM>"In the fruit salad, the components are
clearly distinct; ethnic boundaries are intact, and reflexively "rooted"
identities are secure and stable"</EM></FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face="Times New Roman">In this world, my daughter would not exist.
The "ethnic boundaries" would not have allowed for a Euro/Native American/Latina
child because the "ethnic boundaries" would have been crossed.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face="Times New Roman">(Euro/Latina is redundant, Spain, which
conquered much of the Americas, is a European country)</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face="Times New Roman">So, lets see, a white guy with a German
surname, Eiselein, marries a woman with a Spanish surname, Rodriguez, who's
father is a full blooded Coeur d'Alene, and they produce a child that fits into
none of the "ethnic boundaries" and "rooted identities" thereby screwing up the
flavor of the entire freaking "salad".</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face="Times New Roman">Reminds me of a story I read a long time
ago in which a white father was explaining was explaining to his child
how apartheid was like a parfait, with distinct lines and levels (With
clear/white being at the top, of course.) I would be at the top, my ex would be
much lower, but above blacks, and our daughter would be somewhere between
us.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face="Times New Roman">Sorry, not buying it. This 'fruit
salad" rationale has too much potential to lead straight back to apartheid
and Jim Crow.</FONT><BR></DIV>
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<DIV style="font-color: black"><B>From:</B> <A
title="mailto:sunilramalingam@hotmail.com CTRL + Click to follow link"
href="mailto:sunilramalingam@hotmail.com">Sunil Ramalingam</A> </DIV>
<DIV><B>Sent:</B> Tuesday, May 13, 2008 5:23 PM</DIV>
<DIV><B>Cc:</B> <A
title="mailto:vision2020@mail-gw.fsr.net CTRL + Click to follow link"
href="mailto:vision2020@mail-gw.fsr.net">vision2020@mail-gw.fsr.net</A> </DIV>
<DIV><B>Subject:</B> Re: [Vision2020] Interfaith Panel Thurs. May
15</DIV></DIV></DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>I don't think anyone's saying 'Separate,' Kai. I'll bet
Chas does say 'Equal,' though.<BR><BR>Sunil<BR><BR>> From: <A
title="mailto:editor@lataheagle.com CTRL + Click to follow link"
href="mailto:editor@lataheagle.com">editor@lataheagle.com</A><BR>> To: <A
title="mailto:chasuk@gmail.com CTRL + Click to follow link"
href="mailto:chasuk@gmail.com">chasuk@gmail.com</A>; <A
href="mailto:hend5953@vandals.uidaho.edu">hend5953@vandals.uidaho.edu</A><BR>>
Date: Tue, 13 May 2008 16:53:13 -0700<BR>> CC: <A
title="mailto:vision2020@mail-gw.fsr.net CTRL + Click to follow link"
href="mailto:vision2020@mail-gw.fsr.net">vision2020@mail-gw.fsr.net</A>; <A
href="mailto:donovanjarnold2005@yahoo.com">donovanjarnold2005@yahoo.com</A><BR>>
Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Interfaith Panel Thurs. May 15<BR>> <BR>> Fruit
salad? Or to put it more simply, "Separate, but equal"?<BR>> <BR>>
<BR>> Now, where have I heard that before?????<BR>> <BR>>
--------------------------------------------------<BR>> From: "Chasuk"
<chasuk@gmail.com><BR>> Sent: Tuesday, May 13, 2008 4:36 PM<BR>> To:
"Mo Hendrickson" <hend5953@vandals.uidaho.edu><BR>> Cc: "Donovan
Arnold" <donovanjarnold2005@yahoo.com>; <BR>>
<vision2020@mail-gw.fsr.net><BR>> Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Interfaith
Panel Thurs. May 15<BR>> <BR>> > On Tue, May 13, 2008 at 3:26 PM,
Donovan Arnold<BR>> > <donovanjarnold2005@yahoo.com> asked:<BR>>
><BR>> >> Why are some people so obsessed with a person's gender,
race, religion, <BR>> >> and<BR>> >> sexual orientation? Does
it matter?<BR>> ><BR>> > On Tue, May 13, 2008 at 3:54 PM, Mo
Hendrickson<BR>> > <hend5953@vandals.uidaho.edu> replied:<BR>>
><BR>> >> It is important that we realize the inherent worth in all
people<BR>> >> for what they have to contribute to the betterment of
our nation and <BR>> >> world.<BR>> ><BR>> > And:<BR>>
><BR>> >> We all should be trying to make spaces for diversity to
enter<BR>> >> into the conversation so that one day we won't need to
rely on those<BR>> >> categories.<BR>> ><BR>> > For Mo's
first point, unconditional agreement. For his latter point,<BR>> > I
provisionally agree, as long as we are not talking about<BR>> >
homogenizing those categories to the point that they are nonexistent.<BR>>
> I'm not a melting pot proponent (an assimilationist). I'm a fruit<BR>>
> salad proponent (a multiculturalist). The Mauritian Catholic priest<BR>>
> Henri Souchon spoke of fruit salad and fruit compote. I wish I
could<BR>> > quote him directly, but I am depressingly monolingual. But I
can<BR>> > quote from someone who explicates his point very well:<BR>>
><BR>> > http://folk.uio.no/geirthe/Multiculturalism.html<BR>>
><BR>> > "... Souchon sees two possible scenarios for Mauritius
regarding the<BR>> > relationship between ethnic boundaries and the
formation of identity<BR>> > categories oblivious to ethnicity. He calls
them the fruit salad and<BR>> > the fruit compote, respectively. In the
fruit salad, the components<BR>> > are clearly distinct; ethnic boundaries
are intact, and reflexively<BR>> > "rooted" identites are secure and
stable. In the fruit compote, on the<BR>> > other hand, the different
fruits are squashed and mixed together with<BR>> > substantial use of
force. (This metaphor, it may be noted, is a<BR>> > variant of the
American melting pot metaphor.) The result of the<BR>> > compote de fruit,
in père Souchon's view, would be uprootedness,<BR>> > nihilism and
confusion. He himself therefore supports the fruit salad<BR>> >
variety..."<BR>> ><BR>> > I was in a bookstore in Vancouver, B.C. a
few years ago and read some<BR>> > translated Souchon expressing these
ideas, and they spoke to my<BR>> > cosmopolitan soul. I've thought of
myself as a fruit salad guy ever<BR>> > since.<BR>> ><BR>> >
Chas<BR>> ><BR>> >
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