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A number of people repeated the same crap, and many of them should have known better. There were media outlets providing accurate information in the same time frame.<br><br>However, we should all remember that there were inspectors in Iraq before the war, with access to sites all over the country, who had found nothing. To proceed with the war with this information available was folly, and only goes to show that WMD was not the reason for the war. <br><br>Permanent bases were high on the list of reasons, and now the Administration is moving to have its puppet in Iraq sign an agreement to allow such bases, ensuring we cannot get out.<br><br>Sunil<br><br><blockquote><hr>From: kjajmix1@msn.com<br>To: vpschwaller@gmail.com; vision2020@moscow.com<br>Date: Fri, 25 Jan 2008 09:12:50 -0800<br>Subject: Re: [Vision2020] 935 False Statements Made Before War<br><br>
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Welcome back, Glenn -- all of you,<br><br>Every one of the people you mention below voted on the basis of intelligence presented to them, not benefiting from the real information that appears more and more likely to have been kept from them by Bush and his neo-con buddies. The information they received has been found to be at best misleading, selectively presented, and cloaked in an urgency that stoked fires of war when the steady flame of prudence clearly wasn't what the country wanted.<br><br>I hope, Glenn, that you enjoyed your trip back east!<br><br>Keely<br><br><br><br><br><blockquote><hr>Date: Thu, 24 Jan 2008 17:48:22 -0800<br>From: vpschwaller@gmail.com<br>To: vision2020@moscow.com<br>Subject: Re: [Vision2020] 935 False Statements Made Before War<br><br><div><font face="arial,sans-serif">Well I guess it's comforting to know the Bush administration was standing alone in their beliefs on stopping Hussein and his WMD program . . . </font></div>
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<font face="arial,sans-serif">"Without question, we need to disarm Saddam Hussein. He is a brutal, murderous dictator, leading an oppressive regime ... He presents a particularly grievous threat because he is so consistently prone to miscalculation ... And now he is miscalculating America's response to his continued deceit and his consistent grasp for weapons of mass destruction ... So the threat of Saddam Hussein with weapons of mass destruction is real..."
<br><span style=""> - Sen. John F. Kerry (D, MA), Jan. 23. 2003<b> </b></span></font><br>
<font face="arial,sans-serif">"I will be voting to give the President of the United States the authority to use force -- if necessary -- to disarm Saddam Hussein because I believe that a deadly arsenal of weapons of mass destruction in his hands is a real and grave threat to our security."
<br><span style=""> - Sen. John F. Kerry (D, MA), Oct. 9, 2002<b> </b></span></font><br>
<font face="arial,sans-serif">"One way or the other, we are determined to deny Iraq the capacity to develop weapons of mass destruction and the missiles to deliver them. That is our bottom line."</font><b><br>
</b><span style=""><font face="arial,sans-serif"> - President Clinton, Feb. 4, 1998</font></span><br>
<font face="arial,sans-serif">"If Saddam rejects peace and we have to use force, our purpose is clear. We want to seriously diminish the threat posed by Iraq's weapons of mass destruction program."<br><span style="">
- President Bill Clinton, Feb. 17, 1998 </span></font><br>
<font face="arial,sans-serif">"We must stop Saddam from ever again jeopardizing the stability and security of his neighbors with weapons of mass destruction."<br><b> - </b><span style="">
Madeline Albright, Feb 1, 1998<b> </b></span></font><br>
<font face="arial,sans-serif">"He will use those weapons of mass destruction again, as he has ten times since 1983."<br><b> - </b><span style="">Sandy Berger, Clinton National Security Adviser, Feb, 18, 1998
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<font face="arial,sans-serif">"[W]e urge you, after consulting with Congress, and consistent with the U.S. Constitution and laws, to take necessary actions (including, if appropriate, air and missile strikes on suspect Iraqi sites) to respond effectively to the threat posed by Iraq's refusal to end its weapons of mass destruction programs."
<br><span style=""> </span>Letter to President Clinton.<br><span style=""><span style=""> </span>Senators Carl Levin, Tom Daschle, John Kerry, others, Oct. 9, 1998
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<font face="arial,sans-serif">"Saddam Hussein has been engaged in the development of weapons of mass destruction technology which is a threat to countries in the region and he has made a mockery of the weapons inspection process."
<br><b> - </b><span style="">Rep. Nancy Pelosi (D, CA), Dec. 16, 1998</span></font><br>
<font face="arial,sans-serif">"Hussein has ... chosen to spend his money on building weapons of mass destruction and palaces for his cronies."<br><b> - </b><span style="">Madeline Albright, Clinton Secretary of State, Nov. 10, 1999
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<font face="arial,sans-serif">"We begin with the common belief that Saddam Hussein is a tyrant and a threat to the peace and stability of the region. He has ignored the mandate of the United Nations and is building weapons of mass destruction and th! e means of delivering them."
<br><b> - </b><span style="">Sen. Carl Levin (D, MI), Sept. 19, 2002</span></font><br>
<font face="arial,sans-serif">"We know that he has stored secret supplies of biological and chemical weapons throughout his country."<br><b> </b><span style="">- Al Gore, Sept. 23, 2002
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<font face="arial,sans-serif">"Iraq's search for weapons of mass destruction has proven impossible to deter and we should assume that it will continue for as long as Saddam is in power."<br><b> - </b><span style="">
Al Gore, Sept. 23, 2002<b> </b></span></font><br>
<font face="arial,sans-serif">"We have known for many years that Saddam Hussein is seeking and developing weapons of mass destruction."<br><b> - </b><span style="">Sen. Ted Kennedy (D, MA), Sept. 27, 2002
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<font face="arial,sans-serif">"The last UN weapons inspectors left Iraq in October of 1998. We are confident that Saddam Hussein retains some stockpiles of chemical and biological weapons, and that he has since embarked on a crash course to build up his chemical and biological warfare capabilities. Intelligence reports indicate that he is seeking nuclear weapons..."
