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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>So what? The water we sell them is from a common
pool that supplies business's in Idaho, Washington, and Oregon. What's your
point?</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>g</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV>
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV>
<DIV
style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: black"><B>From:</B>
<A title=Bookpeople@Moscow.com href="mailto:Bookpeople@Moscow.com">Bookpeople
of Moscow</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A title=jampot@roadrunner.com
href="mailto:jampot@roadrunner.com">g. crabtree</A> ; <A
title=london@moscow.com href="mailto:london@moscow.com">Bill London</A> ; <A
title=rhayes@turbonet.com
href="mailto:rhayes@turbonet.com">rhayes@turbonet.com</A> ; <A
title=vision2020@moscow.com
href="mailto:vision2020@moscow.com">vision2020@moscow.com</A> ; <A
title=thansen@moscow.com href="mailto:thansen@moscow.com">Tom Hansen</A>
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Thursday, February 07, 2008 6:09
PM</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: [Vision2020] Hawkins Mall
and Moscow</DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>The stores you mention are in IDAHO, not
Washington!</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV>
<DIV
style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: black"><B>From:</B>
<A title=jampot@roadrunner.com href="mailto:jampot@roadrunner.com">g.
crabtree</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A title=london@moscow.com
href="mailto:london@moscow.com">Bill London</A> ; <A
title=rhayes@turbonet.com
href="mailto:rhayes@turbonet.com">rhayes@turbonet.com</A> ; <A
title=vision2020@moscow.com
href="mailto:vision2020@moscow.com">vision2020@moscow.com</A> ; <A
title=thansen@moscow.com href="mailto:thansen@moscow.com">Tom Hansen</A>
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Thursday, February 07, 2008 6:02
PM</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: [Vision2020] Hawkins Mall
and Moscow</DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Mr. London asks:</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>"You have mentioned that you work in a key/lock
shop. What if a giant <BR>megacorporate key/lock shop opens in the new
Hawkins Sprawl-Mall."</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>I would do my best to compete by providing
better service through my more intimate knowledge of the local market. When
Wal-Mart moved to the area they stocked and sold many of the same products
we do, they cut keys as do we, and all at a slightly lower
price. We do it better and we're still here. Should megacorporate
key/lock shop provide better products and services at a better price then I
can, I go out of business as you would expect. Whining to be protected from
competition never works (and it's undignified) This is the nature of
free markets and its been this way for quite a while now.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>The City of Moscow "gives away" water to
all of my competitors. Wal-Mart, Tri-State, Moscow Building Supply, Spence
Hardware, JJ bldg. Supply, etc. all take advantage of the cities
largess. In what way does this contribute to my eventual downfall? Since all
of these fine business's are also my customers, perhaps the
city is really doing me a favor?</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>g</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>----- Original Message ----- </FONT>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>From: "Bill London" <</FONT><A
href="mailto:london@moscow.com"><FONT face=Arial
size=2>london@moscow.com</FONT></A><FONT face=Arial size=2>></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>To: "g. crabtree" <</FONT><A
href="mailto:jampot@roadrunner.com"><FONT face=Arial
size=2>jampot@roadrunner.com</FONT></A><FONT face=Arial size=2>>;
<</FONT><A href="mailto:rhayes@turbonet.com"><FONT face=Arial
size=2>rhayes@turbonet.com</FONT></A><FONT face=Arial size=2>>;
<</FONT><A href="mailto:vision2020@moscow.com"><FONT face=Arial
size=2>vision2020@moscow.com</FONT></A><FONT face=Arial size=2>>; "Tom
Hansen" <</FONT><A href="mailto:thansen@moscow.com"><FONT face=Arial
size=2>thansen@moscow.com</FONT></A><FONT face=Arial
size=2>></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Sent: Thursday, February 07, 2008 4:17
PM</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Hawkins Mall and
Moscow</FONT></DIV></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial><BR><FONT size=2></FONT></FONT></DIV><FONT face=Arial
size=2>> G-<BR>> Let's get specific here in response ....<BR>>
