<DIV>"And there are thousands of babies born in this country each day who are, in fact, citizens, who cannot say the pledge."--SueH</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>LOL. There is a difference between refuses and unable. Children cannot consent, so they cannot refuse or accept.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>"This really happened in WWII, but the poor Jews were sent back to Germany to die in gas chambers."--Betsy Dickow</FONT></DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>What a load of baloney. The USA did not send Jews to Germany to get gassed by Hitler because they refused the pledge. The pledge wasn't even official under after WWII.</DIV></DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Bottom line is here, if you don't care about the country that protects you, go live in one that you will. </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Best Regards,</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Donovan<BR><BR><B><I>Betsy Dickow <betsyd@turbonet.com></I></B> wrote:</DIV>
<BLOCKQUOTE class=replbq style="PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: #1010ff 2px solid"> <META content="MSHTML 6.00.6000.16608" name=GENERATOR> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>This really happened in WWII, but the poor Jews were sent back to Germany to die in gas chambers.</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Sorry for the grim reminder.</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Betsy</FONT></DIV> <BLOCKQUOTE style="PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px"> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV> <DIV style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: black"><B>From:</B> <A title=bookpeople@moscow.com href="mailto:bookpeople@moscow.com">bookpeople of moscow</A> </DIV> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A title=betsyd@turbonet.com
href="mailto:betsyd@turbonet.com">betsyd@turbonet.com</A> </DIV> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Friday, March 21, 2008 8:47 PM</DIV> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: [Vision2020] New pledge of alligance written by a 15 year oldinArizona</DIV> <DIV><BR></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>And there are thousands of babies born in this country each day who are, in fact, citizens, who cannot say the pledge. When they are old enough we could have a sorting process whereby those who say it get a stamp of citizenship and those who refuse get sent off to one of those 100s countries you mention. Of course, if they aren't wanted there we could just keep them on some ship and let them float from port to port--sort of modern day Philip Nolans. (Remember--THE MAN WITHOUT A COUNTRY) And Geo. Bush wouldn't even have to build a fence to keep them out. Simple solutions for
..............................</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>SueH </FONT></DIV> <BLOCKQUOTE style="PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px"> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV> <DIV style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: black"><B>From:</B> <A title=donovanjarnold2005@yahoo.com href="mailto:donovanjarnold2005@yahoo.com">Donovan Arnold</A> </DIV> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A title=idahotom@hotmail.com href="mailto:idahotom@hotmail.com">Tom Hansen</A> ; <A title=sslund_2007@verizon.net href="mailto:sslund_2007@verizon.net">Saundra Lund</A> ; <A title=garrettmc@verizon.net href="mailto:garrettmc@verizon.net">'Garrett Clevenger'</A> ; <A title=vision2020@moscow.com href="mailto:vision2020@moscow.com">'Vision 2020'</A> </DIV> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Friday, March
21, 2008 4:22 PM</DIV> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: [Vision2020] New pledge of alligance written by a 15 year oldin Arizona</DIV> <DIV><BR></DIV> <DIV>I think everyone that refuses the pledge should not be allowed citizenship. If you don't like this country, there are 100s of others to choose from. </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Best Regards,</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Donovan<BR><BR><B><I>Tom Hansen <<A href="mailto:idahotom@hotmail.com">idahotom@hotmail.com</A>></I></B> wrote:</DIV> <BLOCKQUOTE class=replbq style="PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: #1010ff 2px solid"> <STYLE>.hmmessage P { PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 0px; PADDING-BOTTOM: 0px; MARGIN: 0px; PADDING-TOP: 0px } BODY.hmmessage { FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma } </STYLE> "The Pledge of Allegiance" as acknowledged and honored by most of us (myself included) . . .<BR><A
href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NfjZj4NY7EM">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NfjZj4NY7EM</A><BR> <BR>Another Pledge of Allegiance reflective of others among us . . .<BR><A href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hGwssbm2V5E">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hGwssbm2V5E</A><BR> <BR>You make the call, Moscow.<BR> <BR>Tom Hansen<BR>Moscow, Idaho<BR><BR><BR><BR> <HR id=stopSpelling> <BR>> Date: Fri, 21 Mar 2008 12:18:39 -0700<BR>> From: sslund_2007@verizon.net<BR>> To: garrettmc@verizon.net; vision2020@moscow.com<BR>> Subject: Re: [Vision2020] New pledge of alligance written by a 15 year old in Arizona<BR>> <BR>> Hi Garrett,<BR>> <BR>> Don't worry -- you didn't miss anything, I'm sorry to say :-( I really<BR>> liked Roger's forward about Attitude and so was disappointed to read the<BR>> forwarded new Pledge of Allegiance School Prayer :-( It was nothing more<BR>> than yet another Christian refusing to accept that we've got
non-Christian<BR>> kids in public schools whose faith is just as important to them as Christian<BR>> views are to Christians.<BR>> <BR>> <BR>> Loving My Delete Key,<BR>> Saundra Lund<BR>> Moscow, ID<BR>> <BR>> The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good people to do<BR>> nothing.<BR>> ~ Edmund Burke<BR>> <BR>> ***** Original material contained herein is Copyright 2008 through life plus<BR>> 70 years, Saundra Lund. Do not copy, forward, excerpt, or reproduce outside<BR>> the Vision 2020 forum without the express written permission of the<BR>> author.*****<BR>> <BR>> -----Original Message-----<BR>> From: vision2020-bounces@moscow.com [mailto:vision2020-bounces@moscow.com]<BR>> On Behalf Of Garrett Clevenger<BR>> Sent: Friday, March 21, 2008 10:11 AM<BR>> To: Vision 2020<BR>> Subject: [Vision2020] New pledge of alligance written by a 15 year old in<BR>> Arizona<BR>> <BR>> I
couldn't read the attachment sent by Roger, but here<BR>> is the "pledge" I say. Personally, I have a hard time<BR>> pledging allegiance to a flag...<BR>> <BR>> <BR>> I pledge allegiance to this Earth<BR>> and the life that makes this place possible<BR>> and to all of creation on which we depend.<BR>> One planet, under the sun,<BR>> indivisible, with liberty and justice for all.<BR>> <BR>> <BR>> Not nearly as controversial as the standard pledge,<BR>> now is it?;)<BR>> <BR>> gclev<BR>> <BR>> <BR>> =======================================================<BR>> List services made available by First Step Internet, <BR>> serving the communities of the Palouse since 1994. <BR>> http://www.fsr.net <BR>> mailto:Vision2020@moscow.com<BR>> =======================================================<BR><BR>=======================================================<BR>List services made available by First Step Internet,
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