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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Personally, I would have no problem if they were to
pay the exact same amount as a within the city client, as much as I doubt this
will be the case. How does Moscow win by spending many thousands of dollars
to fight Hawkins's water right only to lose, have them drill their own well and
draw and utilized the exact same water we could have otherwise sold them? People
seem to forget that Moscow is hard up against the border and the corridor is
totally the domain of Whitman county. An entity that has shown itself to be
quite accepting of the idea of commercial development between Pullman and
Moscow. We have NO leverage. If we want to have any effective input at all
it will be in our best interest to discuss and negotiate rather than to adopt an
obstructionist attitude and waste precious tax dollars on Don Quixote style
litigation.</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>----- Original Message ----- </FONT>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>From: "Saundra Lund" <</FONT><A
href="mailto:sslund_2007@verizon.net"><FONT face=Arial
size=2>sslund_2007@verizon.net</FONT></A><FONT face=Arial
size=2>></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>To: "'g. crabtree'" <</FONT><A
href="mailto:jampot@roadrunner.com"><FONT face=Arial
size=2>jampot@roadrunner.com</FONT></A><FONT face=Arial size=2>>;
<</FONT><A href="mailto:london@moscow.com"><FONT face=Arial
size=2>london@moscow.com</FONT></A><FONT face=Arial size=2>>; <</FONT><A
href="mailto:rhayes@turbonet.com"><FONT face=Arial
size=2>rhayes@turbonet.com</FONT></A><FONT face=Arial size=2>>; <</FONT><A
href="mailto:vision2020@moscow.com"><FONT face=Arial
size=2>vision2020@moscow.com</FONT></A><FONT face=Arial size=2>>; "'Tom
Hansen'" <</FONT><A href="mailto:thansen@moscow.com"><FONT face=Arial
size=2>thansen@moscow.com</FONT></A><FONT face=Arial size=2>></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Sent: Wednesday, February 06, 2008 7:48
PM</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Subject: RE: [Vision2020] Hawkins Mall and
Moscow</FONT></DIV></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial><BR><FONT size=2></FONT></FONT></DIV><FONT face=Arial
size=2>In part, Gary Crabtree wrote:<BR>"Not only that, we should be able to
charge them for services at a price<BR>significantly higher than what a Moscow
business would be paying."<BR><BR>Have you read the agreement? I think
maybe you've not or else you'd be<BR>aware that the following is part of the
Settlement Agreement:<BR><BR>"Cost of Service. The City agrees that the
cost for delivery of water<BR>utility service provided to the Stateline Project
under this Settlement<BR>Agreement shall be fair and reasonable and consistent
with rates and charges<BR>set for similarly situated customers of the
City. This paragraph is not<BR>intended to constrain the City's authority
to establish appropriate fee<BR>categories."<BR><BR>Thus, it doesn't sound to me
like Hawkins Mall will be paying significantly<BR>higher prices for water (or
sewer) than Moscow businesses.<BR><BR>I'm sure there are lots of people who know
a lot more about this than I, but<BR>it seems to me a reasonable case could be
made for charging Hawkins<BR>significantly more than Moscow businesses because
the Hawkins development is<BR>unique in many respects and thus the City doesn't
have any "similarly<BR>situated customers."<BR><BR>Is that something our Council
will insist on? What if Hawkins balks? Given<BR>the ease with which
our council gave away the store and any leverage it had,<BR>I'm afraid I don't
have much confidence they will Do the Right Thing.<BR><BR>You're more optimistic
than I can be, particularly given the choice the City<BR>made to allow this
dirty little piece of business to be done out of public<BR>scrutiny, and I
really do hope your optimism isn't misplaced.<BR><BR>After reading the Agreement
and finding that Hawkins will pay no more than<BR>"similarly situated
customers," what's your opinion on the "deal" our<BR>Council negotiated?
Or, do you (or other Visionaries) have a
different<BR>understanding/interpretation of the language in the
Agreement?<BR><BR><BR>Saundra Lund<BR>Moscow, ID<BR><BR>The only thing necessary
for the triumph of evil is for good people to do<BR>nothing.<BR>~ Edmund
Burke<BR><BR>***** Original material contained herein is Copyright 2008 through
life plus<BR>70 years, Saundra Lund. Do not copy, forward, excerpt, or reproduce
outside<BR>the Vision 2020 forum without the express written permission of
the<BR>author.*****<BR><BR><BR>-----Original Message-----<BR>From: </FONT><A
href="mailto:vision2020-bounces@moscow.com"><FONT face=Arial
size=2>vision2020-bounces@moscow.com</FONT></A><FONT face=Arial size=2>
[mailto:vision2020-bounces@moscow.com]<BR>On Behalf Of g. crabtree<BR>Sent:
Wednesday, February 06, 2008 5:39 PM<BR>To: </FONT><A
href="mailto:london@moscow.com"><FONT face=Arial
size=2>london@moscow.com</FONT></A><FONT face=Arial size=2>; </FONT><A
href="mailto:rhayes@turbonet.com"><FONT face=Arial
size=2>rhayes@turbonet.com</FONT></A><FONT face=Arial size=2>; </FONT><A
href="mailto:vision2020@moscow.com"><FONT face=Arial
size=2>vision2020@moscow.com</FONT></A><FONT face=Arial size=2>;
Tom<BR>Hansen<BR>Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Hawkins Mall and Moscow<BR><BR>I'm
not sure what all the whining is about. What is the benefit of the City <BR>of
Moscow forking out thousands of dollars to fight a losing battle with
<BR>Hawkins only to have them acquire a water right that gives Moscow
absolutely<BR><BR>no control or potential revenue? Without the signing of this
agreement <BR>Hawkins would have been able to drill a well and draw that water
out of the <BR>same aquifer we get ours out of without the City having any
say. This way,<BR><BR>we have some control since we are the
provider. Not only that, we should be<BR><BR>able to charge them for
services at a price significantly higher than what a<BR><BR>Moscow business
would be paying. The silly assertion that "we Moscow <BR>taxpayers are financing
sprawl in Whitman County" is without merit. Whitman <BR>county will be financing
the infrastructure improvements with 9.1 million <BR>dollars worth of bonds and
fire protection will come via a new rural fire <BR>station provided by Hawkins.
