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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Yes, and it's fun to poke around in on your
own. Or to say to Betsy or Bob, what should I be reading now?</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Sue </FONT></DIV>
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<A title=donovanjarnold2005@yahoo.com
href="mailto:donovanjarnold2005@yahoo.com">Donovan Arnold</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A title=suehovey@moscow.com
href="mailto:suehovey@moscow.com">Sue Hovey</A> ; <A title=betsyd@turbonet.com
href="mailto:betsyd@turbonet.com">Betsy Dickow</A> ; <A
title=vision2020@moscow.com
href="mailto:vision2020@moscow.com">vision2020@moscow.com</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Sunday, March 23, 2008 12:10
AM</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: [Vision2020] New pledge of
alligance written by a 15 yearoldinArizona</DIV>
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<DIV>BookPeople can find anything. I am amazed what books they can fit in that
limited space. But I am more amazed at how they seem to know exactly where
each book is in the store. You know, when you ask for a book at a big chain,
they say it is over there somewhere in the such and such section, if they have
it. When you ask for a book at Bookpeople, they take you right to book like
they just put it there two hours ago. I don't know how they do that with so
many books. </DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>Best Regards,</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>Donovan<BR><BR><B><I>Sue Hovey <suehovey@moscow.com></I></B>
wrote:</DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Yes, of course. I was being facetious,
but you are exactly right.</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>And for those who really want to understand the
idea of allegiance and true compassion, let me recommend Elie Wiesel's book,
Night, which was reissued several years ago. You, too,
Donovan. I'm sure Betsy can get it for you if you
ask.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Sue H.</FONT></DIV>
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<A title=betsyd@turbonet.com href="mailto:betsyd@turbonet.com">Betsy
Dickow</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A title=suehovey@moscow.com
href="mailto:suehovey@moscow.com">Sue Hovey</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Saturday, March 22, 2008 4:52
PM</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: [Vision2020] New pledge
of alligance written by a 15 yearoldinArizona</DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>I was referring to the ship that was turned
back when the US would not accept the refugees...referencing Sue's comment
about the wandering boat.</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Betsy</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV
style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: black"><B>From:</B>
<A title=suehovey@moscow.com href="mailto:suehovey@moscow.com">Sue
Hovey</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A
title=donovanjarnold2005@yahoo.com
href="mailto:donovanjarnold2005@yahoo.com">Donovan Arnold</A> ; <A
title=betsyd@turbonet.com href="mailto:betsyd@turbonet.com">Betsy
Dickow</A> ; <A title=vision2020@moscow.com
href="mailto:vision2020@moscow.com">'vision2020'</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Saturday, March 22, 2008
12:08 PM</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: [Vision2020] New
pledge of alligance written by a 15 yearoldinArizona</DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Good Lord, Donovan, read the whole thing
and then respond to it--or not. I am well aware of the difference
between refuses and unable......</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Sue </FONT></DIV>
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<DIV
style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: black"><B>From:</B>
<A title=donovanjarnold2005@yahoo.com
href="mailto:donovanjarnold2005@yahoo.com">Donovan Arnold</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A title=betsyd@turbonet.com
href="mailto:betsyd@turbonet.com">Betsy Dickow</A> ; <A
title=vision2020@moscow.com
href="mailto:vision2020@moscow.com">'vision2020'</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Friday, March 21, 2008 8:38
PM</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: [Vision2020] New
pledge of alligance written by a 15 yearoldinArizona</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>
<DIV>"And there are thousands of babies born in this country each day
who are, in fact, citizens, who cannot say the pledge."--SueH</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>LOL. There is a difference between refuses and unable. Children
cannot consent, so they cannot refuse or accept.</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>"This really happened in WWII, but the
poor Jews were sent back to Germany to die in gas
chambers."--Betsy Dickow</FONT></DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>What a load of baloney. The USA did not send Jews to Germany to
get gassed by Hitler because they refused the pledge. The pledge
wasn't even official under after WWII.</DIV></DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>Bottom line is here, if you don't care about the country
that protects you, go live in one that you will. </DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>Best Regards,</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>Donovan<BR><BR><B><I>Betsy Dickow
<betsyd@turbonet.com></I></B> wrote:</DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>This really happened in WWII, but the
poor Jews were sent back to Germany to die in gas
chambers.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Sorry for the grim
reminder.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Betsy</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV
style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: black"><B>From:</B>
<A title=bookpeople@moscow.com
href="mailto:bookpeople@moscow.com">bookpeople of moscow</A>
</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A
title=betsyd@turbonet.com
href="mailto:betsyd@turbonet.com">betsyd@turbonet.com</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Friday, March 21, 2008
8:47 PM</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: [Vision2020] New
pledge of alligance written by a 15 year oldinArizona</DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>And there are thousands of babies
born in this country each day who are, in fact, citizens, who
cannot say the pledge. When they are old enough we
could have a sorting process whereby those who say it get a
stamp of citizenship and those who refuse get sent off to one of
those 100s countries you mention. Of course, if they
aren't wanted there we could just keep them on some ship and
let them float from port to port--sort of modern day Philip
Nolans. (Remember--THE MAN WITHOUT A COUNTRY) And Geo.
