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<DIV><FONT face=Arial>Thank you for your insight and sage advise. </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial>g</FONT></DIV>
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<A title=privatejf32@hotmail.com href="mailto:privatejf32@hotmail.com">J
Ford</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A title=vision2020@moscow.com
href="mailto:vision2020@moscow.com">vision2020@moscow.com</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Cc:</B> <A title=jampot@roadrunner.com
href="mailto:jampot@roadrunner.com">g. crabtree</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Friday, November 02, 2007 10:50
AM</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> RE: [Vision2020] The BLog and
More Political Contributions</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>GAWD!! Isn't it amazing how you open each and every reply
with something along the line of "I think you're not reading what I
wrote". Get a clue, dude. Either you are that hard to read (VERY
possible) or you are doing the kirker-shuffle - "Distract and blame them for
not getting it."<BR><BR>J :]<BR><BR><BR>
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From: <A
href="mailto:jampot@roadrunner.com">jampot@roadrunner.com</A><BR>To: <A
href="mailto:suehovey@moscow.com">suehovey@moscow.com</A>; <A
href="mailto:donovanjarnold2005@yahoo.com">donovanjarnold2005@yahoo.com</A>;
<A href="mailto:the_ivies3@yahoo.com">the_ivies3@yahoo.com</A>; <A
href="mailto:vision2020@moscow.com">vision2020@moscow.com</A>; <A
href="mailto:areaman@moscow.com">areaman@moscow.com</A>;
wdkrauss@clearwire.net; wmsteed@aol.com<BR>Date: Fri, 2 Nov 2007 06:05:33
-0700<BR>Subject: Re: [Vision2020] The BLog and More Political
Contributions<BR><BR>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Ms. Hovey</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>I think that you are reading things into my
post that weren't there and overlooking some of what was. My point is
that I think that Dan would go the extra mile to try and create solutions
that would satisfy people from your end of the spectrum as well as mine.
Fortunately for me, I have never had need for his professional assistance
but I'm sure you are right, in spite of my opinions he would almost
certainly help me anyway. Thank God.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>g</FONT></DIV>
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<A title=suehovey@moscow.com href="mailto:suehovey@moscow.com">Sue
Hovey</A> </DIV>
<DIV
style="FONT: 10pt arial; font-size-adjust: none; font-stretch: normal"><B>To:</B>
<A title=jampot@roadrunner.com href="mailto:jampot@roadrunner.com">g.
crabtree</A> ; <A title=donovanjarnold2005@yahoo.com
href="mailto:donovanjarnold2005@yahoo.com">Donovan Arnold</A> ; <A
title=the_ivies3@yahoo.com href="mailto:the_ivies3@yahoo.com">Tom Ivie</A>
; <A title=vision2020@moscow.com
href="mailto:vision2020@moscow.com">Moscow Vision 2020</A> ; <A
title=areaman@moscow.com href="mailto:areaman@moscow.com">Dan
Carscallen</A> ; <A title=wdkrauss@clearwire.net
href="mailto:wdkrauss@clearwire.net">wdkrauss@clearwire.net</A> ; <A
title=wmsteed@aol.com href="mailto:wmsteed@aol.com">wmsteed@aol.com</A>
</DIV>
<DIV
style="FONT: 10pt arial; font-size-adjust: none; font-stretch: normal"><B>Sent:</B>
Thursday, November 01, 2007 8:58 PM</DIV>
<DIV
style="FONT: 10pt arial; font-size-adjust: none; font-stretch: normal"><B>Subject:</B>
Re: [Vision2020] The BLog and More Political Contributions</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Mr. Crabtree,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Perhaps you could quote the passage from my
posting which indicates I am not giving him my consideration. And
while you are doing that you might quote the passage in which I ask Dan to
condemn Mr. Glasebrook. I did not ask that. I said I was
disappointed he did not condemn the sign. The pronoun "it" refers to
inantimate objects. I never refer to people as "it", not even Dr.
Weitz. </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>I happen to like Dan a lot. And I am
grateful to him for his contributions to the community. I have a
feeling he never considers a person's goodness, or political affiliation
before he decides to try to save them. The fact that he tried
diligently to keep you among the living proves my point, doesn't it?
