<DIV>Tom,</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>That is for enlisted. Which I won't qualify for because I cannot get a medical waiver. There are some commissioned positions I do qualify for. But, for me to be commissioned, I must have had prior service before age 34. By the time I got through basic training and Officer Training, I will have reached my 34th year. Sgt. Oswalt is not as much of an idiot as you make him out to be. </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Best Regards,</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Donovan<BR><BR><B><I>Tom Hansen <thansen@moscow.com></I></B> wrote:</DIV> <BLOCKQUOTE class=replbq style="PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: #1010ff 2px solid">I suggest that you contact Sergeant Oswalt and quote Paragraph 2-3 (Age <BR>Requirement for Enlistment), Army regulation 601-210 (Active and Reserve <BR>Components Enlistment Program) to him, where it states:<BR><BR>"2–3. Age<BR>a. Applicant is eligible for enlistment if applicant is not
less than 18 <BR>years of age and has not reached his or her 42nd birthday, or is not less <BR>than 17 years of age and has not reached their 18th birthday and the DD <BR>Form 1966 parental/guardian consent for enlistment has been completed. All <BR>NPS Regular Army and RC applicants must enlist and ship prior to their <BR>42nd birthday and be eligible for regular or non-regular retirement by age <BR>62."<BR><BR>It says NOTHING about prior service. In fact, Chapter 2, AR 601-210, <BR>deals strictly with "Enlistment in the Regular Army, Army Reserve, or Army <BR>National Guard for Nonprior Service Applicants".<BR><BR>I have attached AR 601-210 to this email for your browsing and reading <BR>pleasure.<BR><BR>As far as becoming a commissioned officer without prior service (either <BR>enlisted or commissioned), the Army ROTC program here at UI is full of <BR>them.<BR><BR>If you truly are interested in enlisting, here is a starting point:<BR><BR>http://www.goarmy.com<BR><BR>Let
me know if you need any further assistance.<BR><BR>Tom Hansen<BR>Moscow, Idaho <BR><BR><BR><BR>> Tom,<BR>> <BR>> First, it is disgusting that any Hospital would charge $45,000 for <BR>something. Obviously,<BR>nobody can afford that, and no Doctor is worth that for a procedure.<BR>> <BR>> Second, many places turn down Tri-Care. And it doesn't cover <BR>everything. <BR>> <BR>> Third, I have tried to get commissioned, I did not qualify because I <BR>do not have<BR>previously enlistment. I missed it by about 3 months. The extension in age <BR>is only for<BR>officers that have previous service. I had a long conversation about this <BR>with Sgt. Oswalt<BR>who the recruiting expert for Idaho. He is stationed in Boise, If you <BR>doubt me, look him<BR>up. <BR>> <BR>> Finally, the recruiting station is not in the Mall anymore, they were <BR>kicked out by the<BR>PEM management.<BR>> <BR>> But, if you can get me in Hansen, I would join. <BR>>
<BR>> Best Regards,<BR>> <BR>> Donovan<BR>> <BR>> Tom Hansen <THANSEN@MOSCOW.COM>wrote:<BR>> The best health care program that I am aware of is the one to which I <BR>am a <BR>> part of . . . Tri-Care.<BR>> <BR>> I pay no premiums. Yet, I have been a member since July of 1989. The <BR>> most I have ever paid for a medical prescription is $9.00 (and that was <BR>> only once).<BR>> <BR>> In June of 2006, my spouse was hospitalzed at Gritman (10 days in ICU <BR>and <BR>> 14 days in CCU). The total bill came to over $45,000 of which I paid <BR>> $1,200 out of pocket.<BR>> <BR>> A couple years before that I was hospitalized with a double hernia. The <BR>> total bill on that came to approximately $12,000 of which I paid $600 <BR>out <BR>> of pocket.<BR>> <BR>> Not only that, but after my spouse was discharged from Gritman, TriCare <BR>> informed me that we had satisfied the "deductible" portion of our annual
<BR>> health care cycle. As such, subsequent prescriptions (through the <BR>> remainder of the fiscal year) were FREE.<BR>> <BR>> "Where can I sign up for such a great health care program?" you ask.<BR>> <BR>> Quite simple, Arnold. It is a simple two-step process.<BR>> <BR>> 1) Enlist into military service.<BR>> <BR>> 2) Retire from military service.<BR>> <BR>> "Oh, no, Tom. I am too old to enlist," you say.<BR>> <BR>> No, you're not, Donnie-boy.<BR>> <BR>> Thanks to the Department of Defense lowering the standards for entry <BR>into <BR>> military service, coupled with an extended 20-year retirement age (from <BR>55 <BR>> to 62), you can sign up Monday.<BR>> <BR>> I'll be going over to the mall later today, Donnie-boy. Should I stop by <BR>> the recruiter's office and have them pencil yo uin for 9:00 Monday?<BR>> <BR>> Tom-Tom Handson<BR>> Moscow, Idaho<BR>> <BR>> <BR>> <BR>> >