<BR>> You have mentioned that you work in a key/lock shop. What if
a giant <BR>> megacorporate key/lock shop opens in the new Hawkins
Sprawl-Mall. What if <BR>> that new business takes away your
customer base and your business <BR>> closes?????????????<BR>>
<BR>> Given that scenario, perhaps you can understand why Moscow water
(as in <BR>> water pumped through Moscow tax dollars) should not be given
away to a mall <BR>> in Washington. It is one thing if your
business dies through direct <BR>> competition to another business in
Moscow. However, in this situation, <BR>> Moscow is enabling not
only Washington to collect property/sales taxes, but <BR>> enables the
loss of those same taxes here in Moscow when your business <BR>>
folds. Moscow loses both ways.<BR>> <BR>> The water sold to this
sprawl mall is (as agreed in the secret deal) priced <BR>> at customary
rates. No extra cash for the negative economic impact of the <BR>>
mall being in Washington. No extra cash for the future upgrades needed
to <BR>> water, sewage and other Moscow facilities. Moscow
taxpayers are stuck with <BR>> the bill.<BR>> <BR>> We got took in
this secret deal<BR>> BL<BR>> <BR>> <BR>> <BR>> <BR>>
<BR>> ----- Original Message ----- <BR>> From: "g. crabtree"
<</FONT><A href="mailto:jampot@roadrunner.com"><FONT face=Arial
size=2>jampot@roadrunner.com</FONT></A><FONT face=Arial size=2>><BR>>
To: "Bill London" <</FONT><A href="mailto:london@moscow.com"><FONT
face=Arial size=2>london@moscow.com</FONT></A><FONT face=Arial size=2>>;
<</FONT><A href="mailto:rhayes@turbonet.com"><FONT face=Arial
size=2>rhayes@turbonet.com</FONT></A><FONT face=Arial size=2>>; <BR>>
<</FONT><A href="mailto:vision2020@moscow.com"><FONT face=Arial
size=2>vision2020@moscow.com</FONT></A><FONT face=Arial size=2>>; "Tom
Hansen" <</FONT><A href="mailto:thansen@moscow.com"><FONT face=Arial
size=2>thansen@moscow.com</FONT></A><FONT face=Arial size=2>><BR>>
Sent: Thursday, February 07, 2008 3:07 PM<BR>> Subject: Re: [Vision2020]
Hawkins Mall and Moscow<BR>> <BR>> <BR>>> And what is it that
makes "Moscow water" any different from Pullman water <BR>>> or Yakima
water or Richland water or Pendleton water or water pumped in <BR>>>
The Dalles? The water at all of these locations comes from the same
<BR>>> source. The same source that Hawkins would be tapping in any
instance <BR>>> whether Moscow agreed to sell them water or they
decided to acquire their <BR>>> own water right and pump it for
themselves. No matter how you look at it <BR>>> "give-away" is just
plain in error.<BR>>><BR>>> g<BR>>> ----- Original Message
----- <BR>>> From: "Bill London" <</FONT><A
href="mailto:london@moscow.com"><FONT face=Arial
size=2>london@moscow.com</FONT></A><FONT face=Arial size=2>><BR>>>
To: "g. crabtree" <</FONT><A href="mailto:jampot@roadrunner.com"><FONT
face=Arial size=2>jampot@roadrunner.com</FONT></A><FONT face=Arial
size=2>>; <</FONT><A href="mailto:rhayes@turbonet.com"><FONT
face=Arial size=2>rhayes@turbonet.com</FONT></A><FONT face=Arial
size=2>>; <BR>>> <</FONT><A
href="mailto:vision2020@moscow.com"><FONT face=Arial
size=2>vision2020@moscow.com</FONT></A><FONT face=Arial size=2>>; "Tom
Hansen" <</FONT><A href="mailto:thansen@moscow.com"><FONT face=Arial
size=2>thansen@moscow.com</FONT></A><FONT face=Arial size=2>><BR>>>
Sent: Thursday, February 07, 2008 8:41 AM<BR>>> Subject: Re:
[Vision2020] Hawkins Mall and Moscow<BR>>><BR>>><BR>>>>
The idea that Moscow will have some control of the Hawkins mall is
<BR>>>> illusory.<BR>>>> The deal, as I understand it,
only sets maximum usage that Hawkins would <BR>>>> have targeted
anyway-- and far worse, requires Moscow water to be sold at <BR>>>>
same rate as city customers.<BR>>>> The Hawkins deal was a
give-away.<BR>>>>
BL<BR>>>><BR>>>><BR>>>><BR>>>><BR>>>>
----- Original Message ----- <BR>>>> From: "g. crabtree"
<</FONT><A href="mailto:jampot@roadrunner.com"><FONT face=Arial
size=2>jampot@roadrunner.com</FONT></A><FONT face=Arial
size=2>><BR>>>> To: <</FONT><A
href="mailto:london@moscow.com"><FONT face=Arial
size=2>london@moscow.com</FONT></A><FONT face=Arial size=2>>;
<</FONT><A href="mailto:rhayes@turbonet.com"><FONT face=Arial
size=2>rhayes@turbonet.com</FONT></A><FONT face=Arial size=2>>;
<</FONT><A href="mailto:vision2020@moscow.com"><FONT face=Arial
size=2>vision2020@moscow.com</FONT></A><FONT face=Arial size=2>>;
<BR>>>> "Tom Hansen" <</FONT><A
href="mailto:thansen@moscow.com"><FONT face=Arial
size=2>thansen@moscow.com</FONT></A><FONT face=Arial
size=2>><BR>>>> Sent: Wednesday, February 06, 2008 5:38
PM<BR>>>> Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Hawkins Mall and
Moscow<BR>>>><BR>>>><BR>>>>> I'm not sure what
all the whining is about. What is the benefit of the <BR>>>>>
