<DIV> Paul,</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>You wrote:</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV class=EC_MsoNormal><SPAN style="COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'">"Oh, for Pete’s sake – does Donovan have to exaggerate everything?!?!</SPAN></DIV> <DIV class=EC_MsoNormal><SPAN style="COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'">I have a friend without health insurance who had to see a local doctor in January. She was charged $95 for the office visit, which is less than three times the amount Donovan wants us to believe."</SPAN></DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>I bet you $327, my last doctor's visit was more then $95, as you think it is. One guess as to why I am betting $327.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Ellen writes;</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>"The $35.00 per doctor visit is nothing. What really scares the crap out of me is the $5000 yearly deductable I'm forced to have in order to afford any insurance at all. Without
that high a deductable,"</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>You only pay $35 if you have insurance. This is because insurance companies arrange with medical offices to overbill people without insurance coverage. It allows both of them to charge more money for their services. </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Ellen, I am happy you can get insurance. </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Best Regards,</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Donovan</DIV> <DIV><BR><BR><B><I>Ellen Roskovich <gussie443@hotmail.com></I></B> wrote:</DIV> <BLOCKQUOTE class=replbq style="PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: #1010ff 2px solid"> <STYLE> .hmmessage P { margin:0px; padding:0px } body.hmmessage { FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY:Tahoma } </STYLE> The $35.00 per doctor visit is nothing. What really scares the crap out of me is the $5000 yearly deductable I'm forced to have in order to afford any insurance at all. Without that high a deductable, I would
have to pay over $450 per month in premiums. After my so-called retirement I had to do some shopping around to find an affordable plan. . . . and right now I feel like so many other Americans. . . I'm just gambling that I stay healthy.<BR> <BR>Ellen A. Roskovich<BR><BR><BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> Date: Sat, 29 Mar 2008 14:13:18 -0700<BR>From: sslund_2007@verizon.net<BR>To: godshatter@yahoo.com; thansen@moscow.com<BR>CC: vision2020@moscow.com<BR>Subject: Re: [Vision2020] [Bulk] Re: Uninsured adults 25 percent more likely to die<BR><BR> <META content="Microsoft SafeHTML" name=Generator> <STYLE> .ExternalClass p.EC_MsoNormal, .ExternalClass li.EC_MsoNormal, .ExternalClass div.EC_MsoNormal {margin-bottom:.0001pt;font-size:12.0pt;font-family:'Times New Roman','serif';} .ExternalClass a:link, .ExternalClass span.EC_MsoHyperlink {color:blue;text-decoration:underline;} .ExternalClass a:visited, .ExternalClass span.EC_MsoHyperlinkFollowed
{color:purple;text-decoration:underline;} .ExternalClass p {margin-right:0in;margin-left:0in;font-size:12.0pt;font-family:'Times New Roman','serif';} .ExternalClass span.EC_EmailStyle18 {font-family:'Calibri','sans-serif';color:#1F497D;} .ExternalClass .EC_MsoChpDefault {;} @page Section1 {size:8.5in 11.0in;} .ExternalClass div.EC_Section1 {page:Section1;} </STYLE> <DIV class=EC_Section1> <DIV class=EC_MsoNormal><SPAN style="COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'">In part Donovan wrote:</SPAN></DIV> <DIV class=EC_MsoNormal><SPAN style="COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'">“</SPAN>I cannot afford $300 an office visit.”</DIV> <DIV class=EC_MsoNormal><SPAN style="COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'"></SPAN> </DIV> <DIV class=EC_MsoNormal><SPAN style="COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'">Oh, for Pete’s sake – does Donovan have to exaggerate everything?!?!</SPAN></DIV> <DIV
