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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Actually, Donovan, one can find sugar free pickles
lots of places and a bath pillow--well I haven't looked for one but if I needed
to, I'd go to Tri State, buy some foam and make my own.</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>One other issue. Folks keep talking about
bringing in jobs and making the comparison to Seattle, Pittsburg, etc.
What about those of us who choose to live here because we can buy everything we
really need here, we can get all the way across town in about 3 minutes, we can
know a very big percentage of the population on a first name basis, we can enjoy
a walk around town without being bothered by freeways, super highways, and busy
pedestrians running to catch a bus or taxi. And gridlock here in downtown
Moscow on a really busy day lasts about 4 seconds. Call me a naysayer, but
I like it this way. And when I really want to go to a big city to shop I
do it in conjunction with a play in Spokane, a business trip to DC, or a
vacation. Or I shop over the Internet. I don't need more of anything
much as long as Bookpeople, Casa Lopez and the Red Door, VGH, Tri State,
Browns Furniture, Sisters, Wild Women Traders, and Rosauers stay in
business. And if Walmart closed its doors, I wouldn't miss it for a minute.
I like the ambiance of downtown especially on a Farmer's Market
Morning. Am I missing anything---I don't think so. </FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Sue H. </FONT></DIV>
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<A title=donovanjarnold2005@yahoo.com
href="mailto:donovanjarnold2005@yahoo.com">Donovan Arnold</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A title=idahotom@hotmail.com
href="mailto:idahotom@hotmail.com">Tom Hansen</A> ; <A title=london@moscow.com
href="mailto:london@moscow.com">Bill London</A> ; <A title=lfalen@turbonet.com
href="mailto:lfalen@turbonet.com">lfalen</A> ; <A title=vision2020@moscow.com
href="mailto:vision2020@moscow.com">v2020</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Wednesday, October 24, 2007 6:29
PM</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: [Vision2020] real economic
development in Moscow</DIV>
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<DIV>I think you have to have the low tech and industrial jobs before we can
support the high tech jobs. High technology jobs usually depend on the
industrial jobs to produce the materials they manufacture. Moscow does not
have the means, the human resources or the industrial might, to support high
technological jobs. You can hardly find sugar free pickles or a bath pillow in
Moscow, much less a piece of gold shaped to the exact dimensions needed for a
conductor. I would venture to say higher technological companies like having
the resources and industry to supply them with their materials rather
waiting weeks for it cross mountains and rivers to Moscow, Idaho, and having
to pay for the transportation jobs.</DIV>
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<DIV>Jobs that don't need industry and materials are usually outsourced
overseas. </DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>I would suggest that Moscow take advantage of its valuable clays and
fertile soil if it wants to branch outside of education as its sole bread
winner. </DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>Best,</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>Donovan<BR><BR><B><I>Tom Hansen <idahotom@hotmail.com></I></B>
wrote:</DIV>
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In my opinion, it is really quite simple, Mr. Falen.<BR> <BR>The retail
stores will follow the high tech jobs into town alot quicker than high tech
jobs will follow retail stores.<BR> <BR>As more and more high tech jobs
are available here in Moscow, more and more people will seek those high-tech
(pronounced "high paying") jobs.<BR> <BR>As more and more people fill
those high tech, high paying jobs, the more money there is flowing around
the city of Moscow.<BR> <BR>Also, as these jobs develop into careers,
people holding those jobs evolve from a person to a couple to a
family.<BR> <BR>As more and more money is distributed around the city
of Moscow (by these persons, couples, families), more and more retail
outlets will establish themselves in Moscow.<BR> <BR>And just FYI, Mr.
Falen: That, to me, is GROWTH.<BR> <BR>If you think that by
flooding the city of Moscow with retail store after retail store after
retail store, this will attract the high tech jobs, you are only fooling
yourself.<BR> <BR>Tom Hansen<BR>Moscow, Idaho<BR><BR><BR><BR><BR>
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<BR>> From: london@moscow.com<BR>> To: lfalen@turbonet.com;
vision2020@moscow.com<BR>> Date: Wed, 24 Oct 2007 11:36:59 -0700<BR>>
Subject: Re: [Vision2020] real economic development in Moscow<BR>>
<BR>> R-<BR>> You missed the point.<BR>> These high-tech jobs can
go anywhere. All towns want them.<BR>> The entrepreneurs can be choosy,
and they are choosy. They want towns with <BR>> a high quality of
life.<BR>> If Moscow sacrifices its high quality of life for (what you
describe as) <BR>> "almost anything that will provide jobs, increase the
tax base and improve <BR>> the overall economy", then we lose what now
attracts these high-tech jobs.<BR>> You just can not have it both
ways.<BR>> I want to live in a town that maintains its high quality of
life and <BR>> therefore is attractive to high-tech jobs -- not a town
that has no <BR>> standards but goes for any growth.<BR>> BL<BR>>
<BR>> <BR>> <BR>> <BR>> <BR>> <BR>> ----- Original Message
----- <BR>> From: "lfalen" <lfalen@turbonet.com><BR>> To: "Bill
London" <london@moscow.com>; "v2020"
<vision2020@moscow.com><BR>> Sent: Tuesday, October 23, 2007 10:34
AM<BR>> Subject: Re: [Vision2020] real economic development in
Moscow<BR>> <BR>> <BR>> >I can't argue with bringing in
high-tech companies, I'm all for it. I think <BR>> >Moscow should try
to attract all kinds of businesses. It is fine to place <BR>>
>controls on those that would create undue pollution. Other than that
<BR>> >promote almost anything that will provide jobs, increase the
tax base and <BR>> >improve the overall economy.<BR>> >
Roger<BR>> > -----Original message-----<BR>> > From: "Bill
London" london@moscow.com<BR>> > Date: Tue, 23 Oct 2007 09:58:18
-0700<BR>> > To: "v2020" vision2020@moscow.com<BR>> > Subject:
[Vision2020] real economic development in Moscow<BR>> ><BR>>
>><BR>> >> Today's Tribune article about the MCA forum held
last night is a great <BR>> >> summary of the choices facing Moscow
voters in this council election. <BR>> >> Vote for the future with
MCA endorsed candidates and Moscow will aim for <BR>> >> both
maintaining its uniqueness and attracting more entrepreneurial <BR>>
>> businesses. My thanks to the MCA board for sponsoring this forum.
