<DIV>I think Ms. Kraut presents a false dilemma. </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>"Either we can trust our officers to make a judgment call or we should just get rid of them. What cha' think?"</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>I think the we can trust are officers while at the same time limiting their power and authority by giving them clear instructions on what those powers and authorities are. </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>No disrespect to our fine men and women in uniform, but I am not going to relinquish all power and authority of my rights and others for the sake of expedience and convenience of a government authority. </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Let's give the police just enough authority to do their jobs safely and effectively, but no more. </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Best,</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Donovan<BR><BR><B><I>pkraut@moscow.com</I></B> wrote:</DIV> <BLOCKQUOTE class=replbq style="PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT:
#1010ff 2px solid">So are the cops going to ride around with a meter that measures the sound <BR>level?? Or are you going to take their word for the noise or from the <BR>neighbors? I think some of you are making this much harder than it needs <BR>to be. Either we can trust our officers to make a judgement call or we <BR>should just get rid of them. What cha' think?<BR>> Tom,<BR>> <BR>> I don't disagree with what you have said about being a considerate <BR>neighbor. <BR>> But I do think there should be a specific sound limit, and one should <BR>only <BR>> be cited for exceeding that limit. It should not be up to the officer's <BR>> discretion.<BR>> <BR>> Sunil<BR>> <BR>> <BR>> >From: Tom Ivie <THE_IVIES3@YAHOO.COM><BR>> >To: vision2020@moscow.com<BR>> >Subject: Re: [Vision2020] noise ordinance<BR>> >Date: Sun, 28 Oct 2007 00:22:46 -0700 (PDT)<BR>> ><BR>> >I think a compromise can be made on the noise
ordinance. How about <BR>> >limiting it to noise after a certain time, say 10:00pm. I doubt that <BR>> >someone who respects a neighborhood and being neighborly will blatantly <BR>be <BR>> >disrespectful to neighbors after that time. If they do, cite them. <BR>Maybe <BR>> >even go as far as involving alcohol, that tends to create more problems <BR>at <BR>> >times like beer cans/bottles in neighbors yards/broken in the street, <BR>along <BR>> >with the yelling/singing of "DAYO" at 11:30pm while the neighborhood <BR>kids <BR>> >are in bed trying to sleep (along with most of the parents). I <BR>personally <BR>> >have a problem with someone that leaves a half or even quarter empty <BR>beer <BR>> >can next to my curb for my 4 yr old to find by accident -not cool. I <BR>don't <BR>> >have a problem with someone honking their horn obnoxiously (well maybe <BR>a <BR>> >little -just being honest) in the daytime but at
11:30 at night because <BR>> >they are too lazy to go to the door that is 30 ft away -I have a <BR>problem <BR>> >with that. Then after drinking<BR>> > at the house/apt. the whole crew piles into cars to hit the bars and <BR>I <BR>> >hope and pray that is all they hit -All I can say is that I hope they <BR>have <BR>> >a designated driver. It is about being a responsible, considerate, and <BR>> >respectful neighbor.<BR>> ><BR>> >Tom & Liz Ivie<BR>> > __________________________________________________<BR>> >Do You Yahoo!?<BR>> >Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around<BR>> >http://mail.yahoo.com<BR>> <BR>> <BR>> >=======================================================<BR>> > List services made available by First Step Internet,<BR>> > serving the communities of the Palouse since 1994.<BR>> > http://www.fsr.net<BR>> >
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