</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Sue </FONT></DIV>
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<A title=jampot@roadrunner.com href="mailto:jampot@roadrunner.com">g.
crabtree</A> </DIV>
<DIV
style="FONT: 10pt arial; font-size-adjust: none; font-stretch: normal"><B>To:</B>
<A title=suehovey@moscow.com href="mailto:suehovey@moscow.com">Sue
Hovey</A> ; <A title=donovanjarnold2005@yahoo.com
href="mailto:donovanjarnold2005@yahoo.com">Donovan Arnold</A> ; <A
title=the_ivies3@yahoo.com href="mailto:the_ivies3@yahoo.com">Tom
Ivie</A> ; <A title=vision2020@moscow.com
href="mailto:vision2020@moscow.com">Moscow Vision 2020</A> ; <A
title=areaman@moscow.com href="mailto:areaman@moscow.com">Dan
Carscallen</A> ; <A title=wdkrauss@clearwire.net
href="mailto:wdkrauss@clearwire.net">wdkrauss@clearwire.net</A> ; <A
title=wmsteed@aol.com href="mailto:wmsteed@aol.com">wmsteed@aol.com</A>
</DIV>
<DIV
style="FONT: 10pt arial; font-size-adjust: none; font-stretch: normal"><B>Sent:</B>
Thursday, November 01, 2007 6:45 PM</DIV>
<DIV
style="FONT: 10pt arial; font-size-adjust: none; font-stretch: normal"><B>Subject:</B>
Re: [Vision2020] The BLog and More Political Contributions</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Ms. Hovey,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Regarding Dan Carscallen's comment
regarding Mr. Glasebrooks sign. Wouldn't an outright condemnation
be little different than taking the man to task for exercising his
right to express his opinion in public? Whether you agree or not there
is no question but what Mr. Glasebrook truly believes that the
candidates in question are bigoted toward his church. I would think that
reasonable people could disagree without having to demand they
condemn him. I don't remember any call for condemnation for letter
writer's who went to the fanatical extreme of expressing the
opinion that Dr. Weitz hates kids. But I suppose that
was a different, more intimate ox being gored in that
instance.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>One thing I do know is that in a medical
emergency I would be incredibly pleased to see Dan's face as
he dropped everything to do his absolute level best to keep me
among the living as, I suspect, would you. If we're willing to trust him
that far how much more of a stretch is it to trust him with a council
seat? I believe that he'll look for the compromise that would
make both of us equally mad as well as evenly pleased and devote the
same competence to deciding matters of city business that he does to his
other vital activities. Please give him your
consideration.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>g</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV
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<A title=suehovey@moscow.com href="mailto:suehovey@moscow.com">Sue
Hovey</A> </DIV>
<DIV
style="FONT: 10pt arial; font-size-adjust: none; font-stretch: normal"><B>To:</B>
<A title=donovanjarnold2005@yahoo.com
href="mailto:donovanjarnold2005@yahoo.com">Donovan Arnold</A> ; <A
title=the_ivies3@yahoo.com href="mailto:the_ivies3@yahoo.com">Tom
Ivie</A> ; <A title=vision2020@moscow.com
href="mailto:vision2020@moscow.com">Moscow Vision 2020</A> ; <A
title=areaman@moscow.com href="mailto:areaman@moscow.com">Dan
Carscallen</A> ; <A title=wdkrauss@clearwire.net
href="mailto:wdkrauss@clearwire.net">wdkrauss@clearwire.net</A> ; <A
title=wmsteed@aol.com
href="mailto:wmsteed@aol.com">wmsteed@aol.com</A> </DIV>
<DIV
style="FONT: 10pt arial; font-size-adjust: none; font-stretch: normal"><B>Sent:</B>
Thursday, November 01, 2007 3:51 PM</DIV>
<DIV
style="FONT: 10pt arial; font-size-adjust: none; font-stretch: normal"><B>Subject:</B>
Re: [Vision2020] The BLog and More Political Contributions</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Exactly. But the source of
that money is also a strong indicator of the values held by
their supporters. And that's why taking money from John
Ficca is a clear indication of the regard one has for the rights of
employees. They might not have known about his past when
they accepted it, but they know now and whether they keep it or
return it is key to their own values. If they decide to return
it, then they need to make a public statement to that effect.
