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<DIV><FONT size=2>What about a perfectly healthy 20-something?</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2>While we do have a responsibility to take care of our elderly
and those unable to take care of themselves, why should we subsidize those who
decide it is easier to make a career of leeching off those of us who work
for a living?</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV style="font-color: black"><B>From:</B> <A
title="mailto:the_ivies3@yahoo.com CTRL + Click to follow link"
href="mailto:the_ivies3@yahoo.com">Tom Ivie</A> </DIV>
<DIV><B>Sent:</B> Friday, May 09, 2008 9:47 AM</DIV>
<DIV><B>To:</B> <A title=vision2020@moscow.com
href="mailto:vision2020@moscow.com">Vision2020</A> </DIV>
<DIV><B>Subject:</B> Re: [Vision2020] rebate checks</DIV></DIV></DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>What about subsidized housing? Obviously those who benefit from
it don't pay for the subsidy. I for one, don't see how many elderly and disabled
people could make it without low income housing. Are some of us saying that we
should kick them to the curb because they haven't contributed the taxes to pay
for it? <BR><BR><B><I>Paul Rumelhart <<A
href="mailto:godshatter@yahoo.com">godshatter@yahoo.com</A>></I></B> wrote:
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style="PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: rgb(16,16,255) 2px solid">While
we're on the subject, I think it's worth noting that one of the <BR>"Keating
Five" Senators accused of asking the regulators to ease off on
<BR>investigating the Lincoln Savings and Loan Association during the S&L
<BR>bailout fiasco was John McCain. Charles Keating, the Chairman of
<BR>Lincoln Savings and Loan had given John McCain $112,000 in campaign
<BR>contributions and his wife and father had invested heavily in a Keating
<BR>shopping center.<BR><BR>Paul<BR><BR>Tom Hansen wrote:<BR>> It is not
the banking industry, g-ster.<BR>> <BR>> The S&L bailout concerned a
considerable amount of savings and loans <BR>> companies that made some
serious unwise investments that (surprise!) <BR>> failed.<BR>> <BR>>
>From the March 18, 1991 edition of the New York Times at:<BR>> <BR>>
*http://tinyurl.com/47952d*<BR>> **<BR>> "The lawmakers [Congress] have
refused to give the [Bush] <BR>> Administration open-ended financing for
the savings and loan rescue, <BR>> feeling burned by the experience of
1988, when savings regulators, <BR>> facing a shortage of funds, bailed out
almost 200 savings associations <BR>> in deals now seen as giveaways. Those
deals are expected to cost <BR>> taxpayers more than $69 billion. "<BR>>
<BR>> And . . .<BR>> <BR>> "The track record of the Resolution Trust
Corporation is hardly <BR>> reassuring. It has sold only about a quarter of
the $120 billion in <BR>> assets that it held at the end of last year from
the 352 savings <BR>> associations that it had seized, auditors at the
General Accounting <BR>> Office said. Its task has been complicated because
the portfolio <BR>> includes many undesirable investments, like raw land
and high-risk <BR>> 'junk bonds.'"<BR>> <BR>> Maybe it's about time
we got the rich off of welfare, dontcha think? <BR>> Or dontcha
think?<BR>> <BR>> Seeya round town, Moscow<BR>> <BR>> Tom
Hansen<BR>> Moscow, Idaho<BR>><BR>><BR>><BR>>
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From: jampot@roadrunner.com<BR>> To: ophite@gmail.com<BR>> Date: Fri, 9
May 2008 06:09:42 -0700<BR>> CC: vision2020@moscow.com<BR>> Subject: Re:
[Vision2020] rebate checks<BR>><BR>> I am, for the most part, not a fan
of corporate bail outs either.<BR>> But since your question is how is
bailing out the banking industry<BR>> any less "welfare" than giving poor
people money to spend on food<BR>> a reply is in order. The banking
industry pays huge amounts in<BR>> taxes and employees many, many people.
Poor people pay no taxes<BR>> and employee no one. The government in its
bail out of selected<BR>> banks is returning a small percent of the tax
money it received<BR>> to the organization that has paid in significant
amounts in the<BR>> past and will pay more in the future. Poor people not
so much.<BR>> Banks kept open will continue to provide jobs. Poor
people<BR>> subsidized will only create more poor people. An argument can
also<BR>> be made that a portion of the banks problems were brought on
by<BR>> the government forcing them to extend credit to a much
riskier<BR>> pool of borrowers in the name of "fairness." The government,
for<BR>> all its faults, does not create poor people. It might
encourage<BR>> them to stay that way but it generally doesn't put them
there in<BR>> the first place.<BR>> <BR>> g<BR>><BR>>
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