<html>
<head>
<style>
.hmmessage P
{
margin:0px;
padding:0px
}
body.hmmessage
{
FONT-SIZE: 10pt;
FONT-FAMILY:Tahoma
}
</style>
</head>
<body class='hmmessage'>
As one would have said in the '60's (or maybe the '70's) - <span style="color: rgb(255, 0, 0); font-weight: bold;">RIGHT ON, BROTHER</span>!!!!<br><br>(nailed that one solidly, you did.)<br><br>J :]<br><br><br>> Date: Fri, 4 Jan 2008 17:49:54 -0800<br>> From: godshatter@yahoo.com<br>> To: pkraut@moscow.com<br>> CC: vision2020@mail-gw.fsr.net<br>> Subject: Re: [Vision2020] [Bulk] Re: Iowa caucus stuff<br>> <br>> Pat,<br>> <br>> You have my permission to live your life any God-damned way you want to.<br>> <br>> Paul<br>> <br>> pkraut@moscow.com wrote:<br>> > I soooo always apprciate someone who is not a Christian telling me how I <br>> > should live it!!<br>> ><br>> ><br>> ><br>> > <br>> >> What if he was destitute and unable to provide for his family, and <br>> >> <br>> > broke <br>> > <br>> >> into your house because your son was hiring him under the table to do <br>> >> his chores for him?<br>> >><br>> >> I think the un-Christian thing about this (from my admittedly <br>> >> non-Christian perspective) is viewing these people as hardened <br>> >> <br>> > criminals <br>> > <br>> >> intent on taking our jobs away from us instead of people stuck between <br>> >> <br>> > a <br>> > <br>> >> rock and a hard place who have to find some way for their family to <br>> >> <br>> > survive.<br>> > <br>> >> I'm no Bible scholar, but I do remember a lot of talk about poverty and <br>> >> helping out your fellow man.<br>> >><br>> >> Paul<br>> >><br>> >> g. crabtree wrote:<br>> >> <br>> >>> It seems to me that your notion of the Gospel with regard to illegal <br>> >>> aliens is flawed. Do you believe that should a thief break into your <br>> >>> home it's your obligation to give him a hot meal and pay to have the <br>> >>> hand he cut breaking your window stitched up? Maybe some dental care <br>> >>> for him and his family while he's there? Heck as long as he's sitting <br>> >>> on your sofa why not arrange for a little in state tuition at the <br>> >>> local diploma mill and offer to pay expenses not covered by grants. <br>> >>> <br>> > By <br>> > <br>> >>> my reckoning it's not Christian charity if my compassion is forcibly <br>> >>> extracted at the point of a gun, be it in the form of increased taxes <br>> >>> by the government or an actual felon with a firearm. Charity should <br>> >>> <br>> > be <br>> > <br>> >>> an individual thing from the heart. Also, I'm no biblical scholar but <br>> >>> I'm fairly sure that the Bible does not preclude a sovereign country <br>> >>> having secure borders.<br>> >>> <br>> >>> g<br>> >>><br>> >>> ----- Original Message -----<br>> >>> *From:* keely emerinemix <mailto:kjajmix1@msn.com><br>> >>> *To:* J Ford <mailto:privatejf32@hotmail.com> ;<br>> >>> vision2020@moscow.com <mailto:vision2020@moscow.com><br>> >>> *Sent:* Thursday, January 03, 2008 7:06 PM<br>> >>> *Subject:* Re: [Vision2020] Iowa caucus stuff<br>> >>><br>> >>> My point wasn't that doctrine has a place in a presidential<br>> >>> campaign, but that I thought it was sad that so many conservative<br>> >>> evangelical Christians find confirmation and comfort in their<br>> >>> faith by being pissed off at undocumented immigrants. <br>> >>><br>> >>> Keely<br>> >>><br>> >>><br>> >>><br>> >>><br>> >>> --------------------------------------------------------------<br>> >>> <br>> > ----------<br>> > <br>> >>> From: privatejf32@hotmail.com <mailto:privatejf32@hotmail.com><br>> >>> To: vision2020@moscow.com <mailto:vision2020@moscow.com><br>> >>> Date: Thu, 3 Jan 2008 19:03:14 -0800<br>> >>> Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Iowa caucus stuff<br>> >>><br>> >>> I have to ask - why would any of the Gospel be part of a<br>> >>> candidate's priority? I mean, if we get in a fundamentalist<br>> >>> such as Doug - that just sets me teeth on edge. <br>> >>><br>> >>> No matter what candidate wins in the end, it should be the<br>> >>> benefit of the entire country, no matter a person's income,<br>> >>> that is priority. We should be concentrating on getting our<br>> >>> country up and running again, getting OUR kids fed, OUR<br>> >>> people's medical needs met, OUR country's goods sold, etc. <br>> >>> The more money and efforts we expend on the rest of the world<br>> >>> just seems to be going down the drain and the only return we<br>> >>> are seeing is OUR people constantly being targeted for<br>> >>> killing, maiming, destruction of all sorts and measures. <br>> >>><br>> >>> Our country must get back to protecting what's ours and then<br>> >>> we can offer help to those in other parts of the world with<br>> >>> what's left.