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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Mr. London asks:</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>"You have mentioned that you work in a key/lock
shop. What if a giant <BR>megacorporate key/lock shop opens in the new
Hawkins Sprawl-Mall."</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>I would do my best to compete by providing better
service through my more intimate knowledge of the local market. When Wal-Mart
moved to the area they stocked and sold many of the same products we
do, they cut keys as do we, and all at a slightly lower price. We do
it better and we're still here. Should megacorporate key/lock shop provide
better products and services at a better price then I can, I go out of business
as you would expect. Whining to be protected from competition never works (and
it's undignified) This is the nature of free markets and its been this way
for quite a while now.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>The City of Moscow "gives away" water to all
of my competitors. Wal-Mart, Tri-State, Moscow Building Supply, Spence Hardware,
JJ bldg. Supply, etc. all take advantage of the cities largess. In what way
does this contribute to my eventual downfall? Since all of
these fine business's are also my customers, perhaps the city is
really doing me a favor?</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>g</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>----- Original Message ----- </FONT>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>From: "Bill London" <</FONT><A
href="mailto:london@moscow.com"><FONT face=Arial
size=2>london@moscow.com</FONT></A><FONT face=Arial size=2>></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>To: "g. crabtree" <</FONT><A
href="mailto:jampot@roadrunner.com"><FONT face=Arial
size=2>jampot@roadrunner.com</FONT></A><FONT face=Arial size=2>>;
<</FONT><A href="mailto:rhayes@turbonet.com"><FONT face=Arial
size=2>rhayes@turbonet.com</FONT></A><FONT face=Arial size=2>>; <</FONT><A
href="mailto:vision2020@moscow.com"><FONT face=Arial
size=2>vision2020@moscow.com</FONT></A><FONT face=Arial size=2>>; "Tom
Hansen" <</FONT><A href="mailto:thansen@moscow.com"><FONT face=Arial
size=2>thansen@moscow.com</FONT></A><FONT face=Arial size=2>></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Sent: Thursday, February 07, 2008 4:17
PM</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Hawkins Mall and
Moscow</FONT></DIV></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial><BR><FONT size=2></FONT></FONT></DIV><FONT face=Arial
size=2>> G-<BR>> Let's get specific here in response ....<BR>> <BR>>
You have mentioned that you work in a key/lock shop. What if a giant
<BR>> megacorporate key/lock shop opens in the new Hawkins Sprawl-Mall.
What if <BR>> that new business takes away your customer base and your
business <BR>> closes?????????????<BR>> <BR>> Given that scenario,
perhaps you can understand why Moscow water (as in <BR>> water pumped through
Moscow tax dollars) should not be given away to a mall <BR>> in
Washington. It is one thing if your business dies through direct <BR>>
competition to another business in Moscow. However, in this situation,
<BR>> Moscow is enabling not only Washington to collect property/sales taxes,
but <BR>> enables the loss of those same taxes here in Moscow when your
business <BR>> folds. Moscow loses both ways.<BR>> <BR>> The
water sold to this sprawl mall is (as agreed in the secret deal) priced <BR>>
at customary rates. No extra cash for the negative economic impact of the
<BR>> mall being in Washington. No extra cash for the future upgrades
needed to <BR>> water, sewage and other Moscow facilities. Moscow
taxpayers are stuck with <BR>> the bill.<BR>> <BR>> We got took in this
