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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>And you know as well as anyone I do not believe
discrimination against a person because of their religion (or disability, or
race, or gender, or sexual orientation) is ever appropriate. What I
contend is this video did not rise to that level. You disagree, well we've
done that before, haven't we?</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Sue </FONT></DIV>
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style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: black"><B>From:</B>
<A title=donovanjarnold2005@yahoo.com
href="mailto:donovanjarnold2005@yahoo.com">Donovan Arnold</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A title=suehovey@moscow.com
href="mailto:suehovey@moscow.com">Sue Hovey</A> ; <A
title=idahotom@hotmail.com href="mailto:idahotom@hotmail.com">Tom Hansen</A> ;
<A title=vision2020@moscow.com
href="mailto:vision2020@moscow.com">vision2020@moscow.com</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Saturday, January 26, 2008 5:38
PM</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: [Vision2020] Here I am With
President Romney</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>
<DIV>Sue,</DIV>
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<DIV>"<EM>Donovan, I disagree. I find Mormons have a lot of fun poking
fun at themselves. One of the funniest events I ever attended was a Salt
Lake City teachers' meeting where the evening's entertainment was a fellow who
traveled the LDS Church circuit with a hilarious monologue based on Mormon
traditions</EM>"</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>You are welcome to disagree. I however, think that attacking a person's
gender, sexuality, religion, family, race, economic status, or disability are
all distasteful. </DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>First, I think the context of your example and the one in this media
presentation is very different, this was done by a person attempting to
discredit someone because of their faith and to cause them harm on a
non-related job issue. His faith doesn't disqualify him for the job, which is
what this presentation was attempting to do. This was not done for and by
Mormons for entertainment purposes only, as your context was made. </DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>Second, a person's ability to defend or not defend themselves
from such attacks is not what is at issue. Gays, Lesbians, most individuals
with disabilities, women, Blacks, Hispanics, and other minorities are
more than capable of defending themselves. That does not excuse people from
bashing them and stating they are disqualified from serving in a position
because of difference. </DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>You may believe that discrimination and ridicule of a person for their
religion is OK, but I do not. </DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>Best Regards,</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>Donovan<BR><BR><B><I>Sue Hovey <suehovey@moscow.com></I></B>
wrote:</DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Donovan, I disagree. I find Mormons
have a lot of fun poking fun at themselves. One of the funniest
events I ever attended was a Salt Lake City teachers' meeting where the
evening's entertainment was a fellow who traveled the LDS Church circuit
with a hilarious monologue based on Mormon traditions--the one I remember
was the Mormon women work at crafting clusters of grapes in resin for
table decorations. But there were others touching on polygamy,
garments, etc. I'm willing to bet you, most LDS folks weren't
nearly as offended as you were, and they can take up for themselves
anyway. </FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Sue </FONT> </DIV></BLOCKQUOTE>
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<DIV
style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: black"><B>From:</B>
<A title=donovanjarnold2005@yahoo.com
href="mailto:donovanjarnold2005@yahoo.com">Donovan Arnold</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A title=idahotom@hotmail.com
href="mailto:idahotom@hotmail.com">Tom Hansen</A> ; <A
title=vision2020@moscow.com
href="mailto:vision2020@moscow.com">vision2020@moscow.com</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Friday, January 25, 2008 6:56
PM</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: [Vision2020] Here I am
With President Romney</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>
<DIV>This is disgusting Hansen!</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>I really would think that a person such as yourself who claims
to be liberal would find this kind of media poking fun at millions of
people's religious faith as intolerable. </DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>You know, there are millions of good people that are Mormons in the
country, and while I might not agree with all the points of their faith,
poking fun at them for their faith is unAmerican, prejudiced, very
discriminatory, not to mention arrogant. </DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>I think you owe all the Mormons and their friends on this list
an apology for promoting this kind of negative campaigning as acceptable.
</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>And as if you couldn't find something else to dog on Romney as to
have to shoot below the belt and go for his faith. Do you not realize that
this hurtful to all Mormons when you promote this garbage? </DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>Best Regards,</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>Donovan <BR><BR><B><I>Tom Hansen <idahotom@hotmail.com></I></B>
wrote:</DIV>
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"Here I am With President Romney"<BR><A
href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ALG50bmbLW0">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ALG50bmbLW0</A><BR> <BR>Sing
along . . .<BR> <BR>(to the tune of "Hello Muddah, Hello Faddah" by
Allan Sherman)<BR> <BR>Hello Hillary, Hey Giuliani <BR>Here I am
with President Romney <BR>How he won this was a riot <BR>Newsweek caught
you two in bathrobes at the Hyatt<BR><BR>Mitt says our land needs
reformin' <BR>'Cause it's not completely Mormon <BR>So protesters must
speak softly <BR>And the War on Drugs now targets tea and
coffee<BR><BR>For his talks with dignitaries <BR>Mitt just sends the
missionaries <BR>And state dinners - gee, they're mellow <BR>All the
heads of state bring casserole and Jell-o<BR><BR>Heads on Rushmore - you
would dig 'em <BR>Mitt just sculpted Brother Brigham <BR>And the anthem
needed switchin' <BR>So it's now "I Hope They Call Me on a
Mission"<BR><BR>Oh my word <BR>He got elected <BR>Oh my gosh <BR>How
unexpected <BR>'Cause he's quite <BR>Distinctly male and white
<BR>Despite <BR>His V.P. Gladys Knight<BR><BR>Oh my heck <BR>The far
right trounces <BR>Mormon lives <BR>So Mitt renounces <BR>Plural wives
<BR>But deep down they're OK <BR>As long as none are gay<BR><BR>Now I
don't know where we're headin' <BR>But it might be Armageddon <BR>So you
sinners better move it <BR>'Cause we're in the latter days and Mitt will
prove it<BR><BR>I must meet the Elders' Quorum <BR>At the White House
here in Orem <BR>So I'll run now - this is awesome <BR>We'll be swearing
in Chief Justice Donny Osmond!
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