City of Moscow forking out thousands of dollars to fight a losing battle
<BR>>>>> with Hawkins only to have them acquire a water right
that gives Moscow <BR>>>>> absolutely no control or potential
revenue? Without the signing of this <BR>>>>> agreement Hawkins
would have been able to drill a well and draw that <BR>>>>>
water out of the same aquifer we get ours out of without the City
<BR>>>>> having any say. This way, we have some control
since we are the <BR>>>>> provider. Not only that, we
should be able to charge them for services <BR>>>>> at a price
significantly higher than what a Moscow business would be
<BR>>>>> paying. The silly assertion that "we Moscow taxpayers
are financing <BR>>>>> sprawl in Whitman County" is without
merit. Whitman county will be <BR>>>>> financing the
infrastructure improvements with 9.1 million dollars worth
<BR>>>>> of bonds and fire protection will come via a new rural
fire station <BR>>>>> provided by Hawkins. Instead of grumbling
about recalls I think we <BR>>>>> should be saying thanks guys,
job well done!<BR>>>>><BR>>>>>
g<BR>>>>><BR>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
<BR>>>>> From: "Tom Hansen" <</FONT><A
href="mailto:thansen@moscow.com"><FONT face=Arial
size=2>thansen@moscow.com</FONT></A><FONT face=Arial
size=2>><BR>>>>> To: <</FONT><A
href="mailto:london@moscow.com"><FONT face=Arial
size=2>london@moscow.com</FONT></A><FONT face=Arial size=2>>;
<</FONT><A href="mailto:rhayes@turbonet.com"><FONT face=Arial
size=2>rhayes@turbonet.com</FONT></A><FONT face=Arial size=2>>;
<</FONT><A href="mailto:vision2020@moscow.com"><FONT face=Arial
size=2>vision2020@moscow.com</FONT></A><FONT face=Arial
size=2>><BR>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, February 06, 2008 12:18
PM<BR>>>>> Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Hawkins Mall and
Moscow<BR>>>>><BR>>>>><BR>>>>>>
Visionaires -<BR>>>>>><BR>>>>>> Crank up your
speakers and watch/listen to Wayne Krauss . .
.<BR>>>>>><BR>>>>>> "Behind Closed
Doors"<BR>>>>>><BR>>>>>> </FONT><A
href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uziWdh9MfjI"><FONT face=Arial
size=2>http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uziWdh9MfjI</FONT></A><BR><FONT
face=Arial size=2>>>>>><BR>>>>>> Tom
Hansen<BR>>>>>> Moscow, Idaho<BR>>>>>>>
R-<BR>>>>>>> I agree with your concern and your
indignation.<BR>>>>>>> I thought these GMA council
candidates were supposed to bring "common<BR>>>>>>
sense"<BR>>>>>>> to Moscow.<BR>>>>>>>
Now we Moscow taxpayers are financing sprawl in Whitman
County.<BR>>>>>>> Disgusting<BR>>>>>>>
BL<BR>>>>>>><BR>>>>>>><BR>>>>>>><BR>>>>>>>
----- Original Message ----- <BR>>>>>>> From: "roger
hayes" <</FONT><A href="mailto:rhayes@turbonet.com"><FONT face=Arial
size=2>rhayes@turbonet.com</FONT></A><FONT face=Arial
size=2>><BR>>>>>>> To: <</FONT><A
href="mailto:vision2020@moscow.com"><FONT face=Arial
size=2>vision2020@moscow.com</FONT></A><FONT face=Arial
size=2>><BR>>>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, February 06, 2008
7:25 AM<BR>>>>>>> Subject: [Vision2020] Hawkins Mall and
Moscow<BR>>>>>>><BR>>>>>>><BR>>>>>>>
> Dear Moscow taxpayers and business owners,<BR>>>>>>>
><BR>>>>>>> > It appears the city of Moscow will
provide water, sewer, and most<BR>>>>>>> > likely
police and fire services to the proposed Hawkins
development<BR>>>>>>> > which is slated to be built
just across the border in Washington. <BR>>>>>>> >
Who<BR>>>>>>> > will benefit by this? Hawkins, regional
developers and Whitman <BR>>>>>>> >
county.<BR>>>>>>> > The losers will be Moscow
businesses and Moscow taxpayers.<BR>>>>>>> > If this
plan comes to fruition, we will be exporting our tax dollars
<BR>>>>>>> > to<BR>>>>>>> >
Whitman county, shipping the profits of local business to
another<BR>>>>>>> > state, while reducing Moscow's tax
base, AND increasing the demand <BR>>>>>>> >
on<BR>>>>>>> > our city's infrastructure. How much
money will Hawkins agree to pay<BR>>>>>>> > Moscow to
mitigate the destructive consequences this megamall will
<BR>>>>>>> > have<BR>>>>>>> > on
our city?<BR>>>>>>> > With the exception of Tom Lamar,
the city council voted against the<BR>>>>>>> > best
interests of our city and its citizens. Walter Steed said he
<BR>>>>>>> > could<BR>>>>>>> > not
comment on the negotiations because they were held in "secret."
<BR>>>>>>> > Why<BR>>>>>>> > the
secrecy? Steed also said "this will not make some people
happy."<BR>>>>>>> > Well, when you make a deal which is
destructive to the people who<BR>>>>>>> > elected you,
it is bound to make them unhappy.<BR>>>>>>> > We need
to consider a RECALL!<BR>>>>>>>
><BR>>>>>>> > Roger
Hayes<BR>>>>>>> > Moscow!<BR>>>>>>>
><BR>>>>>>> >
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