secret deal<BR>> BL<BR>> <BR>> <BR>> <BR>> <BR>> <BR>>
----- Original Message ----- <BR>> From: "g. crabtree" <</FONT><A
href="mailto:jampot@roadrunner.com"><FONT face=Arial
size=2>jampot@roadrunner.com</FONT></A><FONT face=Arial size=2>><BR>> To:
"Bill London" <</FONT><A href="mailto:london@moscow.com"><FONT face=Arial
size=2>london@moscow.com</FONT></A><FONT face=Arial size=2>>; <</FONT><A
href="mailto:rhayes@turbonet.com"><FONT face=Arial
size=2>rhayes@turbonet.com</FONT></A><FONT face=Arial size=2>>; <BR>>
<</FONT><A href="mailto:vision2020@moscow.com"><FONT face=Arial
size=2>vision2020@moscow.com</FONT></A><FONT face=Arial size=2>>; "Tom
Hansen" <</FONT><A href="mailto:thansen@moscow.com"><FONT face=Arial
size=2>thansen@moscow.com</FONT></A><FONT face=Arial size=2>><BR>> Sent:
Thursday, February 07, 2008 3:07 PM<BR>> Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Hawkins
Mall and Moscow<BR>> <BR>> <BR>>> And what is it that makes "Moscow
water" any different from Pullman water <BR>>> or Yakima water or Richland
water or Pendleton water or water pumped in <BR>>> The Dalles? The water
at all of these locations comes from the same <BR>>> source. The same
source that Hawkins would be tapping in any instance <BR>>> whether Moscow
agreed to sell them water or they decided to acquire their <BR>>> own
water right and pump it for themselves. No matter how you look at it
<BR>>> "give-away" is just plain in error.<BR>>><BR>>>
g<BR>>> ----- Original Message ----- <BR>>> From: "Bill London"
<</FONT><A href="mailto:london@moscow.com"><FONT face=Arial
size=2>london@moscow.com</FONT></A><FONT face=Arial size=2>><BR>>> To:
"g. crabtree" <</FONT><A href="mailto:jampot@roadrunner.com"><FONT face=Arial
size=2>jampot@roadrunner.com</FONT></A><FONT face=Arial size=2>>;
<</FONT><A href="mailto:rhayes@turbonet.com"><FONT face=Arial
size=2>rhayes@turbonet.com</FONT></A><FONT face=Arial size=2>>; <BR>>>
<</FONT><A href="mailto:vision2020@moscow.com"><FONT face=Arial
size=2>vision2020@moscow.com</FONT></A><FONT face=Arial size=2>>; "Tom
Hansen" <</FONT><A href="mailto:thansen@moscow.com"><FONT face=Arial
size=2>thansen@moscow.com</FONT></A><FONT face=Arial size=2>><BR>>>
Sent: Thursday, February 07, 2008 8:41 AM<BR>>> Subject: Re: [Vision2020]
Hawkins Mall and Moscow<BR>>><BR>>><BR>>>> The idea that
Moscow will have some control of the Hawkins mall is <BR>>>>
illusory.<BR>>>> The deal, as I understand it, only sets maximum usage
that Hawkins would <BR>>>> have targeted anyway-- and far worse,
requires Moscow water to be sold at <BR>>>> same rate as city
customers.<BR>>>> The Hawkins deal was a give-away.<BR>>>>
BL<BR>>>><BR>>>><BR>>>><BR>>>><BR>>>>
----- Original Message ----- <BR>>>> From: "g. crabtree" <</FONT><A
href="mailto:jampot@roadrunner.com"><FONT face=Arial
size=2>jampot@roadrunner.com</FONT></A><FONT face=Arial
size=2>><BR>>>> To: <</FONT><A
href="mailto:london@moscow.com"><FONT face=Arial
size=2>london@moscow.com</FONT></A><FONT face=Arial size=2>>; <</FONT><A
href="mailto:rhayes@turbonet.com"><FONT face=Arial
size=2>rhayes@turbonet.com</FONT></A><FONT face=Arial size=2>>; <</FONT><A
href="mailto:vision2020@moscow.com"><FONT face=Arial
size=2>vision2020@moscow.com</FONT></A><FONT face=Arial size=2>>;
<BR>>>> "Tom Hansen" <</FONT><A
href="mailto:thansen@moscow.com"><FONT face=Arial
size=2>thansen@moscow.com</FONT></A><FONT face=Arial size=2>><BR>>>>
Sent: Wednesday, February 06, 2008 5:38 PM<BR>>>> Subject: Re:
[Vision2020] Hawkins Mall and
Moscow<BR>>>><BR>>>><BR>>>>> I'm not sure what all
the whining is about. What is the benefit of the <BR>>>>> City of
Moscow forking out thousands of dollars to fight a losing battle
<BR>>>>> with Hawkins only to have them acquire a water right that
gives Moscow <BR>>>>> absolutely no control or potential revenue?