<br><b> - </b><span style="">Sen. Robert Byrd (D, WV), Oct. 3, 2002<b> </b></span></font><br>
<font face="arial,sans-serif">"There is unmistakable evidence that Saddam Hussein is working aggressively to develop nuclear weapons and will likely have nuclear weapons within the next five years ... We also should remember we have always underestimated the progress Saddam has made in development of weapons of mass destruction."
<br><b> - </b><span style="">Sen. Jay Rockefeller (D, WV), Oct 10, 2002<b> </b></span><br><br>"In the four years since the inspectors left, intelligence reports show that Saddam Hussein has worked to rebuild his chemical and biological weapons stock, his missile delivery capability, and his nuclear program. He has also given aid, comfort, and sanctuary to terrorists, including al Qaeda members ... It is clear, however, that if left unchecked, Saddam Hussein will continue to increase his capacity to wage biological and chemical warfare, and will keep trying to develop nuclear weapons."
<br><b> - </b><span style="">Sen. Hillary Clinton (D, NY), Oct 10, 2002<b> </b></span><br><br>"We are in possession of what I think to be compelling evidence that Saddam Hussein has, and has had for a number of years, a developing capacity for the production and storage of weapons of mass destruction."
<br><b> - </b><span style="">Sen. Bob Graham (D, FL), Dec. 8, 2002</span></font><br>
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<font face="arial,sans-serif"><span style="">Seeya slipping round town Moscow</span></font><br>
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<div class="EC_EC_gmail_quote">On Jan 23, 2008 11:52 AM, Tom Hansen <<a href="mailto:thansen@moscow.com">thansen@moscow.com</a>> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="EC_EC_gmail_quote" style="padding-left: 1ex;">>From the Army Times at:<br><br><a href="http://tinyurl.com/36gyfa" target="_blank">http://tinyurl.com/36gyfa
</a><br><br>--------------------------------------------------------<br><br>Study: 935 false statements made before war<br><br>By Douglass K. Daniel - The Associated Press<br>Posted : Wednesday Jan 23, 2008 13:12:55 EST<br>
<br>A study by two nonprofit journalism organizations found that President Bush<br>and top administration officials issued hundreds of false statements about<br>the national security threat from Iraq in the two years following the 2001
<br>terrorist attacks.<br><br>The study concluded that the statements "were part of an orchestrated<br>campaign that effectively galvanized public opinion and, in the process, led<br>the nation to war under decidedly false pretenses."
<br><br>The study was posted Tuesday on the Web site of the Center for Public<br>Integrity, which worked with the Fund for Independence in Journalism.<br><br>White House spokesman Scott Stanzel did not comment on the merits of the
<br>study Tuesday night but reiterated the administration's position that the<br>world community viewed Iraq's leader, Saddam Hussein, as a threat.<br><br>"The actions taken in 2003 were based on the collective judgment of
<br>intelligence agencies around the world," Stanzel said.<br><br>The study counted 935 false statements in the two-year period. It found that<br>in speeches, briefings, interviews and other venues, Bush and administration
<br>officials stated unequivocally on at least 532 occasions that Iraq had<br>weapons of mass destruction or was trying to produce or obtain them or had<br>links to al-Qaida or both.<br><br>"It is now beyond dispute that Iraq did not possess any weapons of mass
<br>destruction or have meaningful ties to al-Qaida," according to Charles Lewis<br>and Mark Reading-Smith of the Fund for Independence in Journalism staff<br>members, writing an overview of the study. "In short, the Bush
<br>administration led the nation to war on the basis of erroneous information<br>that it methodically propagated and that culminated in military action<br>against Iraq on March 19, 2003."<br><br>Named in the study along with Bush were top officials of the administration
<br>during the period studied: Vice President Dick Cheney, national security<br>adviser Condoleezza Rice, Defense Secretary Donald H. Rumsfeld, Secretary of<br>State Colin Powell, Deputy Defense Secretary Paul Wolfowitz and White House
<br>press secretaries Ari Fleischer and Scott McClellan.<br><br>Bush led with 259 false statements - 231 about weapons of mass destruction<br>in Iraq and 28 about Iraq's links to al-Qaida, the study found. Powell was<br>
second with 244 false statements about weapons of mass destruction in Iraq<br>and 10 about Iraq and al-Qaida.<br><br>The center said the study was based on a database created with public<br>statements over the two years beginning Sept. 11, 2001, and information from
<br>more than 25 government reports, books, articles, speeches and interviews.<br><br>"The cumulative effect of these false statements - amplified by thousands of<br>news stories and broadcasts - was massive, with the media coverage creating
<br>an almost impenetrable din for several critical months in the run-up to<br>war," the study concluded.<br><br>"Some journalists - indeed, even some entire news organizations - have since<br>acknowledged that their coverage during those pre-war months was far too
<br>deferential and uncritical. These mea culpas notwithstanding, much of the<br>wall-to-wall media coverage provided additional, 'independent' validation of<br>the Bush administration's false statements about Iraq," it said.
<br><br>--------------------------------------------------------<br><br>Seeya round town, Moscow, Idaho<br><br>Tom Hansen<br>Moscow, Idaho<br><br>"Patriotism is not a short and frenzied outburst of emotion but the tranquil
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