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The following was posted by Dr. Campbell on Nov 6, 2007:
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<dd>"I don't determine people's religious beliefs before I shop.
Give this up. I’m a
<dd>Christian, too, just like the Kirkers."<br>
<dd>"I happen to know of some businesses downtown that are owned by
Kirkers
<dd>and I do not frequent them."<br><br>
</dl>Hmmmmm! Must be divine intervention - or cognitive dissonance.
Perhaps someone willing to be prejudiced, as long as it doesn't require
too much effort.<br><br>
Nonetheless, all rather confusing.<br><br>
At 08:46 AM 11/18/2007, you wrote:<br>
<blockquote type=cite class=cite cite="">Paul,<br><br>
You are incorrectly describing Keely’s position and talking past
her.<br><br>
First, where does Keely say anything about boycotting Christ Church <br>
businesses? She is merely talking about her personal choice of where to
<br>
shop, which you note is her business.<br><br>
Second, I don't know of anyone who is critical of Christ Church
affiliated <br>
people merely because of their religious beliefs. Keely made this point
below <br>
but you ignore it.<br><br>
Third, how can you call the belief that slavery was OK a religious
belief? How <br>
can you call the belief that Islam is a religion of hate a religious
belief? I could go on.<br><br>
Fourth, please tell us what you think about some of the recent political
actions <br>
of members of Christ Church -- the sign suggesting that three candidates
are <br>
bigots, and Dale Courtney's involvement with an anti-levy ad, where he
used <br>
the name of a dead man instead of his own name. In light of these and
other <br>
actions, how can you continue to think that Christ Church is merely a
church?<br><br>
Best, Joe<br><br>
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Date: Sat, 17 Nov 2007 15:07:50 -0800<br>
From: Paul Rumelhart <godshatter@yahoo.com><br>
Subject: Re: [Vision2020] boycotting & religion<br>
To: keely emerinemix <kjajmix1@msn.com><br><br>
Keely,<br><br>
I don't like the idea of boycotting people based on their religious <br>
choices. You think that Doug Wilson is arrogant and evasive.
I can see <br>
that. They believe that he is helping them to interpret the Bible
and <br>
their religion in a way that they believe is true. Boycotting
people <br>
who believe this and tithe to the church *is* boycotting for religious
<br>
reasons. The fact that you find this particular religion more
odious <br>
than most is beside the point. I could care less about the 10% that
<br>
they give to the church. Why deny them the 90% you otherwise would
have <br>
given to them? <br><br>
You've made a choice to not give money to people who give a small amount
<br>
of it to Doug Wilson, and that's fine. Why urge others to do so en
<br>
masse? Let people make their own choices. My choice, for
example, is <br>
not to care what religion the people I do business with follow, nor what
<br>
the character of the people are that they give some of their money
to.<br><br>
I don't like the divide that is growing ever larger between the people
<br>
of this church and others in the community. I don't think it's
healthy <br>
for Moscow. I disagree with both the boycotting of Christ
Church-owned <br>
businesses and the practice that I've heard mentioned of Christ Church
<br>
members being urged to patronize only those same businesses.<br><br>
I disagree with their theology as much as or possibly even more than you
<br>
do. When it comes down to it, they are just a bunch of everyday
Joes <br>
trying to make a living. I propose going out of our way to welcome
them <br>
into the community, while holding an extremely firm line on forbidding
<br>
them to change any of our laws to favor the ideals of their church.
I <br>
propose this, actually, for people of all religions - not just Christ
<br>
Church members.<br><br>
Paul<br><br>
keely emerinemix wrote:<br>
><br>
> I've been reading some of the Daily News letters to the editor and
<br>
> comments from my letter regarding Francis Foucachon's objection to
<br>
> boycotts "based on religion." He is horrified by the
Christ Church <br>
> congregant-owned list, and it appears a lot of folks are angry about
<br>
> my publicly stating that I won't patronize businesses owned by Doug
<br>
> Wilson's followers. They call is "religious
bigotry." It isn't.<br>
><br>
> I would remind people that I am a Trinitarian, evangelical Christian
<br>
> with a high and conservative view of Scripture, so it certainly, in
<br>
> this case, isn't about Christ Church's religion. I care
absolutely <br>
> not at all about the religious beliefs, or lack thereof, of those
who <br>
> own businesses in our town. I care about their behavior, and
it is <br>
> properly called "behavior" to follow and support
financially a man who <br>
> has, in the name of the religion he and I both share, elevated <br>
> arrogance and evasion, not to mention prejudice, to an art
form. My <br>
> behavior in response to the behavior of following such a man?
I'll <br>
> act in a way that ensures that not a dime of my money goes to
support him.<br>
><br>
> It really is that simple. <br>
><br>
> keely<br><br>
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