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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Donovan,</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Certainly your grandfather Lee was right on the
mark with his statement about Moscow and everyone knowing who one is and who one
is.....</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>And you are probably right on the mark about the
bath pillow, so I'm taking your word for it, but I will respond to one of your
statements because it is very important to me.</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>You mentioned having children with disabilities and
Moscow not offering what they need. Well as you probably know, I can speak
to that one in spades. One of the reasons we have never considered living
anywhere else is because of our daughter, who grew up here knowing almost
everyone, was and is cared for and protected by the citizens of this
city. </FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>She was one of the first to go through the Moscow
Schools under the provisions of the Idaho Law for special education, which
predated the federal law by a few years. It wasn't always easy for her or
the school district as she moved from elementary school through the high
school, but I feel the special education program which now begins with
preschool and continues through age 21 could legitimately be named for
her. One of the reasons I am so angry with Gerry Weitz and his lackeys is
because we, too, fought with the school district through those times, and
even threatened to involve state and federal officials, but never, ever would we
have done anything to harm the other students. And the program that was a
result of our (and Leslie's) struggle continues to benefit those who are
enrolled.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>She continues to thrive here. </FONT><FONT
face=Arial size=2>She has been an employee at Rosauers for about a decade--a
place where she feels valued. When she messes up her computer, the
fellows at VGH fix it for her, and laugh about the fact that at least she
doesn't download porn. She loves Vandal basketball and attends the home
games with Judy and Tom Morris. She gets good medical care right here
in Moscow. Her service providers who work through the Department of
Health and Welfare and the University of Idaho know her as a person and not a
case number. </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Leslie is representative of a large group of
people with disabilities who have chosen to live in Moscow because they like
living here and the other residents welcome them. And
that's despite the fact that in almost any other state the funding
is better for people with special needs than it is in
Idaho. </FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>And Spokane isn't a big city. Hummmmm.
I guess big is a relative term. It continues to be the second largest
city in Washington State, and in a comparison with Moscow--well
I won't give you that point, but the bath pillow, it's yours.
</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Sue H.</FONT></DIV>
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<A title=donovanjarnold2005@yahoo.com
href="mailto:donovanjarnold2005@yahoo.com">Donovan Arnold</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A title=suehovey@moscow.com
href="mailto:suehovey@moscow.com">Sue Hovey</A> ; <A
title=vision2020@moscow.com href="mailto:vision2020@moscow.com">v2020</A>
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Wednesday, October 24, 2007 10:47
PM</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: [Vision2020] real economic
development in Moscow</DIV>
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<DIV>Sue,</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>I think you will find as I did, that a foam pillow for a bathtub would
quickly mold. I find the selection of low calorie and sugar free foods in
Moscow limited and more expensive than a larger city. </DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>Yes Sue, your basic needs may be meet in Moscow, but many others are not.
What if you had a child with a heart murmur, or was Autistic? What if you are
a college student with $40,000 in debt and your degree is in a field that does
not have any jobs or internships in Moscow?</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>There are many things that Moscow does not offer, particularly for those
with a need to make more than $35,000 a year and don't have a teaching
certificate. The average household income in Latah is less than $35,000.</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>My Grandfather, Leeland G. Connelly, use to say, "The good thing about
Moscow is that everyone knows who you are, and the the bad thing about Moscow
is that everyone knows who you are."</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>I guess it depends on how you look at things, what you value most, what
your needs are, and at what stage you are at in life.</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>Best,</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>Donovan</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>PS, Spokane is not a big city. </DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV><BR><BR><B><I>Sue Hovey <suehovey@moscow.com></I></B> wrote:</DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Actually, Donovan, one can find sugar free
pickles lots of places and a bath pillow--well I haven't looked for one but
if I needed to, I'd go to Tri State, buy some foam and make my
own.</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>One other issue. Folks keep talking about
bringing in jobs and making the comparison to Seattle, Pittsburg, etc.
