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And no thanks at all to you, Gary, for being so rude and dismissive to a man who's never done you a bit of harm.<br><br>Keely<br><br><br><br><br><blockquote><hr>From: jampot@roadrunner.com<br>To: starbliss@gmail.com; ophite@gmail.com<br>Date: Fri, 25 Jan 2008 05:30:40 -0800<br>CC: vision2020@moscow.com<br>Subject: Re: [Vision2020] 935 False Statements Made Before War<br><br>
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<div><font face="Arial" size="2">"...<font face="Times New Roman" size="3">that the US
public did not question this refocus of our military, when the job of catching
Bin Laden was left undone, suggests a disturbing susceptibility to simple minded
sound bite scare tactic propaganda coupled with a very short attention
span."</font></font></div>
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<div><font face="Arial" size="2">What a blessing that we have people as intelligent
and vigilant as you keeping a handle on these important matters from the
confines of your basement of solitude. The next time us simple
minded, attention deficit sheep lose sight of what should be apparent
to all, if we were only half as bright as you, please send Brain Guy out to box
our ears and set us all straight.</font></div>
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<div><font face="Arial" size="2">Thanks for being you,</font></div>
<div><font face="Arial" size="2">g</font></div>
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<a title="starbliss@gmail.com" href="mailto:starbliss@gmail.com">Ted Moffett</a>
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<div style="font-family: arial; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; font-size: 10pt; line-height: normal; font-size-adjust: none; font-stretch: normal;"><b>To:</b> <a title="ophite@gmail.com" href="mailto:ophite@gmail.com">Andreas Schou</a> </div>
<div style="font-family: arial; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; font-size: 10pt; line-height: normal; font-size-adjust: none; font-stretch: normal;"><b>Cc:</b> <a title="vision2020@moscow.com" href="mailto:vision2020@moscow.com">vision2020@moscow.com</a> </div>
<div style="font-family: arial; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; font-size: 10pt; line-height: normal; font-size-adjust: none; font-stretch: normal;"><b>Sent:</b> Friday, January 25, 2008 5:07
AM</div>
<div style="font-family: arial; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; font-size: 10pt; line-height: normal; font-size-adjust: none; font-stretch: normal;"><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Vision2020] 935 False
Statements Made Before War</div>
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<div><br>All-</div>
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<div>Many people were deceived by the coordinated effort to hype Iraq's WMD
capability in the late 1990s up to the 2003 invasion. And it seemed many
forgot that the US supported Iraq's weapons programs with aid, during the
Reagan administration (why Reagan is such a huge hero I can't fathom,
given his involvement with the US Constitution violating Iran/Contra scandal,
aid to Saddam, support for Central American death squad dictators, and ill
advised support for the Taliban in Afghanistan, the mujahideen 'freedom
fighters,' and other black marks). </div>
<div> </div>
<div>Former Bush administration Secretary of Defense Donald Rumsfeld shook
hands with Saddam Hussein in 1983 when he served in the Reagan
administration:</div>
<div> </div>
<div><a href="http://www.gwu.edu/%7Ensarchiv/NSAEBB/NSAEBB82/press.htm" target="_blank">http://www.gwu.edu/~nsarchiv/NSAEBB/NSAEBB82/press.htm</a></div>
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<div><a href="http://www.fas.org/irp/congress/2002_cr/s092002.html" target="_blank">http://www.fas.org/irp/congress/2002_cr/s092002.html</a></div>
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<div>But being ill informed or deceived about Iraq's WMD program and ties to
Al Qaeda is one thing. Cheney, Bush and others in the Bush
administration, using the power of the executive
branch, deliberately deceived the US public in hyping this danger,
to justify an invasion and occupation of another nation by the US military,
killing, given a conservative estimate, over 100,000 civilians, with over a
million Iraqis now refuges or internally displaced (one reason the level of
violence is down, with neighborhoods now ethnically cleansed into
exclusive Sunni or Shite areas, as hundreds of thousands of Iraqis
have fled for their lives). This is an impeachable
offence, linked to the commission of war crimes, especially with the
justifications and commission of torture, Abu Ghraib prison horrors, etc.
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<div>The media, the vaunted Fourth Estate, along with the US Congress, failed
utterly to expose the fabrications (yellow cake uranium from Niger),
distortions (Iraq with ties to Al Queda and links to 9/11), and well known
falsehoods (false claim Iraq had obtained centrifuge tubes for nuclear
material processing), in the run up to the invasion. Even former
Secretary of State Colin Powell has admitted he presented erroneous
information to the UN in his presentation before the US invasion regarding
Iraq WMD capability: </div>
<div> </div>
<div><a href="http://query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpage.html?res=9C0CE3D9143FF934A25756C0A9629C8B63" target="_blank">http://query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpage.html?res=9C0CE3D9143FF934A25756C0A9629C8B63</a></div>
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<div>Pakistan's nuclear weapons are more of a threat to world security, it can
be argued, than Saddam's WMDs ever were, given Pakistan has Islamic
militants operating inside its borders, with sympathizers in the Pakistan
military, who once supported the Taliban in Afghanistan. Amazing that a
government with known ties to the Taliban and Al Qaeda, with Bin Laden
suspected to be in hiding near or within its borders, is a US alley receiving
millions in US military aid, while Saddam had no substantial ties to the
Bin Laden/9/11 Islamic militants. </div>
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<div>There are serious questions regarding why the US shifted the focus away
from catching Bin Laden in the Afghanistan/Pakistan border area after the post
9/11 invasion of Afghanistan, while pushing for the invasion of Iraq with a
demonization of Saddam as a threat to US national
security. And that the US public did not question this
refocus of our military, when the job of catching Bin Laden was left undone,
suggests a disturbing susceptibility to simple minded sound bite scare tactic
propaganda coupled with a very short attention span. </div>
<div> </div>
<div>Ted Moffett</div>
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<div><span class="EC_gmail_quote">On 1/24/08, <b class="EC_gmail_sendername">Andreas
Schou</b> <<a href="mailto:ophite@gmail.com">ophite@gmail.com</a>>
wrote:</span>
<blockquote class="EC_gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); padding-left: 1ex;">Glenn--<br><br>(1)
Whose false statements did Kerry rely on in coming to the<br>conclusion that
Hussein presented a "particularly grievous threat?" <br><br>(2) What was the
result of Clinton's Iraq policy, including threats of<br>force? Was it (a)
an active WMD program, or (b) an inactive WMD<br>program?<br><br>--
ACS<br><br></blockquote></div>
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