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<DIV><FONT face=Arial>I defy you to provide even a shred of documentation for
the wildly reckless assertion made in the final sentence of your post. It is my
understanding that when evidence of misconduct became known within the
"congregation" in question it was dealt with promptly and in an absolutely
correct manner. To claim anything else is unsupportable character assassination
and bigotry. It is also, unfortunately, par for the course with a certain group
which prides itself on its unfailing tolerance.</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial>g</FONT></DIV>
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<A title=suehovey@moscow.com href="mailto:suehovey@moscow.com">Sue Hovey</A>
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A title=kjajmix1@msn.com
href="mailto:kjajmix1@msn.com">keely emerinemix</A> ; <A
title=vision2020@moscow.com
href="mailto:vision2020@moscow.com">vision2020@moscow.com</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Monday, April 21, 2008 12:14
PM</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: [Vision2020] condemning
rape</DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial>Keely, I appreciate that you read Dale's blog and
keep us in the loop. It's important we are called upon to
remember a significant number of people in this community are willing
to twist a tragic issue and use it as a bludgeon to attack
those of us who define ourselves as liberal. I think we shouldn't
be surprised this would be his issue now. He's representative of a
group of patriarchial men, willing to tolerate, even protect, males
in their congregation who are sexual
predators. </FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial>Sue H.</FONT></DIV>
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style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: black"><B>From:</B>
<A title=kjajmix1@msn.com href="mailto:kjajmix1@msn.com">keely
emerinemix</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A title=vision2020@moscow.com
href="mailto:vision2020@moscow.com">vision2020@moscow.com</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Sunday, April 20, 2008 3:16
PM</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> [Vision2020] condemning
rape</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>Visionaires,<BR><BR>The Everlasting Blogstalker, Dale
Courtney, laments today on his Right-Mind blog that Moscow's liberals are
quick to jump on the bandwagon of disapproval of the recent revelations that
young girls in the FLDS polygamist cult in West Texas are routinely forced
into sexual relationships with older men who believe that these polygamous
"celestial marriages" are essential to the practice of their faith, while
remaining silent about things like young girls being forced to "marry" older
men in some Muslim cultures. Dale believes that the shameful tolerance
his liberal foes exhibit toward the behavior of some Muslims is hypocritical
in light of their disgust over offshoot-Mormon group practices, and he, like
a good "Christian" libertarian man of chest, must make note of it. It
seems that we liberals just can't muster any disapproval of Islam, so busy
are we, I suppose, hating groups that call themselves Christian.
<BR><BR>Certainly Dale's worldview is energized by the thought that he and
his pals are witnesses to the persecution of the Church from their vantage
point of those suffering under it. It's a silly assertion, of course,
as is his smug denouncement of feminized, morally bankrupt liberals who pick
and choose their objects of outrage from a tortured position of ethical
spinelessness. I am a liberal; I know of no one, liberal or
conservative, who isn't disgusted by the reality of adult men who engage in
sex with children. I'm not aware of anyone who thinks that religion
excuses the horrors that men visit upon their victims, whether that religion
is a perversion of Christianity or a perversion of Islam. Because most
of the people I know are rational, decent people, they are angered by child
rape and outraged that it can be, and is, committed as a sort of religious
expression. Atheists and the religious are united in believing that no
God would be honored by inflicting horror on the little ones he
created.<BR><BR>I don't know if Muhammed had a sexual relationship with a
nine-year-old girl, as Dale asserts, just as I don't know if Joseph Smith
slept with underage girls. My not being Muslim or Mormon, or part of
any group that claims to be the "true expression" of either, has nothing to
do with the sexual sin of the men each faith reveres as prophets. I am
much more concerned about my own faith and the men who claim it, and who, as
Christians, perpetuate patriarchy, hierarchy, power, manipulation and sexism
in their homes, churches, and relationships. If, for example,
there were a Christian church in town that had witnessed one or two specific
instances of their men preying on young children or teenage girls, I would
expect that that church would reflect on any connection between the rape
committed by their young students of patriarchy and power, sexism and
sexuality, and the practices and teaching that the predators received from
their teachers. I would expect that that church would publicly repent
of any gender-based arrogance, hierarchy, or wielding of power it had
exhibited. I would hope that its leaders would examine a theology that
has as its origin the reality of a post-Fall seizing of ungodly power and
descent into violence, rather than the redemptive, radical justice and
equality ushered in by the Savior they claim to worship. I would pray
that such a church would see that its elevation of male power and privilege,
its defense of patriarchy, its practice of gender hierarchy and unilateral
submission, and its defensive clinging to the ways of the world and not the
fruit of the Spirit are sinful, reflecting the depotism of evil and not the
gentleness of Christlike love. I would expect that. <BR><BR>I
would be disappointed.<BR><BR>And so I will lead the charge, if that is
indeed what Dale's asking for, by announcing that this middle-aged,
progressive, evangelical homemaker, and everyone she knows, thinks men who
sleep with girls are evil. There. Now that the totality of
liberal condemnation of rape and pedophilia has been thusly offered to this
erstwhile elder, let's see if he and his other patriarchal heads of
household pause and examine if the perpetuation of sexual violence on the
weak in the name of religion has more to do with bad theology, teaching, and
practice than with the perceived indifference of Moscow's liberals. It
could be the start of an incredible spiritual renewal, revolutionary in
scope and profound in effect. Or, Dale could just write this off as
the emotional blather of someone who just doesn't know her place, a position
that is probably a lot easier to undertake while enjoying the Sabbath with
other puny patriarchs. <BR><BR>I guess we'll see . . .
<BR><BR>Keely<BR><BR><BR><BR><BR><BR>
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