Bush wouldn't even have to build a fence to keep them out.
Simple solutions for ..............................</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>SueH </FONT></DIV>
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<DIV
style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: black"><B>From:</B>
<A title=donovanjarnold2005@yahoo.com
href="mailto:donovanjarnold2005@yahoo.com">Donovan Arnold</A>
</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A
title=idahotom@hotmail.com
href="mailto:idahotom@hotmail.com">Tom Hansen</A> ; <A
title=sslund_2007@verizon.net
href="mailto:sslund_2007@verizon.net">Saundra Lund</A> ; <A
title=garrettmc@verizon.net
href="mailto:garrettmc@verizon.net">'Garrett Clevenger'</A> ; <A
title=vision2020@moscow.com
href="mailto:vision2020@moscow.com">'Vision 2020'</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Friday, March 21,
2008 4:22 PM</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: [Vision2020]
New pledge of alligance written by a 15 year oldin Arizona</DIV>
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<DIV>I think everyone that refuses the pledge should not be
allowed citizenship. If you don't like this country, there are
100s of others to choose from. </DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>Best Regards,</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>Donovan<BR><BR><B><I>Tom Hansen <<A
href="mailto:idahotom@hotmail.com">idahotom@hotmail.com</A>></I></B>
wrote:</DIV>
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"The Pledge of Allegiance" as acknowledged and honored by most
of us (myself included) . . .<BR><A
href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NfjZj4NY7EM">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NfjZj4NY7EM</A><BR> <BR>Another
Pledge of Allegiance reflective of others among us . . .<BR><A
href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hGwssbm2V5E">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hGwssbm2V5E</A><BR> <BR>You
make the call, Moscow.<BR> <BR>Tom Hansen<BR>Moscow,
Idaho<BR><BR><BR><BR>
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<BR>> Date: Fri, 21 Mar 2008 12:18:39 -0700<BR>> From:
sslund_2007@verizon.net<BR>> To: garrettmc@verizon.net;
vision2020@moscow.com<BR>> Subject: Re: [Vision2020] New
pledge of alligance written by a 15 year old in
Arizona<BR>> <BR>> Hi Garrett,<BR>> <BR>> Don't
worry -- you didn't miss anything, I'm sorry to say :-( I
really<BR>> liked Roger's forward about Attitude and so was
disappointed to read the<BR>> forwarded new Pledge of
Allegiance School Prayer :-( It was nothing more<BR>> than
yet another Christian refusing to accept that we've got
non-Christian<BR>> kids in public schools whose faith is
just as important to them as Christian<BR>> views are to
Christians.<BR>> <BR>> <BR>> Loving My Delete
Key,<BR>> Saundra Lund<BR>> Moscow, ID<BR>> <BR>>
The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good
people to do<BR>> nothing.<BR>> ~ Edmund Burke<BR>>
<BR>> ***** Original material contained herein is Copyright
2008 through life plus<BR>> 70 years, Saundra Lund.
Do not copy, forward, excerpt, or reproduce outside<BR>>
the Vision 2020 forum without the express written permission
of the<BR>> author.*****<BR>> <BR>> -----Original
Message-----<BR>> From: vision2020-bounces@moscow.com
[mailto:vision2020-bounces@moscow.com]<BR>> On Behalf Of
Garrett Clevenger<BR>> Sent: Friday, March 21, 2008 10:11
AM<BR>> To: Vision 2020<BR>> Subject: [Vision2020] New
pledge of alligance written by a 15 year old in<BR>>
Arizona<BR>> <BR>> I couldn't read the attachment sent
by Roger, but here<BR>> is the "pledge" I say. Personally,
I have a hard time<BR>> pledging allegiance to a
flag...<BR>> <BR>> <BR>> I pledge allegiance to this
Earth<BR>> and the life that makes this place
possible<BR>> and to all of creation on which we
depend.<BR>> One planet, under the sun,<BR>>
indivisible, with liberty and justice for all.<BR>>
<BR>> <BR>> Not nearly as controversial as the standard
pledge,<BR>> now is it?;)<BR>> <BR>> gclev<BR>>
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