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<DIV><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2><SPAN class=234210503-25102007>When
you enter one side of town, and can see the fields on the other side, you are
still a very small town. Actually, from my house, I can see the edge of
town in all directions. </SPAN></FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2><SPAN class=234210503-25102007>And
yes, we live here because we know most people, we don't have rush hour, and most
folks are friendly.</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
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class=234210503-25102007></SPAN></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2><SPAN class=234210503-25102007>A
community must have sources of jobs other than retail and development. You
can't buy $300,000 houses on an average retail wage. Luckily, in Moscow,
we do have some companies that provide living wage jobs.
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2><SPAN
class=234210503-25102007></SPAN></FONT><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff
size=2><SPAN class=234210503-25102007>Bev</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
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<DIV class=OutlookMessageHeader dir=ltr align=left><FONT face=Tahoma
size=2>-----Original Message-----<BR><B>From:</B>
vision2020-bounces@moscow.com [mailto:vision2020-bounces@moscow.com]<B>On
Behalf Of </B>Sue Hovey<BR><B>Sent:</B> Wednesday, October 24, 2007 7:49
PM<BR><B>To:</B> Donovan Arnold; Tom Hansen; Bill London; lfalen;
v2020<BR><B>Subject:</B> Re: [Vision2020] real economic development in
Moscow<BR><BR></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Actually, Donovan, one can find sugar free
pickles lots of places and a bath pillow--well I haven't looked for one but if
I needed to, I'd go to Tri State, buy some foam and make my own.</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>One other issue. Folks keep talking about
bringing in jobs and making the comparison to Seattle, Pittsburg, etc.
What about those of us who choose to live here because we can buy everything
we really need here, we can get all the way across town in about 3 minutes, we
can know a very big percentage of the population on a first name basis, we can
enjoy a walk around town without being bothered by freeways, super highways,
and busy pedestrians running to catch a bus or taxi. And gridlock here
in downtown Moscow on a really busy day lasts about 4 seconds. Call me a
naysayer, but I like it this way. And when I really want to go to a big
city to shop I do it in conjunction with a play in Spokane, a business trip to
DC, or a vacation. Or I shop over the Internet. I don't need more
of anything much as long as Bookpeople, Casa Lopez and the Red Door, VGH,
Tri State, Browns Furniture, Sisters, Wild Women Traders, and
Rosauers stay in business. And if Walmart closed its doors, I
wouldn't miss it for a minute. I like the ambiance of downtown
especially on a Farmer's Market Morning. Am I missing anything---I don't
think so. </FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Sue H. </FONT></DIV>
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style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: black"><B>From:</B>
<A title=donovanjarnold2005@yahoo.com
href="mailto:donovanjarnold2005@yahoo.com">Donovan Arnold</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A title=idahotom@hotmail.com
href="mailto:idahotom@hotmail.com">Tom Hansen</A> ; <A
title=london@moscow.com href="mailto:london@moscow.com">Bill London</A> ; <A
title=lfalen@turbonet.com href="mailto:lfalen@turbonet.com">lfalen</A> ; <A
title=vision2020@moscow.com href="mailto:vision2020@moscow.com">v2020</A>
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Wednesday, October 24, 2007 6:29
PM</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: [Vision2020] real economic
development in Moscow</DIV>
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<DIV>I think you have to have the low tech and industrial jobs before we can
support the high tech jobs. High technology jobs usually depend on the
industrial jobs to produce the materials they manufacture. Moscow does not
have the means, the human resources or the industrial might, to support high