What about those of us who choose to live here because we can buy everything
we really need here, we can get all the way across town in about 3 minutes,
we can know a very big percentage of the population on a first name basis,
we can enjoy a walk around town without being bothered by freeways, super
highways, and busy pedestrians running to catch a bus or taxi. And
gridlock here in downtown Moscow on a really busy day lasts about 4
seconds. Call me a naysayer, but I like it this way. And when I
really want to go to a big city to shop I do it in conjunction with a play
in Spokane, a business trip to DC, or a vacation. Or I shop over the
Internet. I don't need more of anything much as long as
Bookpeople, Casa Lopez and the Red Door, VGH, Tri State, Browns
Furniture, Sisters, Wild Women Traders, and Rosauers stay in
business. And if Walmart closed its doors, I wouldn't miss it for a
minute. I like the ambiance of downtown especially on a Farmer's
Market Morning. Am I missing anything---I don't think so.
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Sue H. </FONT></DIV>
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<A title=donovanjarnold2005@yahoo.com
href="mailto:donovanjarnold2005@yahoo.com">Donovan Arnold</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A title=idahotom@hotmail.com
href="mailto:idahotom@hotmail.com">Tom Hansen</A> ; <A
title=london@moscow.com href="mailto:london@moscow.com">Bill London</A> ;
<A title=lfalen@turbonet.com href="mailto:lfalen@turbonet.com">lfalen</A>
; <A title=vision2020@moscow.com
href="mailto:vision2020@moscow.com">v2020</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Wednesday, October 24, 2007
6:29 PM</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: [Vision2020] real
economic development in Moscow</DIV>
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<DIV>I think you have to have the low tech and industrial jobs before we
can support the high tech jobs. High technology jobs usually depend on the
industrial jobs to produce the materials they manufacture. Moscow does not
have the means, the human resources or the industrial might, to support
high technological jobs. You can hardly find sugar free pickles or a bath
pillow in Moscow, much less a piece of gold shaped to the exact dimensions
needed for a conductor. I would venture to say higher technological
companies like having the resources and industry to supply them with
their materials rather waiting weeks for it cross mountains and
rivers to Moscow, Idaho, and having to pay for the transportation
jobs.</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>Jobs that don't need industry and materials are usually outsourced
overseas. </DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>I would suggest that Moscow take advantage of its valuable clays and
fertile soil if it wants to branch outside of education as its sole bread
winner. </DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>Best,</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>Donovan<BR><BR><B><I>Tom Hansen <idahotom@hotmail.com></I></B>
wrote:</DIV>
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In my opinion, it is really quite simple, Mr. Falen.<BR> <BR>The
retail stores will follow the high tech jobs into town alot quicker than
high tech jobs will follow retail stores.<BR> <BR>As more and more
high tech jobs are available here in Moscow, more and more people will
seek those high-tech (pronounced "high paying") jobs.<BR> <BR>As
more and more people fill those high tech, high paying jobs, the more
money there is flowing around the city of Moscow.<BR> <BR>Also, as
these jobs develop into careers, people holding those jobs evolve from a
person to a couple to a family.<BR> <BR>As more and more money is
