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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>I would love to be able to say how sorry I
am that certain elements on this list find what I post to be objectionable.
I would love to be able to proclaim that I will restrain my "boorish"
impulses and not post items which cause discomfort and anguish for those I
disagree with. I would like to claim that I would enjoy nothing more then to
have this list be the peaceful refuge of the local philosophy departments and
their spawn, a friendly place where seldom is heard
a conservative word and a place where outlandish assertions are not
questioned all day. I'd love to tell you all of these happy and wonderful things
but it just wouldn't be true there simply isn't any chance in hell of it
happening.</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>My deepest condolences,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>g</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>From: "Scott Dredge" <</FONT><A
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>To: <</FONT><A
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Sent: Sunday, December 09, 2007 12:00
AM</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Civility is a two-way
street</FONT></DIV></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial><BR><FONT size=2></FONT></FONT></DIV><FONT face=Arial
size=2>>> Nick wrote:<BR>>> I think Ted Moffett's postings on the
Vision are some of the most<BR>> civil,<BR>>> best written, and
thoroughly researched work I've read on this list.<BR>> <BR>>
<BR>> I couldn't agree more Nick. This is why I would rather not see
Ted mix<BR>> it up with the likes of Gary. When I referred to Gary as
a<BR>> street fighter in a previous post I wasn't equating this with ghetto
gangs /<BR>> power / dominance, I was referring to his style of virtually
throwing a bucket<BR>> of marbles on the floor in the hopes that you all
start slip-sliding on them.<BR>> <BR>> Also, when I equate Gary to a
"master debater" this isn't exactly intended<BR>> as a compliment even though
it may appear to come across that way to<BR>> the more civil members of this
list.<BR>> <BR>>> I contrast Ted's posts with one that Crabtree did on
comparative<BR>> violence<BR>>> in Christianity and Islam.
It was one paragraph long, gave no<BR>> references,<BR>>> and yet
he, after many objections, still stood by his<BR>> unsupported
claims. <BR>> <BR>> I don't have a specific memory of this exchange
and I delete a heck of a lot<BR>> of posts, but it doesn't surprise me.
Most of the time Gary shoots from the hip.<BR>> <BR>>> And then there
is the incivility, which for me places him beyond
the<BR>> pale<BR>>> with the Wilsonistas, whom he supports in a
knee-jerk way.<BR>> <BR>> Gary is boorish in cyberspace. Please
avoid him whenever possible. Also,<BR>> my read is that he doesn't
support Wilsonistas per se, although he does<BR>> challenge some of the more
outlandish claims made against Christ Churchers<BR>> and Doug Wilson on this
list and it's a good thing at least someone does.<BR>> <BR>>> Keep up
the good work, Ted.<BR>> <BR>> Ditto<BR>> <BR>>> Nick
Gier<BR>> <BR>> -Scott Dredge<BR>>
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