technological jobs. You can hardly find sugar free pickles or a bath pillow
in Moscow, much less a piece of gold shaped to the exact dimensions needed
for a conductor. I would venture to say higher technological companies like
having the resources and industry to supply them with their materials
rather waiting weeks for it cross mountains and rivers to Moscow, Idaho, and
having to pay for the transportation jobs.</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>Jobs that don't need industry and materials are usually outsourced
overseas. </DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>I would suggest that Moscow take advantage of its valuable clays and
fertile soil if it wants to branch outside of education as its sole bread
winner. </DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>Best,</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>Donovan<BR><BR><B><I>Tom Hansen <idahotom@hotmail.com></I></B>
wrote:</DIV>
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In my opinion, it is really quite simple, Mr. Falen.<BR> <BR>The
retail stores will follow the high tech jobs into town alot quicker than
high tech jobs will follow retail stores.<BR> <BR>As more and more
high tech jobs are available here in Moscow, more and more people will
seek those high-tech (pronounced "high paying") jobs.<BR> <BR>As more
and more people fill those high tech, high paying jobs, the more money
there is flowing around the city of Moscow.<BR> <BR>Also, as these
jobs develop into careers, people holding those jobs evolve from a person
to a couple to a family.<BR> <BR>As more and more money is
distributed around the city of Moscow (by these persons, couples,
families), more and more retail outlets will establish themselves in
Moscow.<BR> <BR>And just FYI, Mr. Falen: That, to me, is
GROWTH.<BR> <BR>If you think that by flooding the city of Moscow with
retail store after retail store after retail store, this will attract the
high tech jobs, you are only fooling yourself.<BR> <BR>Tom
Hansen<BR>Moscow, Idaho<BR><BR><BR><BR><BR>
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<BR>> From: london@moscow.com<BR>> To: lfalen@turbonet.com;
vision2020@moscow.com<BR>> Date: Wed, 24 Oct 2007 11:36:59
-0700<BR>> Subject: Re: [Vision2020] real economic development in
Moscow<BR>> <BR>> R-<BR>> You missed the point.<BR>> These
high-tech jobs can go anywhere. All towns want them.<BR>> The
entrepreneurs can be choosy, and they are choosy. They want towns with
<BR>> a high quality of life.<BR>> If Moscow sacrifices its high
quality of life for (what you describe as) <BR>> "almost anything that
will provide jobs, increase the tax base and improve <BR>> the overall
economy", then we lose what now attracts these high-tech jobs.<BR>> You
just can not have it both ways.<BR>> I want to live in a town that
maintains its high quality of life and <BR>> therefore is attractive to
high-tech jobs -- not a town that has no <BR>> standards but goes for
any growth.<BR>> BL<BR>> <BR>> <BR>> <BR>> <BR>>
<BR>> <BR>> ----- Original Message ----- <BR>> From: "lfalen"
<lfalen@turbonet.com><BR>> To: "Bill London"
<london@moscow.com>; "v2020" <vision2020@moscow.com><BR>>
Sent: Tuesday, October 23, 2007 10:34 AM<BR>> Subject: Re: [Vision2020]
real economic development in Moscow<BR>> <BR>> <BR>> >I can't
argue with bringing in high-tech companies, I'm all for it. I think
<BR>> >Moscow should try to attract all kinds of businesses. It is
fine to place <BR>> >controls on those that would create undue
pollution. Other than that <BR>> >promote almost anything that will
provide jobs, increase the tax base and <BR>> >improve the overall
economy.<BR>> > Roger<BR>> > -----Original
message-----<BR>> > From: "Bill London" london@moscow.com<BR>>
> Date: Tue, 23 Oct 2007 09:58:18 -0700<BR>> > To: "v2020"
vision2020@moscow.com<BR>> > Subject: [Vision2020] real economic
development in Moscow<BR>> ><BR>> >><BR>> >>
Today's Tribune article about the MCA forum held last night is a great
<BR>> >> summary of the choices facing Moscow voters in this
council election. <BR>> >> Vote for the future with MCA endorsed
candidates and Moscow will aim for <BR>> >> both maintaining its
uniqueness and attracting more entrepreneurial <BR>> >>
businesses. My thanks to the MCA board for sponsoring this forum.
