[From nobody Sun Oct 28 09:41:09 2007 Received: from pmail2c8.megamailservers.com ([69.49.106.133]) by mail.turbonet.com (Cactus Mail Server v9.0.0) with ESMTP id HAH24905 for <jeanlivingston@turbonet.com>; Sun, 28 Oct 2007 09:05:05 -0700 Received: from pmail2c8.megamailservers.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pmail2c8.megamailservers.com (8.13.6.20060614/8.13.1) with ESMTP id l9SG52IT016810 for <jeanlivingston@turbonet.com>; Sun, 28 Oct 2007 12:05:03 -0400 Received: (from Unknown UID 600@localhost) by pmail2c8.megamailservers.com (8.13.6.20060614/8.12.2/Submit) id l9SG52nO016809 for jeanlivingston@turbonet.com; Sun, 28 Oct 2007 12:05:02 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: pmail2c8.megamailservers.com: Unknown UID 600 set sender to wdkrauss@clearwire.net using -f Received: from 74-60-60-133.lew.clearwire-dns.net (74-60-60-133.lew.clearwire-dns.net [74.60.60.133]) by email.clearwire.net (Webmail 2.0) with HTTP for <wdkrauss.clearwire.net@email.clearwire.net>; Sun, 28 Oct 2007 12:05:02 -0400 Message-ID: <20071028120502.4zrnhuvfr480s04c@email.clearwire.net> Date: Sun, 28 Oct 2007 12:05:02 -0400 From: "Wayne Krauss" <wdkrauss@clearwire.net> To: jeanlivingston <jeanlivingston@turbonet.com> Subject: Re: Fw: Re: [Vision2020] real economic development in Moscow References: <49fbb7532fe3d4bf01e92bf99b15a320@turbonet.com> In-Reply-To: <49fbb7532fe3d4bf01e92bf99b15a320@turbonet.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format="flowed" Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit User-Agent: Webmail 4.0 X-Spam-Status: No, hits=1.10 required=5.00 tests=BAYES_00=-0.11, MR_NOT_ATTRIBUTED_IP=0.20, NO_RDNS2=0.01, MR_DIFF_MID=1.00 version=3.2.1 X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.1 (1.0) on mail.turbonet.com Quoting jeanlivingston <jeanlivingston@turbonet.com>: > > > Wayne, I brought you into a discussion on vision2020, and I'm > sending it to you, so you can see it and have a chance to respond if > you want, but I just got fired up over a bunch of issues that Jeff > Harkins is pushing on vision2020 as essentially "bad decisions by > council" that we are all suposed to recall when deciding how to > vote. And of course, I didn't agree very much, and threw out my > contrary take for all to see, opposing Jeff. Anyway, at the end I > said to Jeff, basically "you're Krauss' treasurer. How many of > these so-called bad decisions of council, that we are supposed to > recall, does he think were wrong?" > > So I wasn't suggesting that you necessarily agreed with Jeff on all > the things that Jeff thought was bad, but I was wondering if you > did. I don't know if you monitor vision2020, but if you don't, I > thought I'd let you know. I am curious on how much agreement you > share with Jeff on the issues in the posts below. If you scroll to > the bottom, you'll see his post, and mine follows, above it. > > Bruce Livingston > > > > > Bruce, thank you for allowing me to respond to your letter. The discussion between Jeff and Joe Campbell has to do with things that have happened in the past and I prefer to look to the future. I will remark on a couple of the items. First of all, let me state that Jeff is my treasurer, not my advisor. His opinions are his own and do not always mirror my own. I think that the whole issue of the ice rink got way out of hand. This could have been handled between the various agencies without the threat of shutting down the ice rink and counter law suits. This is a case where people should have sat down, agreed they had a problem, identified the solutions and acted on them. This finally happened, but there was a lot of pain in the mean time. I very much want to see a full size ice rink in a permanent location. I do think the City has been in error in some of the discussion of development in Whitman County. This is especially true when Mayor Chaney stated that James Toyota should not be allowed to relocate in the corridor because that type of business did not fit her vision. Unless the City is ready to spend a substantial amount of money on prevention and enforcement, it should not establish unenforceable ordinances, such as banning weapons from City property. As Linda said at the League of Women Voters forum, the City has ruled on the Third Street Bridge. If it comes up again, I will look at the traffic and engineering data, listen to all concerned comments and make a decision I feel best benefits the entire City. Bruce, as I stated in my previous letter to you, I do not subscribe to and very seldom monitor V2020 because of the demeaning and rude responses by persons hiding behind an unknown identity. My parents raised me to respect different opinions, no matter how much they differ from my own. At the risk of being slayed by the written word, I give permission to you to post my comments on V2020. I only ask that you post all of my commentary. Thank You, Wayne Krauss]