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<DIV><FONT face=Arial>Is there something I was unaware of? Is Mr. Moffett a 10
year old crippled school girl on some form of life support? Does he tap out
his dire warnings for the universe with the eraser end of
a pencil clenched between his teeny tiny teeth on some special keyboard for
the enfeebled? I have enough respect for the man to believe that he can give as
well as he gets should he decide to. I feel certain he has no
real need of an on line guardian angel protecting his "sensitivities" from
supposed bullies or advise on who to engage with or how.</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial>Thank you however for your kindly granting
me permission to act as my own master. In the spirit of the season and
reciprocity I grant you the freedom to emulate whatever unpleasant aroma your
heart might desire. You may now wish to rejoin the rest of the cyber-saviors in
the mutual butt kissing ceremony that they seem to be currently
engaging in. As you might guess, it's a party I'll be opting out
of.</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial>g</FONT></DIV>
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style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: black"><B>From:</B>
<A title=davesway@hotmail.com href="mailto:davesway@hotmail.com">david
sarff</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A title=jampot@roadrunner.com
href="mailto:jampot@roadrunner.com">g. crabtree</A> ; <A
title=sdredge@yahoo.com href="mailto:sdredge@yahoo.com">Scott Dredge</A> ; <A
title=vision2020@moscow.com
href="mailto:vision2020@moscow.com">vision2020@moscow.com</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Sunday, December 09, 2007 4:50
PM</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> RE: [Vision2020] Civility is a
two-way street</DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Ok Gary, you don't have to do anything you don't
want to do.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2> Though we both know that your a good fellow
at the core. You can be just as mean and rotten as you
wish. B</FONT><FONT face=Arial size=2>e warned, if your going to
use over-inflated rhetoric to bully the other members for their
sensitivities. From here on out, I'm going to be on you like stink on you
know what.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2> You mistreated Ted, you know it. He
deserves better than a shine it on reaction, and you know it.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Dave</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>I would love to be able to say how sorry I
am that certain elements on this list find what I post to be
objectionable. I would love to be able to proclaim that I will restrain
my "boorish" impulses and not post items which cause discomfort and anguish
for those I disagree with. I would like to claim that I would enjoy nothing
more then to have this list be the peaceful refuge of the local philosophy
departments and their spawn, a friendly place where seldom is
heard a conservative word and a place where outlandish assertions
are not questioned all day. I'd love to tell you all of these happy and
wonderful things but it just wouldn't be true there simply isn't any
chance in hell of it happening.</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>My deepest condolences,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>g</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>----- Original Message ----- </FONT>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>From: "Scott Dredge" <</FONT><A
href="mailto:sdredge@yahoo.com"><FONT face=Arial
size=2>sdredge@yahoo.com</FONT></A><FONT face=Arial size=2>></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>To: <</FONT><A
href="mailto:vision2020@moscow.com"><FONT face=Arial
size=2>vision2020@moscow.com</FONT></A><FONT face=Arial
size=2>></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Sent: Sunday, December 09, 2007 12:00
AM</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Civility is a two-way
street</FONT></DIV></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial><BR><FONT size=2></FONT></FONT></DIV><FONT face=Arial
size=2>>> Nick wrote:<BR>>> I think Ted Moffett's postings on
the Vision are some of the most<BR>> civil,<BR>>> best
written, and thoroughly researched work I've read on this
list.<BR>> <BR>> <BR>> I couldn't agree more Nick. This
is why I would rather not see Ted mix<BR>> it up with the likes of
Gary. When I referred to Gary as a<BR>> street fighter in a
previous post I wasn't equating this with ghetto gangs /<BR>> power /
dominance, I was referring to his style of virtually throwing a
bucket<BR>> of marbles on the floor in the hopes that you all start
slip-sliding on them.<BR>> <BR>> Also, when I equate Gary to a "master
debater" this isn't exactly intended<BR>> as a compliment even though it
may appear to come across that way to<BR>> the more civil members of this
list.<BR>> <BR>>> I contrast Ted's posts with one that Crabtree did
on comparative<BR>> violence<BR>>> in Christianity and
Islam. It was one paragraph long, gave
no<BR>> references,<BR>>> and yet he, after many objections,
still stood by his<BR>> unsupported claims. <BR>> <BR>>
I don't have a specific memory of this exchange and I delete a heck of a
lot<BR>> of posts, but it doesn't surprise me. Most of the time
Gary shoots from the hip.<BR>> <BR>>> And then there is the
incivility, which for me places him beyond the<BR>> pale<BR>>>
with the Wilsonistas, whom he supports in a knee-jerk way.<BR>> <BR>>
Gary is boorish in cyberspace. Please avoid him whenever
possible. Also,<BR>> my read is that he doesn't support Wilsonistas
per se, although he does<BR>> challenge some of the more outlandish
claims made against Christ Churchers<BR>> and Doug Wilson on this list
and it's a good thing at least someone does.<BR>> <BR>>> Keep up
the good work, Ted.<BR>> <BR>> Ditto<BR>> <BR>>> Nick
Gier<BR>> <BR>> -Scott Dredge<BR>>
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