<br>> >>><br>> >>> Sorry for the hard-nose approach, but really, after fighting<br>> >>> and seeing my friends die for OUR country only to see the<br>> >>> Administration/Powers-that-be give it all way, is getting old<br>> >>> and needs to stop if we are to survive this century in one<br>> >>> piece. <br>> >>><br>> >>> J :]<br>> >>><br>> >>><br>> >>> ----------------------------------------------------------<br>> >>> <br>> > --------------<br>> > <br>> >>> From: kjajmix1@msn.com<br>> >>> To: vision2020@moscow.com<br>> >>> Date: Thu, 3 Jan 2008 18:04:45 -0800<br>> >>> Subject: [Vision2020] Iowa caucus stuff<br>> >>><br>> >>> CNN projects Mike Huckabee as the GOP caucus winner in<br>> >>> Iowa, followed by Romney, then Thompson. On the<br>> >>> Democratic side, Edwards, Obama and Clinton are fairly<br>> >>> evenly matched and only Bill Richardson has made any<br>> >>> statistically notable waves among the second-tier <br>> >>> <br>> > candidates.<br>> > <br>> >>> I've been for Edwards since he announced, and while I<br>> >>> would be happy with any of the Democrats (except for<br>> >>> Kucinich and Gravel), I would be ecstatic if we had an<br>> >>> Edwards/Obama or Edwards/Richardson, or an Obama/???,<br>> >>> ticket in 2008. And two great things happen on January<br>> >>> 20, 2009 -- my son turns 20 (he was born on the final day<br>> >>> of the Reagan administration) and the days of the Bush<br>> >>> presidency are no more. <br>> >>><br>> >>> On a final note, I'm dismayed that several commentators<br>> >>> have noted that the GOP voters who identify as<br>> >>> evangelicals consider illegal immigration their top<br>> >>> issue. It would be wonderful if their top concern was<br>> >>> justice and opportunity for the poor, but I'm guessing<br>> >>> that the gospel of Glenn Beck, Lou Dobbs, Laura Ingraham<br>> >>> and Pat Buchanan has trumped the Gospel of that other guy<br>> >>> . . .<br>> >>><br>> >>> Keely<br>> >>><br>> >>><br>> >>><br>> >>> ----------------------------------------------------------<br>> >>> <br>> > --------------<br>> > <br>> >>> Share life as it happens with the new Windows Live. Share<br>> >>> now!<br>> >>> <br>> >>> <br>> > <http://www.windowslive.com/share.html?<br>> > ocid=TXT_TAGHM_Wave2_sharelife_122007><br>> > <br>> >>><br>> >>> --------------------------------------------------------------<br>> >>> <br>> > ----------<br>> > <br>> >>> The best games are on Xbox 360. Click here for a special offer<br>> >>> on an Xbox 360 Console. Get it now!<br>> >>> <http://www.xbox.com/en-US/hardware/wheretobuy/> <br>> >>><br>> >>><br>> >>> ------------------------------------------------------------------<br>> >>> <br>> > ------<br>> > <br>> >>> i’m is proud to present Cause Effect, a series about real people<br>> >>> making a difference. Learn more<br>> >>> <http://im.live.com/Messenger/IM/MTV/?source=text_Cause_Effect><br>> >>><br>> >>> ------------------------------------------------------------------<br>> >>> <br>> > ------<br>> > <br>> >>> =======================================================<br>> >>> List services made available by First Step Internet,<br>> >>> serving the communities of the Palouse since 1994. <br>> >>> http://www.fsr.net <br>> >>> mailto:Vision2020@moscow.com<br>> >>> =======================================================<br>> >>><br>> >>> ----------------------------------------------------------------------<br>> >>> <br>> > --<br>> > <br>> >>> =======================================================<br>> >>> List services made available by First Step Internet, <br>> >>> serving the communities of the Palouse since 1994. <br>> >>> http://www.fsr.net <br>> >>> mailto:Vision2020@moscow.com<br>> >>> =======================================================<br>> >>> <br>> >> =======================================================<br>> >> List services made available by First Step Internet, <br>> >> serving the communities of the Palouse since 1994. <br>> >> http://www.fsr.net <br>> >> mailto:Vision2020@moscow.com<br>> >> =======================================================<br>> >><br>> >> <br>> ><br>> ><br>> ><br>> ><br>> > ---------------------------------------------<br>> > This message was sent by First Step Internet.<br>> > http://www.fsr.com/<br>> ><br>> ><br>> > <br>> > ------------------------------------------------------------------------<br>> ><br>> > =======================================================<br>> > List services made available by First Step Internet, <br>> > serving the communities of the Palouse since 1994. <br>> > http://www.fsr.net <br>> > mailto:Vision2020@moscow.com<br>> > =======================================================<br>> <br>> =======================================================<br>> List services made available by First Step Internet, <br>> serving the communities of the Palouse since 1994. <br>> http://www.fsr.net <br>> mailto:Vision2020@moscow.com<br>> =======================================================<br><br /><hr />Get the power of Windows + Web with the new Windows Live. <a href='http://www.windowslive.com?ocid=TXT_TAGHM_Wave2_powerofwindows_012008' target='_new'>Get it now!</a></body>
</html>