distributed around the city of Moscow (by these persons, couples,
families), more and more retail outlets will establish themselves in
Moscow.<BR> <BR>And just FYI, Mr. Falen: That, to me, is
GROWTH.<BR> <BR>If you think that by flooding the city of Moscow
with retail store after retail store after retail store, this will
attract the high tech jobs, you are only fooling
yourself.<BR> <BR>Tom Hansen<BR>Moscow, Idaho<BR><BR><BR><BR><BR>
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<BR>> From: london@moscow.com<BR>> To: lfalen@turbonet.com;
vision2020@moscow.com<BR>> Date: Wed, 24 Oct 2007 11:36:59
-0700<BR>> Subject: Re: [Vision2020] real economic development in
Moscow<BR>> <BR>> R-<BR>> You missed the point.<BR>> These
high-tech jobs can go anywhere. All towns want them.<BR>> The
entrepreneurs can be choosy, and they are choosy. They want towns with
<BR>> a high quality of life.<BR>> If Moscow sacrifices its high
quality of life for (what you describe as) <BR>> "almost anything
that will provide jobs, increase the tax base and improve <BR>> the
overall economy", then we lose what now attracts these high-tech
jobs.<BR>> You just can not have it both ways.<BR>> I want to live
in a town that maintains its high quality of life and <BR>> therefore
is attractive to high-tech jobs -- not a town that has no <BR>>
standards but goes for any growth.<BR>> BL<BR>> <BR>> <BR>>
<BR>> <BR>> <BR>> <BR>> ----- Original Message -----
<BR>> From: "lfalen" <lfalen@turbonet.com><BR>> To: "Bill
London" <london@moscow.com>; "v2020"
<vision2020@moscow.com><BR>> Sent: Tuesday, October 23, 2007
10:34 AM<BR>> Subject: Re: [Vision2020] real economic development in
Moscow<BR>> <BR>> <BR>> >I can't argue with bringing in
high-tech companies, I'm all for it. I think <BR>> >Moscow should
try to attract all kinds of businesses. It is fine to place <BR>>
>controls on those that would create undue pollution. Other than that
<BR>> >promote almost anything that will provide jobs, increase
the tax base and <BR>> >improve the overall economy.<BR>> >
Roger<BR>> > -----Original message-----<BR>> > From: "Bill
London" london@moscow.com<BR>> > Date: Tue, 23 Oct 2007 09:58:18
-0700<BR>> > To: "v2020" vision2020@moscow.com<BR>> >
Subject: [Vision2020] real economic development in Moscow<BR>>
><BR>> >><BR>> >> Today's Tribune article about the
MCA forum held last night is a great <BR>> >> summary of the
choices facing Moscow voters in this council election. <BR>> >>
Vote for the future with MCA endorsed candidates and Moscow will aim for
<BR>> >> both maintaining its uniqueness and attracting more
entrepreneurial <BR>> >> businesses. My thanks to the MCA board
for sponsoring this forum. BL<BR>> >><BR>> >>
----------------<BR>> >> Is high-tech the key to Moscow's
future?<BR>> >> Forum sponsored by Moscow Civic Association
brings together business and <BR>> >> community leaders<BR>>
>> By David Johnson<BR>> >> October 23, 2007<BR>>
>><BR>> >><BR>> >> MOSCOW - The economic future
of Moscow will depend more on attracting and <BR>> >> retaining
high-tech companies than encouraging more housing and retail <BR>>
>> business, members of a panel agreed Monday night.<BR>>
>><BR>> >> "In the basic form, economic development is
jobs," said B.J. Swanson, <BR>> >> vice president of
AmericanWest Bank here and chairwoman of the board of <BR>> >>
directors for Gritman Medical Center. "But not just any job." She said
<BR>> >> jobs should provide enough money to offer a reasonably
comfortable <BR>> >> living.<BR>> >><BR>> >>
Robin Woods, president of Alturas Analytics located in Moscow, said 100
<BR>> >> percent of her bio-tech business comes from outside
Idaho, most of it <BR>> >> from the San Francisco Bay Area.