Instead of grumbling about recalls I think we <BR>should be saying thanks guys,
job well done!<BR><BR>g<BR><BR>----- Original Message ----- <BR>From: "Tom
Hansen" <</FONT><A href="mailto:thansen@moscow.com"><FONT face=Arial
size=2>thansen@moscow.com</FONT></A><FONT face=Arial size=2>><BR>To:
<</FONT><A href="mailto:london@moscow.com"><FONT face=Arial
size=2>london@moscow.com</FONT></A><FONT face=Arial size=2>>; <</FONT><A
href="mailto:rhayes@turbonet.com"><FONT face=Arial
size=2>rhayes@turbonet.com</FONT></A><FONT face=Arial size=2>>; <</FONT><A
href="mailto:vision2020@moscow.com"><FONT face=Arial
size=2>vision2020@moscow.com</FONT></A><FONT face=Arial size=2>><BR>Sent:
Wednesday, February 06, 2008 12:18 PM<BR>Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Hawkins Mall
and Moscow<BR><BR><BR>> Visionaires -<BR>><BR>> Crank up your speakers
and watch/listen to Wayne Krauss . . .<BR>><BR>> "Behind Closed
Doors"<BR>><BR>> </FONT><A
href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uziWdh9MfjI"><FONT face=Arial
size=2>http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uziWdh9MfjI</FONT></A><BR><FONT face=Arial
size=2>><BR>> Tom Hansen<BR>> Moscow, Idaho<BR>>> R-<BR>>>
I agree with your concern and your indignation.<BR>>> I thought these GMA
council candidates were supposed to bring "common<BR>> sense"<BR>>> to
Moscow.<BR>>> Now we Moscow taxpayers are financing sprawl in Whitman
County.<BR>>> Disgusting<BR>>>
BL<BR>>><BR>>><BR>>><BR>>> ----- Original Message -----
<BR>>> From: "roger hayes" <</FONT><A
href="mailto:rhayes@turbonet.com"><FONT face=Arial
size=2>rhayes@turbonet.com</FONT></A><FONT face=Arial size=2>><BR>>>
To: <</FONT><A href="mailto:vision2020@moscow.com"><FONT face=Arial
size=2>vision2020@moscow.com</FONT></A><FONT face=Arial size=2>><BR>>>
Sent: Wednesday, February 06, 2008 7:25 AM<BR>>> Subject: [Vision2020]
Hawkins Mall and Moscow<BR>>><BR>>><BR>>> > Dear Moscow
taxpayers and business owners,<BR>>> ><BR>>> > It appears the
city of Moscow will provide water, sewer, and most<BR>>> > likely
police and fire services to the proposed Hawkins development<BR>>> >
which is slated to be built just across the border in Washington.
Who<BR>>> > will benefit by this? Hawkins, regional developers and
Whitman county.<BR>>> > The losers will be Moscow businesses and Moscow
taxpayers.<BR>>> > If this plan comes to fruition, we will be exporting
our tax dollars to<BR>>> > Whitman county, shipping the profits of
local business to another<BR>>> > state, while reducing Moscow's tax
base, AND increasing the demand on<BR>>> > our city's infrastructure.
How much money will Hawkins agree to pay<BR>>> > Moscow to mitigate the
destructive consequences this megamall will have<BR>>> > on our
city?<BR>>> > With the exception of Tom Lamar, the city council voted
against the<BR>>> > best interests of our city and its citizens. Walter
Steed said he could<BR>>> > not comment on the negotiations because
they were held in "secret." Why<BR>>> > the secrecy? Steed also said
"this will not make some people happy."<BR>>> > Well, when you make a
deal which is destructive to the people who<BR>>> > elected you, it is
bound to make them unhappy.<BR>>> > We need to consider a
RECALL!<BR>>> ><BR>>> > Roger Hayes<BR>>> >
Moscow!<BR><BR></FONT></BODY></HTML>