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Las Vegas has a lovely canopy over it's historic downtown district the entire length of Fremont street. It has about a billion LED lights that play 1 of 4 animated features once an hour accompanied by song. I don't believe it blocks any weather though. Do we have a budget for that? It wouldn't be as long, after all.<BR>
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Ok, I'm just feeling saucy today. Excuse the sarcasm fellow visionistas {;O)<BR><BR>> From: vision2020-request@moscow.com<BR>> Subject: Vision2020 Digest, Vol 19, Issue 70<BR>> To: vision2020@moscow.com<BR>> Date: Tue, 15 Jan 2008 12:00:04 -0800<BR>> <BR>> Send Vision2020 mailing list submissions to<BR>> vision2020@moscow.com<BR>> <BR>> To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit<BR>> http://mailman.fsr.com/mailman/listinfo/vision2020<BR>> or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to<BR>> vision2020-request@moscow.com<BR>> <BR>> You can reach the person managing the list at<BR>> vision2020-owner@moscow.com<BR>> <BR>> When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific<BR>> than "Re: Contents of Vision2020 digest..."<BR>> <BR>> <BR>> Today's Topics:<BR>> <BR>> 1. Re: Chas's Plan for Moscow Was: Will MoscowsupportHawkins<BR>> sprawl-mall? (Chasuk)<BR>> 2. Re: Chas's Plan for Moscow Was: Will MoscowsupportHawkins<BR>> sprawl-mall? (Tom Hansen)<BR>> 3. Re: Chas's Plan for Moscow Was (Jeff Harkins)<BR>> <BR>> <BR>> ----------------------------------------------------------------------<BR>> <BR>> Message: 1<BR>> Date: Mon, 14 Jan 2008 21:11:44 -0800<BR>> From: Chasuk <chasuk@gmail.com><BR>> Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Chas's Plan for Moscow Was: Will<BR>> MoscowsupportHawkins sprawl-mall?<BR>> To: "Tom Hansen" <thansen@moscow.com><BR>> Cc: v2020 <vision2020@moscow.com>, Matt Decker <mattd2107@hotmail.com><BR>> Message-ID:<BR>> <ef6f41de0801142111o605ee9f0x9d351c587a2bb877@mail.gmail.com><BR>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1<BR>> <BR>> On Jan 14, 2008 11:43 AM, Tom Hansen <thansen@moscow.com> wrote:<BR>> <BR>> > "4. Build a huge roof over this entire area."<BR>> <BR>> I'm actually quite serious. Hasn't anybody ever been to one of those<BR>> covered outdoor malls in Europe? They are covered with some sort of<BR>> semi-transparent material -- I'm uncertain whether it is plastic or<BR>> glass -- so the sun still shines through, and it is absolutely lovely.<BR>> Fresh air, sunshine, but still protection from most of the inclement<BR>> weather. Trees aren't removed. The glass/plastic usually seems to be<BR>> tinted a soothing green. Heck, I've been in supermarkets in England<BR>> where the builders couldn't interfere with existing trees or streams,<BR>> so these natural features were preserved within attractive courtyards.<BR>> If the English can do it, so can we.<BR>> <BR>> Chas<BR>> <BR>> <BR>> <BR>> ------------------------------<BR>> <BR>> Message: 2<BR>> Date: Tue, 15 Jan 2008 05:49:48 -0800<BR>> From: "Tom Hansen" <thansen@moscow.com><BR>> Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Chas's Plan for Moscow Was: Will<BR>> MoscowsupportHawkins sprawl-mall?<BR>> To: "'Chasuk'" <chasuk@gmail.com><BR>> Cc: 'v2020' <vision2020@moscow.com>, 'Matt Decker'<BR>> <mattd2107@hotmail.com><BR>> Message-ID: <200801151350.m0FDnr8t024324@mail-gw.fsr.net><BR>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"<BR>> <BR>> Yes, Chas. You are correct. Some cities in Europe do have small portions of<BR>> their downtown districts covered with (what seems to be) a transparent, or<BR>> translucent canopy. Nurnberg, Germany has three such canopies (or they did<BR>> back in the mid-80's) which were used extensively for their sidewalk markets<BR>> and caf?s during Kringl Market. Madrid, Spain has (or had) one that I know<BR>> of. <BR>> <BR>> One thing, though, Chas: I assume (I don't have any figures to back me)<BR>> that the budgets of Nurnberg, Madrid, and London are considerably larger<BR>> than that of Moscow, Idaho. We can easily assume that the initial cost will<BR>> be considerable, not to mention regular maintenance costs and potential<BR>> civil litigation should someone be injured by the canopy.<BR>> <BR>> Heck! The city is struggling with snow removal. And now you want to thrown<BR>> in a regional canopy because it is "absolutely lovely"????????????????<BR>> <BR>> Seeya round town, Moscow.<BR>> <BR>> Tom Hansen<BR>> Moscow, Idaho<BR>> <BR>> "A bad cause will ever be supported by bad means and bad men." <BR>> <BR>> - Thomas Paine (English Writer, 1737-1809)<BR>> <BR>> -----Original Message-----<BR>> From: Chasuk [mailto:chasuk@gmail.com] <BR>> Sent: Monday, January 14, 2008 9:12 PM<BR>> To: Tom Hansen<BR>> Cc: lfalen; Matt Decker; v2020<BR>> Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Chas's Plan for Moscow Was: Will<BR>> MoscowsupportHawkins sprawl-mall?<BR>> <BR>> On Jan 14, 2008 11:43 AM, Tom Hansen <thansen@moscow.com> wrote:<BR>> <BR>> > "4. Build a huge roof over this entire area."