<DIV>Chas,</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>"The words "baby" and "children" carry, emotively, enormously different<BR>weights. You have now literally increased the burden of any reasoned<BR>rebuttal by your figurative abuse."</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Me and you just use and interpret words just differently. I don't think there is much of a difference between babies or children in this context. It would however, make a difference I guess if we were talking about CPR, child rearing, size of toys to play with, but when someone is mistreating a child or baby, it doesn't really matter does it?</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>You don't see a difference between "spawn" or "offspring" but Keely does. Another difference in thinking. </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>I exaggerate in my postings, frequently, to make my point, most people get that. Others interpret it as lying, or as you do, think I need to tone it down. I mostly try to get people to see my
point, my concept. But some people like to just get hung up in the exact details of and wording of something and want to debate that instead of understanding the concept I am trying to present. Just communication style differences I guess. </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>I don't think exact numbers, 100% accurate facts and details are important to convey on the V, because we are not a decision making body, just a group of people talking about stuff and sharing ideas. </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Best Regards,</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Donovan</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV><BR><BR><B><I>Chasuk <chasuk@gmail.com></I></B> wrote:</DIV> <BLOCKQUOTE class=replbq style="PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: #1010ff 2px solid">On Mon, May 5, 2008 at 10:18 PM, Donovan Arnold<BR><DONOVANJARNOLD2005@YAHOO.COM>wrote:<BR><BR>> I don't think a baby can be guilty of a crime, and I wasn't insinuating<BR>> that. Keely knows that, and it was either a
joke, or she was being<BR>> intellectually dishonest.<BR><BR>Regardless of your intended meaning, Keely humorously rebutted your<BR>expressed meaning. She was joking with you, in other words.<BR><BR>> My point was she was offended by the use of a word to describe a baby to<BR>> illustrate a context, I was demonstrating the point that liberals do that<BR>> same thing using the term fetus when they want to abort it, and baby when<BR>> they don't.<BR><BR>Donovn, you have the habit of retroactively revising your words<BR>whenever it suits you. Your exact words:<BR><BR>"Why do liberals call them children when they are illegal immigrants<BR>but an aborted fetus when they are an economic inconvenience?"<BR><BR>The words "baby" and "children" carry, emotively, enormously different<BR>weights. You have now literally increased the burden of any reasoned<BR>rebuttal by your figurative abuse. You do this fairly frequently, but<BR>I don't know whether it is consciously
or unconsciously. Anyway,<BR>that's an aside; I don't intend to get drawn into an abortion debate.<BR>My real point is, there is little emotive difference between "spawn"<BR>and "offspring" (in my case, no difference at all), whereas there is<BR>deliberately obfuscating difference between (in context) "fetal<BR>termination" and "baby murder." Your comparison doesn't fit.<BR><BR>If your comparison were toned down a notch, so as to be less oviously<BR>incendiary -- and hence cognitively crippling -- I might actually<BR>agree with you. In fact, I would. I wouldn't find it relevant or<BR>germane, but just another Donovan derail. Still, I would agree.<BR><BR>Chas<BR><BR>=======================================================<BR>List services made available by First Step Internet, <BR>serving the communities of the Palouse since 1994. <BR>http://www.fsr.net <BR>mailto:Vision2020@moscow.com<BR>=======================================================<BR></BLOCKQUOTE><BR><p> 
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