Otherwise, how would we know in time to vote for them?</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>An important issue, to me, is the request
by the police to form a union. They were denied that opportunity
last year. I want to elect candidates who will not deny that
request again. Those who would overlook John Ficca's behavior
might well be disinclined to allow the police effort, as well.
</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>As I have been involved in the debates
among the candidates, I really have come to feel that electing all the
council members from either MCA or GMA might not serve us as well as
electing candidates from both groups. At this time, I am
convinced to vote for Aaron Ament. I am still trying to
determine where my other votes will go. I had intended to make
support for the school levy re-run a determining variable, but I am
convinced all the candidates support that effort. Evan Holmes,
Dan Carscallen, and Aaron Ament have not only voiced their support,
they have written articulately of that support. Wayne Krauss
also has a long history of supporting Moscow Public
Schools. </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>The word of the candidates in
response to the Christ Church representative, Dave Glasebrook, and the
malicious sign he carried, are also significant. I was
particularly bothered by the statement from Dan Carscallen, "I don't
condone it, but I guess I don't condemn it, either." And pray,
why not? It would seem to me that any posturing from a person
filled with all that invective would compel one to
condemn it. And coming on the heels of Shelly Bennett's letter
which carried the same message, I think one can expect antics such as
these to continue. </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>One thing, though, through all of this
the candidates have comported themselves with the level of civility
one has a right to expect of people running for public office.
They have all done well by us. I am sure that by election day, I
will cast my vote with confidence in those who receive it.
</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>I would have sent this letter to the
Daily News and Lewiston Tribune, but my allocation of letters to the
editor was already expended through my effort to support the levy
re-run. </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Sue Hovey</FONT></DIV>
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<A title=donovanjarnold2005@yahoo.com
href="mailto:donovanjarnold2005@yahoo.com">Donovan Arnold</A> </DIV>
<DIV
style="FONT: 10pt arial; font-size-adjust: none; font-stretch: normal"><B>To:</B>
<A title=the_ivies3@yahoo.com href="mailto:the_ivies3@yahoo.com">Tom
Ivie</A> ; <A title=vision2020@moscow.com
href="mailto:vision2020@moscow.com">Moscow Vision 2020</A> </DIV>
<DIV
style="FONT: 10pt arial; font-size-adjust: none; font-stretch: normal"><B>Sent:</B>
Wednesday, October 31, 2007 9:50 PM</DIV>
<DIV
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Re: [Vision2020] The BLog and More Political Contributions</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>
<DIV>Tom I.,</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>I don't think money wins an election. But it is the strongest
indicator of what kind of support a candidate has in the
community.</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>Best,</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>Donovan <BR><BR><B><I>Tom Ivie <<A
href="mailto:the_ivies3@yahoo.com">the_ivies3@yahoo.com</A>></I></B>
wrote:</DIV>
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style="PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: rgb(16,16,255) 2px solid">Nothing
is ever certain in horse races or politics. All the money in
the world doesn't win an election. It does help
though. Send your checks to...<BR><BR><B><I>Donovan Arnold
<<A
href="mailto:donovanjarnold2005@yahoo.com">donovanjarnold2005@yahoo.com</A>></I></B>
wrote:
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<DIV>I cannot wait to see who wins the third seat for the four
year term. I really think it looks like Tom Lamar, Wayne
Krauss, and Dan Carscallen are going to be fighting for the last
two seats. I think Aaron Ament with a big load a cash,
incumbency, and being liberal in a liberal town is definitely
going to place in the top three. I am also certain that Walter
Steed will win.</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>Best,</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>Donovan<BR><BR><B><I>Tom Ivie
<the_ivies3@yahoo.com></I></B> wrote:</DIV>
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style="PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: rgb(16,16,255) 2px solid">One
person contributed $4,000 to a city election? What are we,
Boise or Seattle? or is that what they want us to
be? What does one person have to gain by providing so
much money in a little race? like ours? Nothing
against the candidates though, good for them to have a big
spending benefactor. <BR><BR><B><I>Tom Hansen
<thansen@moscow.com></I></B> wrote:
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style="PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: rgb(16,16,255) 2px solid">>From
Dale Courtney's blog
at:<BR><BR>http://right-mind.us/blogs/blog_0/archive/2007/10/31/55739.aspx<BR><BR>------------------------------------------<BR><BR>"Hey,
Big Spender <BR><BR>I have a copy of all of the City Council
Candidates' Campaign Financial<BR>Disclosure Reports.
