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Ha! <br><br>Those were scary days, indeed. Somehow ducking under a desk just didn't seem to be enough . . . <br><br>Keely<br><br><br><br><br>> To: kjajmix1@msn.com; jampot@roadrunner.com; sbasoa@moscow.com; vision2020@moscow.com<br>> From: thansen@moscow.com<br>> Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Narcissist Nader May Run Attention<br>> Date: Wed, 27 Feb 2008 03:01:44 +0000<br>> <br>> You must admit, though, Keely.<br>> <br>> George Sr. had a great health insurance policy. You realize, of course, <br>> that Dan Quayle was only a heart-beat away from the presidency.<br>> <br>> Tom Hansen<br>> Moscow, Idaho<br>> <br>> > <br>> > <br>> > I'm curious about your previous assertion that FDR was one of the worst<br>> pre> sidents ever. Can you tell me why?<br>> > <br>> > I think he was one of the best. I'm not being snide. <br>> > <br>> > I maintain Reagan was one of the worst. Again, not being snide.<br>> > <br>> > I think Jimmy Carter was one of the most decent men to ever be president,<br>> a> nd proof positive that decent men are often really bad presidents. With<br>> no> trace of snideness -- I'm entirely sincere in this -- I think George <br>> W.<br>> B> ush is neither decent nor a good president. With acknowledged sarcasm, <br>> I<br>> s> uppose the nicest thing I could say about him is that he would be a good<br>> ne> xt-door neighbor if I needed a lot of brush cut around my property.<br>> > <br>> > Your turn.<br>> > <br>> > Keely<br>> > <br>> > <br>> > <br>> > <br>> > <br>> > > From: jampot@roadrunner.com<br>> > > To: sbasoa@moscow.com<br>> > > Date: Tue, 26 Feb 2008 17:20:30 -0800<br>> > > CC: vision2020@moscow.com<br>> > > Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Narcissist Nader May Run Attention<br>> > > <br>> > > Nothing could be farther from the truth. We have had some very good <br>> > > presidents. J.F. Kennedy, D.D. Eisenhower, H.S. Truman, C. Coolidge, <br>> and<br>> > A. <br>> > > Lincoln for instance. We have also had some truly great presidents as<br>> wel> l. <br>> > > G. Washington, (the best ever bar none) T. Jefferson, J. Madison, and,<br>> of> <br>> > > course, R. W. Reagan.<br>> > > <br>> > > Perhaps you would be more comfortable with a monarchy?<br>> > > <br>> > > g<br>> > > ----- Original Message ----- <br>> > > From: "Steven Basoa" <sbasoa@moscow.com><br>> > > Cc: "Vision 2020" <vision2020@moscow.com><br>> > > Sent: Tuesday, February 26, 2008 3:24 PM<br>> > > Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Narcissist Nader May Run Attention<br>> > > <br>> > > <br>> > > > Yeah, and add those 43 other presidents as well...<br>> > > ><br>> > > ><br>> > > > On Feb 26, 2008, at 12:38 PM, g. crabtree wrote:<br>> > > ><br>> > > > Roger, You left LBJ off of your worst presidents list. An <br>> inadvertent<br>> > > > oversight I'm sure. I think that there is also a strong case to be<br>> > > > made for<br>> > > > Woodrow Wilson and, despite popular sentiment, FDR.<br>> > > ><br>> > > > g<br>> > > > ----- Original Message -----<br>> > > > From: "lfalen" <lfalen@turbonet.com><br>> > > > To: "g. crabtree" <jampot@roadrunner.com>; <vision2020@moscow.com><br>> > > > Sent: Tuesday, February 26, 2008 10:30 AM<br>> > > > Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Narcissist Nader May Run Attention<br>> > > ><br>> > > ><br>> > > >> Gary is right on Obama. Keely is wrong on Bush. Bush is far from<br>> > > >> the best<br>> > > >> president we have had, but he is far from the worst. The bottom tier<br>> > > >> consists of Buchcanan, Pierce, Harding, and Carter. This is the<br>> > > >> consensus<br>> > > >> of most historians. The rankings change with time, but most agree<br>> > > >> these<br>> > > >> are the worst. W. H. Harrisson and Garfield weren'y president long<br>> > > >> enough<br>> > > >> to be evaluated.<br>> > > >> Paul's idea on elections has some merit and it would save the<br>> > > >> expenses of<br>> > > >> a runoff election.<br>> > > >> Roger<br>> > > >><br>> > > >> -----Original message-----<br>> > > >> From: "g. crabtree" jampot@roadrunner.com<br>> > > >> Date: Sat, 23 Feb 2008 15:24:43 -0800<br>> > > >> To: vision2020@moscow.com<br>> > > >> Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Narcissist Nader May Run Attention<br>> > > >><br>> > > >>> With pleasure:<br>> > > >>><br>> > > >>> Estimated 800 Billion in new government spending for starters.<br>> > > >>><br>> > > >>> Massive tax hikes to pay for above. (a 39.6 percent personal<br>> > > >>> income tax,<br>> > > >>> a 52.2 percent combined income and payroll tax, a 28 percent<br>> > > >>> capital-gains tax, a 39.6 percent dividends tax, and a 55 percent<br>> > > >>> death<br>> > > >>> tax, again just for starters. High likelihood of even higher rates<br>> > > >>> for<br>> > > >>> capital gains and death tax)<br>> > > >>><br>> > > >>> Enormous increases in government bureaucracy. (health care,<br>> > > >>> mortgages,<br>> > > >>> education, etc.)<br>> > > >>><br>> > > >>> Weakened military. (zero military or foreign affairs expertise)<br>> > > >>><br>> > > >>> Additional intrusion by the government into the most minute<br>> > > >>> aspects of<br>> > > >>> our daily lives.