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So you know it "works for Boise" how? Did anyone ever cover the before/after of their NO?<br><br>J :]<br><br><br>> Date: Fri, 9 Nov 2007 10:54:22 -0800<br>> From: garrettmc@verizon.net<br>> To: vision2020@moscow.com<br>> Subject: [Vision2020] New NO info...<br>> <br>> Donovan,<br>> <br>> This stated intent of the noise ordinance amendment,<br>> according the the police who wrote it, is to target<br>> repeat offenders, what they call "party houses" which<br>> comprise 17% of all noise complaints.<br>> <br>> That being the case, I am proposing language that<br>> specfies what those offenses are: loud music during<br>> the night. (yelling and the like are covered by our<br>> current NO)<br>> <br>> Living around other people, I don't think it is<br>> realistic to expect no "noise" at all times. But if<br>> you are bothered, you still have the right to complain<br>> and those people face being cited.<br>> <br>> I am a light sleeper and have discovered "white noise"<br>> is an incredible sleep aid. I use a fan and it blocks<br>> out much random noise that otherwise would wake me.<br>> <br>> If the noise ordinance I provided a link to works for<br>> Boise, our state capital, it seems like it is a good<br>> model to use. The text I provided can either<br>> suplement our current NO, or be a framework to build<br>> around.<br>> <br>> Many of the other noise issues you brought up are<br>> covered by our current NO, so I did not address them. <br>> Barking dogs is covered in another section.<br>> <br>> For those who want to see our current NO, it is here:<br>> <br>> http://www.ci.moscow.id.us/citycode/TITLE10/chapter11.pdf<br>> <br>> --- Donovan Arnold <donovanjarnold2005@yahoo.com><br>> wrote:<br>> <br>> > Garrett,<br>> > <br>> > One of the reasons I dislike the time frame is<br>> > that it seems to be saying it is OK to disrupt the<br>> > sleep of those that work graveyard, but not OK to<br>> > disrupt the 9-5 ers. Having worked graveyard before,<br>> > I don't like this wording. <br>> > <br>> > This ordinance also doesn't address lawnmowers,<br>> > barking dogs, crying babies, noisy children, loud<br>> > singing, and automobiles, all of which can be very<br>> > disturbing. <br>> > <br>> > Boise does also have a provision regarding the<br>> > behavior of barking dogs. <br>> > <br>> > Best,<br>> > <br>> > Donovan<br>> > <br>> > Garrett Clevenger <garrettmc@verizon.net> wrote:<br>> > No new NOers,<br>> > <br>> > I received an informative email from Linda Pall and<br>> > we<br>> > may be on our way to finding reasonable language.<br>> > She<br>> > spoke with Judge Hamlett, who pointed her towards<br>> > Boise's Noise Ordinace:<br>> > <br>> ><br>> http://www.cityofboise.org/Departments/City_Clerk/PDF/CityCode/Title6/0620.pdf<br>> > <br>> > Basically, it make's this illegal:<br>> > <br>> > LOUD AMPLIFICATION DEVICE: <br>> > Any equipment designed or used for sound production,<br>> > reproduction, or amplification, including, but not<br>> > limited to any radio, television, phonograph,<br>> > musical<br>> > instrument, stereo, tape player, compact disc<br>> > player,<br>> > loud speaker, public address (P.A.) system, sound <br>> > amplifier, or comparable sound broadcasting device. <br>> > <br>> > <br>> > if this occurs:<br>> > <br>> > A. is plainly audible within any place of residence<br>> > not the source of the sound, or, <br>> > <br>> > B. is plainly audible upon a public right-of-way or<br>> > street at a distance of one hundred (100) feet or<br>> > more<br>> > from the source of such sound. <br>> > <br>> > <br>> > I could live with similar language of this<br>> > ordinance.<br>> > For our NO, I'd like to add:<br>> > <br>> > 1 month warning period<br>> > Police can issue ticket without complaint between<br>> > hours of 10pm and 7am <br>> > Neighbors have to complain outside of the above time<br>> > frame<br>> > <br>> > I've added >>> BOLDED TEXT <<< to the Boise code to<br>> > clear this up:<br>> > <br>> > <br>> > Section 6-20-04 ENFORCEMENT <br>> > <br>> > A. Peace officer citation. >>> DURING HOURS BETWEEN<br>> > 10 P.M. AND 7 A.M. <<< Any >>>MOSCOW<<< City peace<br>> > officer or person empowered to enforce this<br>> > provision<br>> > of the >>>MOSCOW<<< City Code is authorized to issue<br>> > a<br>> > uniform citation upon his own observation of a<br>> > violation without the necessity of a citizen<br>> > complainant's signature on said citation >>AFTER<br>> > FIRST<br>> > ISSUING 1 WARNING TO OFFENDER AND OFFENDER REPEATS<br>> > VIOLATION WITHIN 1 MONTH PERIOD <<<. By signing the<br>> > citation officer or person is certifying that he has<br>> > reasonable grounds to believe that the person cited <br>> > committed the offense contrary to law. <br>> > <br>> > B. Citizen citation. A uniform citation may also be<br>> > signed <br>> > by any citizen or person in whose presence an<br>> > alleged <br>> > violation of this Ordinance occurred and be<br>> > witnessed<br>> > by a <br>> > >>>MOSCOW<<< City peace officer or person empowered<br>> > to<br>> > enforce <br>> > this provision of the >>>MOSCOW<<< City Code whose<br>> > name shall be <br>> > endorsed on the citation >>AFTER FIRST ISSUING 1<br>> > WARNING TO OFFENDER AND OFFENDER REPEATS VIOLATION<br>> > WITHIN 1 MONTH PERIOD <<<<br>> > <br>> > <br>> > That seems reasonable to me. What do you think?<br>> <br>> =======================================================<br>> List services made available by First Step Internet, <br>> serving the communities of the Palouse since 1994. <br>> http://www.fsr.net <br>> mailto:Vision2020@moscow.com<br>> =======================================================<br><br /><hr />Boo! Scare away worms, viruses and so much more! 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