Keely,<BR>> > <BR>> > I don't need to see the impacts of not having insurance, I experience <BR>> it. I don't need a<BR>> government study to tell me that not having medical care causes poor <BR>> health. That is a no<BR>> brainer.<BR>> > <BR>> > What we need are either no government subsidies for doctors and <BR>> hospitals that charge<BR>> $300 an hour, or we need tighter regulation of how much a doctor can <BR>> charge when he/she is<BR>> working in a tax supported building who got their degree on a tax <BR>> supported education. <BR>> > <BR>> > No reasonable person honestly thinks he or she is worth $300 an hour. <BR>> That is<BR>> ridiculous. Nobody can afford that unless you are rich.<BR>> > <BR>> > Health insurance companies discriminate extensively, limit coverage <BR>> more extensively,<BR>> and charge far more than the below average income person can afford. <BR>> >
<BR>> > The other problem with health insurance companies is that they charge <BR>> monthly, and poor<BR>> people cannot always afford to pay each month. <BR>> > <BR>> > But I say, what is the point of getting insurance, it doesn't cover <BR>> anything most people<BR>> need. I just cannot get health insurance for anything I really need. <BR>> > <BR>> > We would be better off banning health insurance for everyone, then <BR>> trying to get<BR>> everyone to have it. Then Doctors and Hospitals would be forced to <BR>charge <BR>> reasonable rates<BR>> that an open and free market could afford, or have zero clients trying <BR>to <BR>> charge $6000 a<BR>> visit. It is only because the government has legalized exploitation of <BR>the <BR>> people that<BR>> Hospitals and Doctors can exploit people that are sick, injured, or in <BR>> need or care. And I<BR>> won't even get into the Health Insurance Companies, or
the <BR>pharmaceutical <BR>> companies that<BR>> seem to invent illnesses to sell their legalized drug pushing. <BR>> > <BR>> > Now what they do is charge is $4000 an hour and come down on the price <BR>> for those that<BR>> have health insurance, even less is they have medicaid or medicare.<BR>> > <BR>> > Hospitals destroy poor people everyday financially because those <BR>> without health<BR>> insurance cannot afford the higher rates that Hospitals and Doctors <BR>charge <BR>> people that<BR>> cannot afford health coverage. I think it highly immoral to charge the <BR>> poor that cannot<BR>> afford health insurance a higher rate than then wealthier people that <BR>can <BR>> afford health<BR>> insurance for the EXACT same service. And I cannot see why Liberals in <BR>> Moscow support that<BR>> policy, that even Gritman holds.<BR>> > <BR>> > Best Regards,<BR>> > <BR>> > Donovan<BR>>
> <BR>> > <BR>> > <BR>> > keely emerinemix wrote:<BR>> > .hmmessage P { margin:0px; padding:0px } body.hmmessage { <BR>> FONT-SIZE: 10pt; <BR>> FONT-FAMILY:Tahoma } Goodness, "Donovan," you sound more and more like <BR>> a Courtney-ite<BR>> Libertarian every day. <BR>> > <BR>> > I'm sorry that you fail to see that while all of us die, the poor <BR>among <BR>> us die earlier of<BR>> things that generally don't kill the rich among us. I don't know what's <BR>> more pitiful --<BR>> that you can't see that, or that you don't give a damn.<BR>> > <BR>> > Keely<BR>> > <BR>> > <BR>> > <BR>> > <BR>> > <BR>> > ---------------------------------<BR>> > Date: Fri, 28 Mar 2008 20:05:07 -0700<BR>> > From: donovanjarnold2005@yahoo.com<BR>> > To: nickgier@adelphia.net; vision2020@moscow.com<BR>> > Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Uninsured adults 25 percent more
likely to <BR>die<BR>> > <BR>> > Interesting study because I always thought we all had an equal chance <BR>> of dying, 100%.<BR>> > <BR>> > <BR>> > Best Regards,<BR>> > <BR>> > Donovan<BR>> > <BR>> > nickgier@adelphia.net wrote:<BR>> > Families USA Study Shows How Many Die Because They Lack Health <BR>> Insurance - 03/26/08,<BR>> Workers Independent News<BR>> > <BR>> > A first-ever report breaks down the death rate of the uninsured state-<BR>by-<BR>> state, and finds<BR>> that the uninsured are more likely to die sooner than the insured. Jesse <BR>> Russell reports:<BR>> > <BR>> > Families USA has finished the first-ever study breaking down state by <BR>> state how many die<BR>> every year due to a lack of health insurance. So far the organization <BR>has <BR>> completed<BR>> studies in 13 of the 50 states, and on Tuesday held a conference call <BR>>
regarding the<BR>> results in Wisconsin. According to Families USA, 10.7 percent of those <BR>> between the ages of<BR>> 25 and 64 living in Wisconsin are uninsured and they estimate that <BR>> approximately 250<BR>> Wisconsinites died in 2006 due to being uninsured. Dr. Barbara Horner-<BR>> Ibler, medical<BR>> director at the Bread of Healing Clinic in Milwaukee said that it <BR>isn’t <BR>> just a problem<BR>> of the uninsured, but also of insurance holders with deductibles that <BR>are <BR>> too high:<BR>> > <BR>> > [Horner-Ibler]: "We also have the issue now of not just the uninsured, <BR>> but patients who<BR>> have high deductible plans who are delaying care because they do not <BR>have <BR>> access and the<BR>> access that they do have is much too expensive for them to be able to <BR>> afford on their<BR>> budget."<BR>> > <BR>> > According to the study, which covered 30 years of statistics,
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