<DIV>Roger,</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>You write,</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>"Saying that an atheist does not believe that all people are created equal in the eyes of god is not to say that they don't believe that all people are equal."</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV><BR> Does nature create all people equal, Roger? Of course not. People are only equal in the eyes of God. They are not equal in any other way. There are great differences between people created in nature that make some people better suited than others for this world. </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Likewise, if you do not believe that the inherent rights listed in the Constitution are created by God, then they were created only by men, flawed men, and thus, the Constitution of the United States is only a piece of paper. </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>There is no such thing as right or wrong, if there is no God. Because only men can decide what is right and wrong, and men can change their
minds. Slavery is not wrong, unless men think it is wrong. Which means that slavery was right, until men thought it to be wrong. Then and only then would it be wrong. It could not always be right or wrong, because God does not exist to an Atheist. </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>I think it is important that leaders of men know what is right and wrong, and understand it is something fixed, something factual, not something that can move based on what they think is right and wrong at the moment. </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>An Atheist, does not view other people any more than being a more highly evolved form of monkeys, chimps, and orangutans. People do not have souls, they are simply just more intelligent creatures than the ones they keep in zoos. They believe we are fools for believing in a God and it is as stupid as believing in the Easter Bunny or the Tooth Fairy. </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Best Regards,</DIV> <DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>Donovan<BR><BR><B><I>lfalen <lfalen@turbonet.com></I></B> wrote:</DIV> <BLOCKQUOTE class=replbq style="PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: #1010ff 2px solid">Donovan<BR>Saying that an atheist does not believe that all people are created equal in the eyes of god is not to say that they don't believe that all people are equal.<BR>Roger<BR>-----Original message-----<BR>From: Donovan Arnold donovanjarnold2005@yahoo.com<BR>Date: Wed, 12 Mar 2008 23:03:32 -0700<BR>To: Tom Hansen thansen@moscow.com, Chasuk chasuk@gmail.com, lfalen lfalen@turbonet.com, godshatter@yahoo.com, vision2020@moscow.com, donaledwards@hotmail.com<BR>Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Of, By &<BR><BR>> TH,<BR>> <BR>> Are you asking me why I don't think someone who doesn't believe all people are created equal in the eyes of God is not fit to decide which men die and which men live in the battle field?<BR>> <BR>> Or are you asking me why I don't think an Atheist doesn't
believe that all men are created equal in the eyes of God?<BR>> <BR>> Best Regards,<BR>> <BR>> Donovan<BR>> <BR>> Tom Hansen <THANSEN@MOSCOW.COM>wrote:<BR>> Au contraire, Chas.<BR>> <BR>> I simply do not believe that a person's religious preference (or lack <BR>> thereof) should be applied as a measuring stick of that person's ability <BR>> to lead.<BR>> <BR>> Question for you, D. Arnold: How do you confuse an atheist with a person <BR>> that does not support the US Constitution or equality? I have known <BR>> several admitted atheists in the Army ranking from private first class (E-<BR>> 3) to master sergeant (E-8) to lieutenant colonel (O-5).<BR>> <BR>> Although I may not have agreed with some of the orders issued to me by <BR>> atheist supervisors (these terms are not mutually exclusive), my <BR>> disagreement was not on the basis of their lack or religious conviction.<BR>> <BR>> I anxiously await your
response to my question.<BR>> <BR>> Tom "Protestant - or so it says on my dog tags" Hansen<BR>> Moscow, Idaho<BR>> <BR>> <BR>> > Tom,<BR>> > <BR>> > I am very concerned. Apparently, you believe that a<BR>> > Constitution-scoffer and inequality proponent would be a suitable<BR>> > leader of our troops. I know this because our ever-discerning Donovan<BR>> > Arnold somehow divined it from this thread. It has to be true!<BR>> > <BR>> > Dononvan wrote:<BR>> > <BR>> > > So you think someone that doesn't believe in the Constitution or that <BR>> all<BR>> > > men are created equal should have command over the life and death of <BR>> our<BR>> > > troops?<BR>> > <BR>> > Explain yourself, Tom!!!<BR>> > <BR>> > Woefully,<BR>> > <BR>> > Chas<BR>> > <BR>> <BR>> <BR>> "People who ridicule others while hiding behind anonymous monikers in
chat-<BR>> room forums are neither brave nor clever." <BR>> <BR>> - Latah County Sheriff Wayne Rausch (August 21,<BR>> 2007)<BR>> <BR>> ---------------------------------------------<BR>> This message was sent by First Step Internet.<BR>> http://www.fsr.com/<BR>> <BR>> <BR>> =======================================================<BR>> List services made available by First Step Internet, <BR>> serving the communities of the Palouse since 1994. <BR>> http://www.fsr.net <BR>> mailto:Vision2020@moscow.com<BR>> =======================================================<BR>> <BR>> <BR>> <BR>> ---------------------------------<BR>> Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now.<BR>> <BR></BLOCKQUOTE><BR><p> 
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