<br>> > > >>><br>> > > >>> Large increase in illegal immigration. (favors drivers licenses for<br>> > > >>> illegals, weak on border enforcement)<br>> > > >>><br>> > > >>> Disintegration of second amendment rights.<br>> > > >>><br>> > > >>> Erosion of first amendment rights. (fairness doctrine, additional<br>> > > >>> campaign finance reform)<br>> > > >>><br>> > > >>> Will drive more U.S. corporations overseas. (major increases in<br>> > > >>> tax rate<br>> > > >>> and regulation)<br>> > > >>><br>> > > >>> This is just the tip of the iceberg, I could go on. Pretty much<br>> > > >>> all the<br>> > > >>> things that make you all warm and tingly down below are the things<br>> > > >>> that<br>> > > >>> make me pretty much sick to my stomach.<br>> > > >>><br>> > > >>> Would I be correct in assuming that your second paragraph with the<br>> > > >>> multiple snide remarks about GW was included as an example of the<br>> > > >>> sorts<br>> > > >>> of things I should avoid to merit the "extra credit" you spoke of<br>> > > >>> in the<br>> > > >>> first paragraph?<br>> > > >>><br>> > > >>> g<br>> > > >>> ----- Original Message -----<br>> > > >>> From: keely emerinemix<br>> > > >>> To: g. crabtree ; Chasuk ; Vision2020<br>> > > >>> Sent: Friday, February 22, 2008 7:32 PM<br>> > > >>> Subject: RE: [Vision2020] Narcissist Nader May Run Attention<br>> > > >>><br>> > > >>><br>> > > >>><br>> > > >>> Please describe, Gary, why an Obama presidency would be a "horror<br>> > > >>> show." Extra credit if you can do it without being snide.<br>> > > >>><br>> > > >>> Even if not measured against the current occupant we have in the<br>> > > >>> Oval<br>> > > >>> Office, Barack Obama would represent an enormous improvement in<br>> > > >>> brainpower, heart, and backbone, one for which I'll <br>> enthusiastically<br>> > > >>> campaign. Of course the next president will be compared to Bush,<br>> > > >>> which<br>> > > >>> will have the effect of further consigning Bush to the bottom of<br>> > > >>> the heap<br>> > > >>> of history's losers.<br>> > > >>><br>> > > >>> Keely<br>> > > >>><br>> > > >>><br>> > > >>><br>> > > >>><br>> > > >>><br>> > > >>>> From: jampot@roadrunner.com<br>> > > >>>> To: chasuk@gmail.com; vision2020@moscow.com<br>> > > >>>> Date: Fri, 22 Feb 2008 15:46:26 -0800<br>> > > >>>> Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Narcissist Nader May Run Attention<br>> > > >>>><br>> > > >>>> Run Ralph, Run! America needs you. (to help save us from the <br>> horror<br>> > > >>> show<br>> > > >>>> that would be Obama)<br>> > > >>>><br>> > > >>>> g<br>> > > >>>> ----- Original Message -----<br>> > > >>>> From: "Chasuk" <chasuk@gmail.com><br>> > > >>>> To: "Vision2020" <vision2020@moscow.com><br>> > > >>>> Sent: Friday, February 22, 2008 2:01 PM<br>> > > >>>> Subject: [Vision2020] Narcissist Nader May Run Attention<br>> > > >>>><br>> > > >>>><br>> > > >>>>> http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/<br>> > > >>>>><br>> > > >>>>> Ralph Nader could be poised for another third party presidential<br>> > > >>> campaign.<br>> > > >>>>><br>> > > >>>>> The consumer advocate will appear on NBC's "Meet the Press" on<br>> > > >>> Sunday.<br>> > > >>>>> Nader launched his 2004 presidential run on the show.<br>> > > >>>>><br>> > > >>>>> A spokesman for Nader did not immediately return a call seeking<br>> > > >>> comment.<br>> > > >>>>><br>> > > >>>>> Kevin Zeese, who was Nader's spokesman during the 2004 <br>> presidential<br>> > > >>>>> race, but is no longer working for him, said Friday that Nader <br>> has<br>> > > >>>>> been actively talking to "lots of people on all sorts of levels"<br>> > > >>> about<br>> > > >>>>> the possibility of making another run.<br>> > > >>>>><br>> > > >>>>> Zeese said he could only guess what Nader might do, but added:<br>> > > >>>>><br>> > > >>>>> "Obviously, I don't think ("Meet the Press" host) Tim Russert <br>> would<br>> > > >>>>> have him on for no reason."<br>> > > >>>>><br>> > > >>>>> Last month, Nader began an exploratory presidential campaign and<br>> > > >>>>> launched a Web site that promises to fight "corporate greed,<br>> > > >>> corporate<br>> > > >>>>> power, corporate control."<br>> > > >>>>><br>> > > >>>>><br>> ======================> =========================> ========<br>> > > >>>>> List services made available by First Step Internet,<br>> > > >>>>> serving the communities of the Palouse since 1994.<br>> > > >>>>> http://www.fsr.net<br>> > > >>>>> mailto:Vision2020@moscow.com<br>> > > >>>>><br>> ======================> =========================> ========<br>> > > >>>>><br>> > > >>>><br>> > > >>>><br>> > > >>>><br>> ======================> =========================> ========<br>> > > >>>> List services made available by First Step Internet,<br>> > > >>>> serving the communities of the Palouse since 1994.<br>> > > >>>> http://www.fsr.net<br>> > > >>>> mailto:Vision2020@moscow.com<br>> > > >>>><br>> ======================> =========================> ========<br>> > > >>><br>> > > >>><br>> > > >>><br>> ---------------------------------------------------------------------> <br>> > > >>> ---------<br>> > > >>> Connect and share in new ways with Windows Live. 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