<BR><BR>I'll post them shortly. <BR><BR>Of interest is how
much money the candidates have received. <BR><BR>Aaron
Ament: $9,475 <BR>Tom Lamar: $8,817 <BR>Walter Steed: $6,936
<BR>Wayne Krauss: $6,135 <BR>Dan Carscallen: $4,545
<BR>Linda Pall: $3,910 <BR>Evan Holmes: $1,992<BR>Bill
London accuses the GMA candidates of being the "big
spending" group. <BR><BR>Seems like most of the money is
being funneled to the liberal candidates. <BR><BR>If money
is any indication, the libs have their bets set on Ament.
<BR><BR>Heaven help
us."<BR><BR>------------------------------------------<BR><BR>Although
it is important to learn how much money has been contributed
to<BR>each candidate, it is vitally more important to learn
from where that money<BR>was contributed.<BR><BR>Your
attention is invited to the Financial Disclosure reports
located
at:<BR><BR>http://www.MoscowElection2007.com<BR><BR>A review
of the Financial Disclosure Reports submitted by Dan
Carscallen,<BR>Walter Steed, Wayne Krauss, and the Greater
Moscow Alliance Political Action<BR>Committee reflects
contributions in the amount of $1,000 to each of
the<BR>aforementioned by Palouse Rental and
Construction.<BR><BR>Who is Palouse Rental and Construction
you ask?<BR><BR>As mentioned earlier by Mark Solomon in an
earlier posting
at:<BR><BR>http://mailman.fsr.com/pipermail/vision2020/2007-October/049113.html<BR><BR>"As
I'm always interested in who is contributing big $$ in
elections, I<BR>looked it up and saw Palouse Rentals and
Construction had donated $1000 to<BR>GMA. Maybe I'm just out
of the loop, but I did not know that name. A quick<BR>search
on the Sec'y of State website gives up John Ficca as the
president of<BR>the corporation, which, by the way, has been
administratively dissolved by<BR>the Sec'y of State for
failure to file annual reports since 2004."<BR><BR>It
appears that this defunct company is/was headed by John
Ficca, who back<BR>in 2000 . .
.<BR><BR>http://www.lni.wa.gov/news/2000/pr000214a.asp<BR><BR>"TUMWATER
- An Idaho employer must pay more than $95,000 in unpaid
wages to<BR>12 current and former employees in the Spokane
area according to a<BR>settlement agreement announced today
by the Department of Labor and<BR>Industries.<BR><BR>John
Ficca, of Moscow, Idaho, owner of Art's Electric, Inc., also
has been<BR>permanently prohibited from bidding on or
performing work on future public<BR>works projects in
Washington. Ficca also does business as Palouse
Country<BR>Electric and U Cities Contracting."<BR><BR>It
appears that perhaps the state of Idaho may be interested in
the business<BR>posture of "Palouse Rental and Construction"
as it makes political<BR>contributions to a select few
(Steed, Krauss, and Carscallen) of Moscow's<BR>city council
candidates.<BR><BR>One can only wonder how Moscow will be
divvied up . . . er . . . uh . . . I<BR>mean rezoned come
January if Palouse Rental and Construction should
gain<BR>three seats on our city council.<BR><BR>Things that
make you go . . .<BR><BR>Hmmm. <BR><BR>Seeya round town,
Moscow.<BR><BR>Tom Hansen<BR>Moscow, Idaho<BR><BR>"We're a
town of about 23,000 with 10,000 college students. The
college<BR>students are not very active in local elections
(thank goodness!)."<BR><BR>- Dale Courtney (March 28,
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