BL<BR>> >><BR>> >> ----------------<BR>> >> Is
high-tech the key to Moscow's future?<BR>> >> Forum sponsored by
Moscow Civic Association brings together business and <BR>> >>
community leaders<BR>> >> By David Johnson<BR>> >>
October 23, 2007<BR>> >><BR>> >><BR>> >> MOSCOW
- The economic future of Moscow will depend more on attracting and
<BR>> >> retaining high-tech companies than encouraging more
housing and retail <BR>> >> business, members of a panel agreed
Monday night.<BR>> >><BR>> >> "In the basic form,
economic development is jobs," said B.J. Swanson, <BR>> >> vice
president of AmericanWest Bank here and chairwoman of the board of
<BR>> >> directors for Gritman Medical Center. "But not just any
job." She said <BR>> >> jobs should provide enough money to offer
a reasonably comfortable <BR>> >> living.<BR>>
>><BR>> >> Robin Woods, president of Alturas Analytics
located in Moscow, said 100 <BR>> >> percent of her bio-tech
business comes from outside Idaho, most of it <BR>> >> from the
San Francisco Bay Area. Yet, she and her partners opted to <BR>>
>> locate here because of the quality of life that's
available<BR>> >><BR>> >> "Probably it would have been
better to locate in San Francisco or <BR>> >> Seattle, but with
Fed Ex and the fiber-optic that we have ... and with <BR>> >> the
Internet, the world is flat and we can conduct our business here,"
<BR>> >> Woods said.<BR>> >><BR>> >> David
Alexander, a UI graduate and CEO of Ivus Industries, a small <BR>>
>> business he decided to locate here, said Moscow is an ideal
location for <BR>> >> entrepreneurs to tap into a high-tech labor
pool that spins off both the <BR>> >> University of Idaho and
neighboring Washington State University in <BR>> >>
Pullman.<BR>> >><BR>> >> "What the business is, is a
focus on extremely fast-charging rechargeable <BR>> >> products,"
Alexander said of his startup company. He said the company, <BR>>
>> which has four employees, is currently developing a fast-charging
<BR>> >> flashlight.<BR>> >><BR>> >> Judy
Brown, an economist and director of the Idaho Center on Budget and
<BR>> >> Tax Policy, said research shows if a community creates a
good living <BR>> >> environment, jobs will come. "The key thing
that attracts" entrepreneurs <BR>> >> and businesses to an area,
Brown said, is quality of life, not tax <BR>> >> breaks.<BR>>
>><BR>> >> "Quality of life and the ability to work either
from home or near home," <BR>> >> she said, "are the two really
key things in deciding where people locate <BR>> >> those kinds
of businesses."<BR>> >><BR>> >> The forum, sponsored by
the Moscow Civic Association, comes two weeks <BR>> >> prior to a
city council election here that many say hinges on attitudes <BR>>
>> about economic growth. Bruce Livingston, president of the MCA,
said the <BR>> >> forum was called in part to dispel the notion
that the MCA is <BR>> >> anti-economic growth. He said the MCA is
"pro business, pro growth and <BR>> >> pro community."<BR>>
>><BR>> >> About 30 people, including several council
candidates, attended the forum <BR>> >> at the 1912
Center.<BR>> >><BR>> >> Swanson said Moscow needs to
wean itself from a housing and retail <BR>> >> fixation about
growth. "Our voracious appetite to approve subdivision <BR>> >>
after subdivision, to build high-end homes, has run out of high-end
<BR>> >> people to occupy them," Swanson said, adding that new
retail businesses <BR>> >> seem to be only replacing old
ones.<BR>> >><BR>> >> "Over-built housing and
replacement retail is not a good economic model," <BR>> >>
Swanson said.<BR>> >><BR>> >> According to statistics
presented at the forum, Moscow has a population <BR>> >> of about
22,350 and UI employs about 2,870 people. Gritman employs 431, <BR>>
>> with the Moscow School District and Wal-Mart, by comparison,
employing <BR>> >> 350 and 207 people, respectively.<BR>>
>><BR>> >> Swanson said it's time for the community to get
back on the right <BR>> >> economic track with the primary focus
on good-paying jobs and a secondary <BR>> >> focus on housing and
retail business. "And as always, focus on anything <BR>> >> that
will help the University of Idaho. They've carried us for years. <BR>>
>> It's time for us to get out and carry ourselves."<BR>>
>><BR>> >> All the panelists said Moscow city officials and
members of the city <BR>> >> council have been extremely
pro-business.<BR>> >><BR>> >> "Our intent is to hire WSU
and University of Idaho graduates," Woods said <BR>> >> about her
expanding business. She said that all but one of the 30 people <BR>>
>> working at Alturas Analytics are from the two universities. Woods
said <BR>> >> it's important for Moscow to complete it's rewrite
of the comprehensive <BR>> >> plan, and to keep tech businesses
together to encourage more business.<BR>> >><BR>> >> "I
think it's important to have kind of a think-tank atmosphere," she
<BR>> >> said, "kind of a campus atmosphere in your tech park. So
I don't think <BR>> >> it's a good idea to scatter things here
and there."<BR>> >><BR>> >> Swanson pointed out Alturas
Technology Park, located on the southeastern <BR>> >> edge of
town, had modest beginnings, but now is home to around 150 jobs <BR>>
>> that have annual salaries of $50,000 and up. "And those jobs
really <BR>> >> contribute back to the community," she
said.<BR>> >><BR>> >> ---<BR>> >><BR>>
>> Johnson may be contacted at deveryone@potlatch.com or (208)
883-0564.<BR>> >><BR>> >><BR>> >><BR>> >
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