class=EC_MsoNormal><SPAN style="COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'"></SPAN> </DIV> <DIV class=EC_MsoNormal><SPAN style="COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'">I have a friend without health insurance who had to see a local doctor in January. She was charged $95 for the office visit, which is less than three times the amount Donovan wants us to believe.</SPAN></DIV> <DIV class=EC_MsoNormal><SPAN style="COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'"></SPAN> </DIV> <DIV class=EC_MsoNormal><SPAN style="COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'">Now, I think $95 is pretty darn high, but that’s not the topic.</SPAN></DIV> <DIV class=EC_MsoNormal><SPAN style="COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'"></SPAN> </DIV> <DIV class=EC_MsoNormal><SPAN style="COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'">Perhaps Donovan could have made his point without the gross exaggeration, but he
chose not to, which only hurts his credibility.</SPAN></DIV> <DIV class=EC_MsoNormal><SPAN style="COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'"></SPAN> </DIV> <DIV class=EC_MsoNormal><SPAN style="COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'">BTW, we have health insurance, and due to the erosion in benefits caused by the “free market” of the unfettered insurance industry, we pay a heck of a lot more than $25 for a local office visit.</SPAN></DIV> <DIV class=EC_MsoNormal><SPAN style="COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'"></SPAN> </DIV> <DIV class=EC_MsoNormal><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'"></SPAN> </DIV> <DIV class=EC_MsoNormal><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'"></SPAN> </DIV> <DIV class=EC_MsoNormal><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'">Saundra Lund</SPAN></DIV> <DIV
class=EC_MsoNormal><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'">Moscow, ID</SPAN></DIV> <DIV class=EC_MsoNormal><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'"></SPAN> </DIV> <DIV class=EC_MsoNormal><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'">The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good people to do nothing.</SPAN></DIV> <DIV class=EC_MsoNormal><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'">~ Edmund Burke</SPAN></DIV> <DIV class=EC_MsoNormal><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'"></SPAN> </DIV> <DIV class=EC_MsoNormal><B><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'">***** Original material contained herein is Copyright 2008 through life plus 70 years, Saundra Lund. Do not copy, forward, excerpt, or reproduce
outside the Vision 2020 forum without the express written permission of the author.*****</SPAN></B></DIV> <DIV class=EC_MsoNormal><SPAN style="COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'"></SPAN> </DIV> <DIV style="BORDER-RIGHT: medium none; PADDING-RIGHT: 0in; BORDER-TOP: #b5c4df 1pt solid; PADDING-LEFT: 0in; PADDING-BOTTOM: 0in; BORDER-LEFT: medium none; PADDING-TOP: 3pt; BORDER-BOTTOM: medium none"> <DIV class=EC_MsoNormal><B><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Tahoma','sans-serif'">From:</SPAN></B><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Tahoma','sans-serif'"> vision2020-bounces@moscow.com [mailto:vision2020-bounces@moscow.com] <B>On Behalf Of </B>Donovan Arnold<BR><B>Sent:</B> Saturday, March 29, 2008 11:57 AM<BR><B>To:</B> Paul Rumelhart; Tom Hansen<BR><B>Cc:</B> vision2020@moscow.com; Donovan Arnold<BR><B>Subject:</B> Re: [Vision2020] [Bulk] Re: Uninsured adults 25 percent more likely to die</SPAN></DIV></DIV> <DIV
class=EC_MsoNormal> </DIV> <DIV> <DIV class=EC_MsoNormal>Paul,</DIV></DIV> <DIV> <DIV class=EC_MsoNormal> </DIV></DIV> <DIV> <DIV class=EC_MsoNormal>I don't know where you get your information, but the government doesn't pay for my medical care. I don't get any medical care. I cannot afford $300 an office visit. Just isn't in my budget.</DIV></DIV> <DIV> <DIV class=EC_MsoNormal> </DIV></DIV> <DIV> <DIV class=EC_MsoNormal>Now a person with insurance only pays $25 an office visit. I could afford the $25, but not the $300. </DIV></DIV> <DIV> <DIV class=EC_MsoNormal><SPAN style="COLOR: #1f497d"><snip></SPAN></DIV></DIV></DIV></BLOCKQUOTE><BR> <HR> Watch “Cause Effect,” a show about real people making a real difference. <A href="http://im.live.com/Messenger/IM/MTV/?source=text_watchcause" target=_new>Learn more.</A> =======================================================<BR>List services made available by First Step Internet, <BR>serving the
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