Without the signing of this <BR>>>>> agreement Hawkins would have
been able to drill a well and draw that <BR>>>>> water out of the
same aquifer we get ours out of without the City <BR>>>>> having any
say. This way, we have some control since we are the <BR>>>>>
provider. Not only that, we should be able to charge them for services
<BR>>>>> at a price significantly higher than what a Moscow business
would be <BR>>>>> paying. The silly assertion that "we Moscow
taxpayers are financing <BR>>>>> sprawl in Whitman County" is
without merit. Whitman county will be <BR>>>>> financing the
infrastructure improvements with 9.1 million dollars worth <BR>>>>>
of bonds and fire protection will come via a new rural fire station
<BR>>>>> provided by Hawkins. Instead of grumbling about recalls I
think we <BR>>>>> should be saying thanks guys, job well
done!<BR>>>>><BR>>>>>
g<BR>>>>><BR>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
<BR>>>>> From: "Tom Hansen" <</FONT><A
href="mailto:thansen@moscow.com"><FONT face=Arial
size=2>thansen@moscow.com</FONT></A><FONT face=Arial
size=2>><BR>>>>> To: <</FONT><A
href="mailto:london@moscow.com"><FONT face=Arial
size=2>london@moscow.com</FONT></A><FONT face=Arial size=2>>; <</FONT><A
href="mailto:rhayes@turbonet.com"><FONT face=Arial
size=2>rhayes@turbonet.com</FONT></A><FONT face=Arial size=2>>; <</FONT><A
href="mailto:vision2020@moscow.com"><FONT face=Arial
size=2>vision2020@moscow.com</FONT></A><FONT face=Arial
size=2>><BR>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, February 06, 2008 12:18
PM<BR>>>>> Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Hawkins Mall and
Moscow<BR>>>>><BR>>>>><BR>>>>>>
Visionaires -<BR>>>>>><BR>>>>>> Crank up your
speakers and watch/listen to Wayne Krauss . .
.<BR>>>>>><BR>>>>>> "Behind Closed
Doors"<BR>>>>>><BR>>>>>> </FONT><A
href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uziWdh9MfjI"><FONT face=Arial
size=2>http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uziWdh9MfjI</FONT></A><BR><FONT face=Arial
size=2>>>>>><BR>>>>>> Tom
Hansen<BR>>>>>> Moscow, Idaho<BR>>>>>>>
R-<BR>>>>>>> I agree with your concern and your
indignation.<BR>>>>>>> I thought these GMA council candidates
were supposed to bring "common<BR>>>>>>
sense"<BR>>>>>>> to Moscow.<BR>>>>>>> Now we
Moscow taxpayers are financing sprawl in Whitman
County.<BR>>>>>>> Disgusting<BR>>>>>>>
BL<BR>>>>>>><BR>>>>>>><BR>>>>>>><BR>>>>>>>
----- Original Message ----- <BR>>>>>>> From: "roger hayes"
<</FONT><A href="mailto:rhayes@turbonet.com"><FONT face=Arial
size=2>rhayes@turbonet.com</FONT></A><FONT face=Arial
size=2>><BR>>>>>>> To: <</FONT><A
href="mailto:vision2020@moscow.com"><FONT face=Arial
size=2>vision2020@moscow.com</FONT></A><FONT face=Arial
size=2>><BR>>>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, February 06, 2008 7:25
AM<BR>>>>>>> Subject: [Vision2020] Hawkins Mall and
Moscow<BR>>>>>>><BR>>>>>>><BR>>>>>>>
> Dear Moscow taxpayers and business owners,<BR>>>>>>>
><BR>>>>>>> > It appears the city of Moscow will provide
water, sewer, and most<BR>>>>>>> > likely police and fire
services to the proposed Hawkins development<BR>>>>>>> >
which is slated to be built just across the border in Washington.
<BR>>>>>>> > Who<BR>>>>>>> > will
benefit by this? Hawkins, regional developers and Whitman
<BR>>>>>>> > county.<BR>>>>>>> > The
losers will be Moscow businesses and Moscow
taxpayers.<BR>>>>>>> > If this plan comes to fruition, we
will be exporting our tax dollars <BR>>>>>>> >
to<BR>>>>>>> > Whitman county, shipping the profits of
local business to another<BR>>>>>>> > state, while reducing
Moscow's tax base, AND increasing the demand <BR>>>>>>> >
on<BR>>>>>>> > our city's infrastructure. How much money
will Hawkins agree to pay<BR>>>>>>> > Moscow to mitigate
the destructive consequences this megamall will <BR>>>>>>>
> have<BR>>>>>>> > on our
city?<BR>>>>>>> > With the exception of Tom Lamar, the city
council voted against the<BR>>>>>>> > best interests of our
city and its citizens. Walter Steed said he <BR>>>>>>> >
could<BR>>>>>>> > not comment on the negotiations because
they were held in "secret." <BR>>>>>>> >
Why<BR>>>>>>> > the secrecy? Steed also said "this will not
make some people happy."<BR>>>>>>> > Well, when you make a
deal which is destructive to the people who<BR>>>>>>> >
elected you, it is bound to make them unhappy.<BR>>>>>>> >
We need to consider a RECALL!<BR>>>>>>>
><BR>>>>>>> > Roger Hayes<BR>>>>>>>
> Moscow!<BR>>>>>>> ><BR>>>>>>> >
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