<BR>> <BR>> I'm actually quite serious. Hasn't anybody ever been to one of those<BR>> covered outdoor malls in Europe? They are covered with some sort of<BR>> semi-transparent material -- I'm uncertain whether it is plastic or<BR>> glass -- so the sun still shines through, and it is absolutely lovely.<BR>> Fresh air, sunshine, but still protection from most of the inclement<BR>> weather. Trees aren't removed. The glass/plastic usually seems to be<BR>> tinted a soothing green. Heck, I've been in supermarkets in England<BR>> where the builders couldn't interfere with existing trees or streams,<BR>> so these natural features were preserved within attractive courtyards.<BR>> If the English can do it, so can we.<BR>> <BR>> Chas<BR>> <BR>> <BR>> <BR>> <BR>> <BR>> <BR>> ------------------------------<BR>> <BR>> Message: 3<BR>> Date: Tue, 15 Jan 2008 11:26:12 -0800<BR>> From: Jeff Harkins <jeffh@moscow.com><BR>> Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Chas's Plan for Moscow Was<BR>> To: vision2020@moscow.com<BR>> Message-ID: <200801151926.m0FJQF2h060911@mail-gw.fsr.net><BR>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"; format=flowed<BR>> <BR>> Just a couple of simple question for Chas. How <BR>> much would it cost? And who, exactly, would pay for it?<BR>> <BR>> Perhaps if we designed them as funnels (yes, <BR>> giant funnels), we could capture rainfall and inject it back into the aquifer.<BR>> <BR>> <BR>> <BR>> At 05:49 AM 1/15/2008, you wrote:<BR>> >Yes, Chas. You are correct. Some cities in Europe do have small portions of<BR>> >their downtown districts covered with (what seems to be) a transparent, or<BR>> >translucent canopy. Nurnberg, Germany has three such canopies (or they did<BR>> >back in the mid-80's) which were used extensively for their sidewalk markets<BR>> >and caf?s during Kringl Market. Madrid, Spain has (or had) one that I know<BR>> >of.<BR>> ><BR>> >One thing, though, Chas: I assume (I don't have any figures to back me)<BR>> >that the budgets of Nurnberg, Madrid, and London are considerably larger<BR>> >than that of Moscow, Idaho. We can easily assume that the initial cost will<BR>> >be considerable, not to mention regular maintenance costs and potential<BR>> >civil litigation should someone be injured by the canopy.<BR>> ><BR>> >Heck! The city is struggling with snow removal. And now you want to thrown<BR>> >in a regional canopy because it is "absolutely lovely"????????????????<BR>> ><BR>> >Seeya round town, Moscow.<BR>> ><BR>> >Tom Hansen<BR>> >Moscow, Idaho<BR>> ><BR>> >"A bad cause will ever be supported by bad means and bad men."<BR>> ><BR>> >- Thomas Paine (English Writer, 1737-1809)<BR>> ><BR>> >-----Original Message-----<BR>> >From: Chasuk [mailto:chasuk@gmail.com]<BR>> >Sent: Monday, January 14, 2008 9:12 PM<BR>> >To: Tom Hansen<BR>> >Cc: lfalen; Matt Decker; v2020<BR>> >Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Chas's Plan for Moscow Was: Will<BR>> >MoscowsupportHawkins sprawl-mall?<BR>> ><BR>> >On Jan 14, 2008 11:43 AM, Tom Hansen <thansen@moscow.com> wrote:<BR>> ><BR>> > > "4. Build a huge roof over this entire area."<BR>> ><BR>> >I'm actually quite serious. Hasn't anybody ever been to one of those<BR>> >covered outdoor malls in Europe? They are covered with some sort of<BR>> >semi-transparent material -- I'm uncertain whether it is plastic or<BR>> >glass -- so the sun still shines through, and it is absolutely lovely.<BR>> > Fresh air, sunshine, but still protection from most of the inclement<BR>> >weather. Trees aren't removed. The glass/plastic usually seems to be<BR>> >tinted a soothing green. Heck, I've been in supermarkets in England<BR>> >where the builders couldn't interfere with existing trees or streams,<BR>> >so these natural features were preserved within attractive courtyards.<BR>> > If the English can do it, so can we.<BR>> ><BR>> >Chas<BR>> ><BR>> ><BR>> ><BR>> ><BR>> >=======================================================<BR>> > List services made available by First Step Internet,<BR>> > serving the communities of the Palouse since 1994.<BR>> > http://www.fsr.net<BR>> > mailto:Vision2020@moscow.com<BR>> >=======================================================<BR>> <BR>> <BR>> <BR>> <BR>> ------------------------------<BR>> <BR>> =======================================================<BR>> List services made available by First Step Internet, <BR>> serving the communities of the Palouse since 1994. <BR>> http://www.fsr.net <BR>> mailto:Vision2020@moscow.com<BR>> =======================================================<BR>> <BR>> End of Vision2020 Digest, Vol 19, Issue 70<BR>> ******************************************<BR><BR><br /><hr />Make distant family not so distant with Windows Vista® + Windows Live™. <a href='http://www.microsoft.com/windows/digitallife/keepintouch.mspx?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_CPC_VideoChat_distantfamily_012008' target='_new'>Start now!</a></body>
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