Yet, she and her partners opted to <BR>> >> locate here because
of the quality of life that's available<BR>> >><BR>>
>> "Probably it would have been better to locate in San Francisco
or <BR>> >> Seattle, but with Fed Ex and the fiber-optic that
we have ... and with <BR>> >> the Internet, the world is flat
and we can conduct our business here," <BR>> >> Woods
said.<BR>> >><BR>> >> David Alexander, a UI graduate
and CEO of Ivus Industries, a small <BR>> >> business he
decided to locate here, said Moscow is an ideal location for <BR>>
>> entrepreneurs to tap into a high-tech labor pool that spins off
both the <BR>> >> University of Idaho and neighboring
Washington State University in <BR>> >> Pullman.<BR>>
>><BR>> >> "What the business is, is a focus on extremely
fast-charging rechargeable <BR>> >> products," Alexander said
of his startup company. He said the company, <BR>> >> which has
four employees, is currently developing a fast-charging <BR>>
>> flashlight.<BR>> >><BR>> >> Judy Brown, an
economist and director of the Idaho Center on Budget and <BR>>
>> Tax Policy, said research shows if a community creates a good
living <BR>> >> environment, jobs will come. "The key thing
that attracts" entrepreneurs <BR>> >> and businesses to an
area, Brown said, is quality of life, not tax <BR>> >>
breaks.<BR>> >><BR>> >> "Quality of life and the
ability to work either from home or near home," <BR>> >> she
said, "are the two really key things in deciding where people locate
<BR>> >> those kinds of businesses."<BR>> >><BR>>
>> The forum, sponsored by the Moscow Civic Association, comes two
weeks <BR>> >> prior to a city council election here that many
say hinges on attitudes <BR>> >> about economic growth. Bruce
Livingston, president of the MCA, said the <BR>> >> forum was
called in part to dispel the notion that the MCA is <BR>> >>
anti-economic growth. He said the MCA is "pro business, pro growth and
<BR>> >> pro community."<BR>> >><BR>> >>
About 30 people, including several council candidates, attended the
forum <BR>> >> at the 1912 Center.<BR>> >><BR>>
>> Swanson said Moscow needs to wean itself from a housing and
retail <BR>> >> fixation about growth. "Our voracious appetite
to approve subdivision <BR>> >> after subdivision, to build
high-end homes, has run out of high-end <BR>> >> people to
occupy them," Swanson said, adding that new retail businesses <BR>>
>> seem to be only replacing old ones.<BR>> >><BR>>
>> "Over-built housing and replacement retail is not a good
economic model," <BR>> >> Swanson said.<BR>>
>><BR>> >> According to statistics presented at the
forum, Moscow has a population <BR>> >> of about 22,350 and UI
employs about 2,870 people. Gritman employs 431, <BR>> >> with
the Moscow School District and Wal-Mart, by comparison, employing
<BR>> >> 350 and 207 people, respectively.<BR>>
>><BR>> >> Swanson said it's time for the community to
get back on the right <BR>> >> economic track with the primary
focus on good-paying jobs and a secondary <BR>> >> focus on
housing and retail business. "And as always, focus on anything <BR>>
>> that will help the University of Idaho. They've carried us for
years. <BR>> >> It's time for us to get out and carry
ourselves."<BR>> >><BR>> >> All the panelists said
Moscow city officials and members of the city <BR>> >> council
have been extremely pro-business.<BR>> >><BR>> >> "Our
intent is to hire WSU and University of Idaho graduates," Woods said
<BR>> >> about her expanding business. She said that all but
one of the 30 people <BR>> >> working at Alturas Analytics are
from the two universities. Woods said <BR>> >> it's important
for Moscow to complete it's rewrite of the comprehensive <BR>>
>> plan, and to keep tech businesses together to encourage more
business.<BR>> >><BR>> >> "I think it's important to
have kind of a think-tank atmosphere," she <BR>> >> said, "kind
of a campus atmosphere in your tech park. So I don't think <BR>>
>> it's a good idea to scatter things here and there."<BR>>
>><BR>> >> Swanson pointed out Alturas Technology Park,
located on the southeastern <BR>> >> edge of town, had modest
beginnings, but now is home to around 150 jobs <BR>> >> that
have annual salaries of $50,000 and up. "And those jobs really <BR>>
>> contribute back to the community," she said.<BR>>
>><BR>> >> ---<BR>> >><BR>> >> Johnson
may be contacted at deveryone@potlatch.com or (208) 883-0564.<BR>>
>><BR>> >><BR>> >><BR>> > <BR>>
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