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<DIV><FONT face=Arial>I'm fairly sure that what he meant was the there wouldn't
be any different impact on the aquifer between building outside of Pullman vs.
outside of Moscow.</FONT></DIV>
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<A title=privatejf32@hotmail.com href="mailto:privatejf32@hotmail.com">J
Ford</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A title=vision2020@moscow.com
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Sunday, February 10, 2008 11:32
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: [Vision2020] Water and Sewer
Agreements: reply from Walter Steed</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>Walter Steed says (wisely?):<BR><PRE>"Locating by Pullman would have had no impact on water<BR>from our aquifer as it would be drawn from the same<BR>basin."<BR><BR>Em, what part of "the same basin" does he not get? OF COURSE IT WOULD IMPACT US!<BR><BR>If you see somehow that it wouldn't, please enlighten us with your oh-so-great wisdom, Mr. Steed, so that we may <BR>all be on the same page....like as in, "in the same know".<BR><BR>Sheesh!</PRE>J
:]<BR><BR><BR>> Date: Sun, 10 Feb 2008 10:58:44 -0800<BR>> From:
garrettmc@verizon.net<BR>> To: vision2020@moscow.com<BR>> Subject:
[Vision2020] Water and Sewer Agreements: reply from Walter Steed<BR>>
<BR>> I'm pasting Walter Steed's reply to my post yesterday<BR>> (It's a
reply to me, though he thinks I'm "Jason<BR>> Hawkins" the Hawkins
developer guy, as I had put his<BR>> name and phone number near the end of
the message)<BR>> <BR>> Garrett<BR>> <BR>> <BR>> Sun, 10 Feb
2008 09:52:15<BR>> <BR>> Jason, Thank you for your questions.<BR>>
<BR>> We did ask why that particular site and the answer we<BR>> got was
that they could find no land large enough and<BR>> suitable for them to use
in Moscow. I believe they<BR>> wanted to be by Moscow to take advantage of
the larger<BR>> retail presence we have than does Pullman. <BR>>
<BR>> Locating by Pullman would have had no impact on water<BR>> from
our aquifer as it would be drawn from the same<BR>> basin.<BR>> <BR>>
I guess we will just have to disagree regarding the<BR>> impacts on Moscow
businesses. I believe a Lowes, for<BR>> example, would attract shoppers
from outside our area<BR>> who are then likely to do additional shopping
in<BR>> Moscow. I know when we go to Costco in Clarkston or<BR>> to a
specific store in Spokane, we often buy from<BR>> other businesses,
including restaurants, movies and<BR>> gas stations, for which we would not
have made the<BR>> trip.<BR>> <BR>> Again, thank you for your
concerns and inquiries.<BR>> <BR>> Walter<BR>> <BR>> Walter
Steed<BR>> 1345 Ridgeview Drive<BR>> Moscow ID 83843<BR>> Phone
208-883-0123<BR>> Fax 208-882-7184<BR>> wmsteed@aol.com<BR>> <BR>>
<BR>> <BR>> [Vision2020] Water and Sewer Agreements<BR>> Garrett
Clevenger<BR>> <BR>> Hello City,<BR>> <BR>> I'd also like to know,
did anyone ever ask Hawkins why<BR>> they chose the site by our
border?<BR>> <BR>> Obviously, that is presenting direct competition
to<BR>> Moscow, without providing any tax revenue back. Are<BR>> they
planning to put some money into the city coffers<BR>> besides their payment
for water and sewage? <BR>> <BR>> Did anyone ask Hawkins to find a
location closer to<BR>> Pullman, as that would seem more "neighborly" and
less<BR>> an attempt at not only sucking lots of groundwater for<BR>>
from what seems an unnecessary development, but also<BR>> sucking out money
that more than likely would be spent<BR>> in Moscow instead?<BR>>
<BR>> How do the other Moscow malls, and other businesses<BR>> feel
about this agreement?<BR>> <BR>> Were they consulted with and given an
opportunity to<BR>> affect the discussion?<BR>> <BR>> Frankly, I'm
again disappointed by the city actions<BR>> over this. You have agreed to a
huge deal that you<BR>> say was your attempt to control a
uncontrolable<BR>> development, and in the process, have guaranteed
an<BR>> outside-the-state private entity an extraordinary<BR>> amount of
water and sewage services, yet while, from<BR>> what I can tell, they can
still drill a well if for<BR>> some reason they need more water. And you
did this<BR>> without, from what I can tell, allowing for a public<BR>>
discussion before you agreed to your secret terms.<BR>> <BR>> It seems
that if the city has given in to standing up<BR>> for Moscow, perhaps
people should contact the Hawkins<BR>> people? Maybe they would be
reasonable and understand<BR>> our concerns and do the right thing.
Otherwise, it<BR>> seems Moscow is doomed to have growing
competition<BR>> really close to our boarder, and with the
precident<BR>> set, they all are going to want a piece of the<BR>>
"agreement." <BR>> <BR>> Unfortunately, Hawkins Companies LLC is a
pretty big<BR>> developer located throughout the country, so more
than<BR>> likely their bottom line is to make $$$. Thanks to<BR>> the
city, they saved Hawkins quite a lot of hassle and<BR>> dollars. Quite a
gift to give to a major potential<BR>> competitor...<BR>> <BR>> Jason
Hawkins<BR>> 208 376 8522<BR>> <BR>>
http://www.hawkinscompanies.com/contact.htm<BR>> <BR>>
Sincerely,<BR>> <BR>> Garrett Clevenger<BR>> <BR>> <BR>> ---
Saundra Lund <sslund_2007 at verizon.net> wrote:<BR>> <BR>> >
In part, Garrett wrote:<BR>> > "Does anyone know if Moscow has similar
agreements<BR>> > with other private<BR>> > parties guaranteeing
them water and sewer?"<BR>> > <BR>> > Thanks, Garrett, for asking
the question because<BR>> > it's something I've been<BR>> >
wondering as well. My limited understanding from<BR>> > watching
previous city<BR>> > councils is that it seems for property
*outside*<BR>> > Moscow city limits to be<BR>> > able to get City
of Moscow water & sewer services,<BR>> > they generally have to
be<BR>> > annexed into city limits. However comments made by<BR>>
> some have made me wonder<BR>> > if perhaps I've misunderstood
previous requests from<BR>> > those outside city<BR>> > limits to
be served by city water & sewer?<BR>> > <BR>> > Does anyone
know how many water and/or sewer<BR>> > customers outside city
limits<BR>> > Moscow has and how long the City has accommodated<BR>>
> such requests?<BR>> > <BR>> > And, since I got no response to
my earlier question<BR>> > (given the breadth of<BR>> > varied
knowledge of Visionaries, I thought this<BR>> > would be a good place
to<BR>> > ask, but maybe not), I'm going to ask again: can<BR>> >
someone please tell me<BR>> > what effect the City of Moscow supplying
water to<BR>> > the Hawkins development<BR>> > will have on our
ability to meet the voluntary<BR>> > pumping limits in the
Ground<BR>> > Water Management Plan? IIRC, we've only recently<BR>>
> managed to meet the 1%<BR>> > annual increase limit and we were
very close to the<BR>> > top of the 125% ceiling.<BR>> > <BR>>
> <BR>> > TIA,<BR>> > Saundra Lund<BR>> > Moscow,
ID<BR>> > <BR>> > The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil
is<BR>> > for good people to do<BR>> > nothing.<BR>> > ~
Edmund Burke<BR>> <BR>>
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