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<DIV><FONT face=Arial>Before you go asking others whether they agree with
B.J.'s statement, why don't you first get clarification on what BJ meant by
"the economic model that no longer works". The quote you reference
does not say what that economic model is. How can anyone possibly agree or
disagree with the statement, without first getting an understanding of what she
meant by "economic model that no longer works"?</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial>And then, once we know what that statement meant, why
don't we go to all the candidates and find out if they agree with
it?</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial>And while we're at it, at that point of going back to the
candidates to see if the agree with BJ that whatever economic model she is
talking about has failed or not, why don't we also ask them their response
to what seem the more interesting questions to me, as posed by Steffen
Werner:</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial></FONT>How much oversight should the community,
represented by the city council, have over proposed business
development? </DIV>
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<DIV>Should this be relatively unfettered with very lax oversight, or
should it increase oversight if a development might have a large impact
on the community? </DIV></BLOCKQUOTE>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial>Bruce</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial></FONT> </DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial>----- Original Message ----- </FONT>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial>From: "Jeff Harkins" <</FONT><A
href="mailto:jeffh@moscow.com"><FONT face=Arial>jeffh@moscow.com</FONT></A><FONT
face=Arial>></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial>To: "Sunil Ramalingam" <</FONT><A
href="mailto:sunilramalingam@hotmail.com"><FONT
face=Arial>sunilramalingam@hotmail.com</FONT></A><FONT face=Arial>>;
<</FONT><A href="mailto:vision2020@moscow.com"><FONT
face=Arial>vision2020@moscow.com</FONT></A><FONT face=Arial>></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial>Sent: Wednesday, October 31, 2007 10:25 AM</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial>Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Leadership</FONT></DIV></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial><BR></FONT></DIV><FONT face=Arial>> Sunil,<BR>>
<BR>> Thanks for the post.<BR>> <BR>> If you want to know about a
candidate's position on waterboarding, <BR>> etc., then you are well within
your rights and political protocol to <BR>> ask that question of a local
candidate.<BR>> <BR>> I reject the notion that we should restrict our
candidates to <BR>> "relevant" subjects they've already brought up. We
sponsor and enjoy <BR>> candidate forums in our community precisely because
the audience can <BR>> raise issues of importance to them.<BR>> <BR>>
What I find fascinating about the responses to my posts back to Ms. <BR>>
Swanson is that the issue was raised because she claimed:<BR>> <BR>> "It
seems that Jeff Harkins and the conservative candidates continue <BR>> to
advocate an economic model that no longer works - (B. J. Swanson, <BR>> Oct.
30, 2007)"<BR>> <BR>> My response was well within relevance and protocol
for our local <BR>> election. I await a response from Mr. Ament, Ms.
Pall, Mr. Lamar and <BR>> Mr. Holmes. One of their supporters raised the
issue.<BR>> <BR>> Is she their spokeswoman on economic policy for the
local level?<BR>> <BR>> At 06:03 AM 10/31/2007, you wrote:<BR>>>If
we're going to turn this into a 'wrap ourselves in the flag' exercise
and<BR>>>launch into irrlelevancies not yet raised by the candidates
themselves, then<BR>>>I want to know where they all come down on
waterboarding, permanent<BR>>>detentions, the suspension of habeus corpus,
secret prisons, and the war in<BR>>>Iraq.<BR>>><BR>>>Or we can
let the candidates discuss the relevant subjects they've
already<BR>>>brought
up.<BR>>><BR>>>Sunil<BR>>><BR>>><BR>>> >From:
Steffen Werner <</FONT><A href="mailto:swerner@uidaho.edu"><FONT
face=Arial>swerner@uidaho.edu</FONT></A><FONT face=Arial>><BR>>>
>To: </FONT><A href="mailto:vision2020@moscow.com"><FONT
face=Arial>vision2020@moscow.com</FONT></A><BR><FONT face=Arial>>>
>Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Leadership<BR>>> >Date: Wed, 31 Oct 2007
05:10:40 -0700<BR>>> ><BR>>> >I don't think that a discussion
of basic economic theory is what will<BR>>> >move this discussion
forward to a constructive and meaningful<BR>>> >exchange about local
issues. BJ unfortunately started her post with<BR>>> >a general
statement that Jeff then responded to scholarly - but<BR>>>
>unfortunately this focus is missing the main point that followed
in<BR>>> >BJ's post. I think all of the candidates running for
office in this<BR>>> >local election (and probably most around this
country) have no<BR>>> >objections to our basic economic principle of a
free market economy.<BR>>> >The candidates also all share the same
sense of duty when it comes to<BR>>> >making payroll (Tom has quite a
few people working for him, none of<BR>>> >whom have filed complaints
against him for not doing so - Linda the<BR>>> >same). So - the
real issue in this context is a rather small one<BR>>> >given the big
issues raised (and probably not worthy of a Nobel, but<BR>>> >still
relevant here in Moscow): How much oversight should the<BR>>>
>community, represented by the city council, have over proposed<BR>>>
>business development? Should this be relatively unfettered with
very<BR>>> >lax oversight, or should it increase oversight if a
development might<BR>>> >have a large impact on the community? I
think that this is a<BR>>> >reasonable discussion to have - and neither
side of this discussion<BR>>> >is anti or any growth automatically just
by preferring one over the<BR>>> >other. Coming from a system
(Germany) where there is a lot more<BR>>> >oversight and zoning
restrictions than here, I find some of the<BR>>> >recently voiced
positions quite baffling. If probed I can give some<BR>>>
>interesting examples in another post. So - why don't we focus on
the<BR>>> >local issue at hand, instead of going off on a tangent (even
though<BR>>> >that might make for better sound bites)<BR>>>
>Steffen<BR>>> >--<BR>>> >Dr. Steffen Werner, Associate
Professor<BR>>> >Dept. of Psychology and Communication
Studies<BR>>> >University of Idaho<BR>>> >Moscow, ID
83844-3043<BR>>> ><BR>>>
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