BL<BR>> >><BR>> >> ----------------<BR>> >> Is
high-tech the key to Moscow's future?<BR>> >> Forum sponsored by
Moscow Civic Association brings together business and <BR>> >>
community leaders<BR>> >> By David Johnson<BR>> >> October
23, 2007<BR>> >><BR>> >><BR>> >> MOSCOW - The
economic future of Moscow will depend more on attracting and <BR>>
>> retaining high-tech companies than encouraging more housing and
retail <BR>> >> business, members of a panel agreed Monday
night.<BR>> >><BR>> >> "In the basic form, economic
development is jobs," said B.J. Swanson, <BR>> >> vice president of
AmericanWest Bank here and chairwoman of the board of <BR>> >>
directors for Gritman Medical Center. "But not just any job." She said
<BR>> >> jobs should provide enough money to offer a reasonably
comfortable <BR>> >> living.<BR>> >><BR>> >>
Robin Woods, president of Alturas Analytics located in Moscow, said 100
<BR>> >> percent of her bio-tech business comes from outside Idaho,
most of it <BR>> >> from the San Francisco Bay Area. Yet, she and
her partners opted to <BR>> >> locate here because of the quality
of life that's available<BR>> >><BR>> >> "Probably it
would have been better to locate in San Francisco or <BR>> >>
Seattle, but with Fed Ex and the fiber-optic that we have ... and with
<BR>> >> the Internet, the world is flat and we can conduct our
business here," <BR>> >> Woods said.<BR>> >><BR>>
>> David Alexander, a UI graduate and CEO of Ivus Industries, a small
<BR>> >> business he decided to locate here, said Moscow is an
ideal location for <BR>> >> entrepreneurs to tap into a high-tech
labor pool that spins off both the <BR>> >> University of Idaho and
neighboring Washington State University in <BR>> >>
Pullman.<BR>> >><BR>> >> "What the business is, is a focus
on extremely fast-charging rechargeable <BR>> >> products,"
Alexander said of his startup company. He said the company, <BR>>
>> which has four employees, is currently developing a fast-charging
<BR>> >> flashlight.<BR>> >><BR>> >> Judy Brown,
an economist and director of the Idaho Center on Budget and <BR>>
>> Tax Policy, said research shows if a community creates a good
living <BR>> >> environment, jobs will come. "The key thing that
attracts" entrepreneurs <BR>> >> and businesses to an area, Brown
said, is quality of life, not tax <BR>> >> breaks.<BR>>
>><BR>> >> "Quality of life and the ability to work either
from home or near home," <BR>> >> she said, "are the two really key
things in deciding where people locate <BR>> >> those kinds of
businesses."<BR>> >><BR>> >> The forum, sponsored by the
Moscow Civic Association, comes two weeks <BR>> >> prior to a city
council election here that many say hinges on attitudes <BR>> >>
about economic growth. Bruce Livingston, president of the MCA, said the
<BR>> >> forum was called in part to dispel the notion that the MCA
is <BR>> >> anti-economic growth. He said the MCA is "pro business,
pro growth and <BR>> >> pro community."<BR>> >><BR>>
>> About 30 people, including several council candidates, attended the
forum <BR>> >> at the 1912 Center.<BR>> >><BR>>
>> Swanson said Moscow needs to wean itself from a housing and retail
<BR>> >> fixation about growth. "Our voracious appetite to approve
subdivision <BR>> >> after subdivision, to build high-end homes,
has run out of high-end <BR>> >> people to occupy them," Swanson
said, adding that new retail businesses <BR>> >> seem to be only
replacing old ones.<BR>> >><BR>> >> "Over-built housing
and replacement retail is not a good economic model," <BR>> >>
Swanson said.<BR>> >><BR>> >> According to statistics
presented at the forum, Moscow has a population <BR>> >> of about
22,350 and UI employs about 2,870 people. Gritman employs 431, <BR>>
>> with the Moscow School District and Wal-Mart, by comparison,
employing <BR>> >> 350 and 207 people, respectively.<BR>>
>><BR>> >> Swanson said it's time for the community to get
back on the right <BR>> >> economic track with the primary focus on
good-paying jobs and a secondary <BR>> >> focus on housing and
retail business. "And as always, focus on anything <BR>> >> that
will help the University of Idaho. They've carried us for years. <BR>>
>> It's time for us to get out and carry ourselves."<BR>>
>><BR>> >> All the panelists said Moscow city officials and
members of the city <BR>> >> council have been extremely
pro-business.<BR>> >><BR>> >> "Our intent is to hire WSU
and University of Idaho graduates," Woods said <BR>> >> about her
expanding business. She said that all but one of the 30 people <BR>>
>> working at Alturas Analytics are from the two universities. Woods
said <BR>> >> it's important for Moscow to complete it's rewrite of
the comprehensive <BR>> >> plan, and to keep tech businesses
together to encourage more business.<BR>> >><BR>> >> "I
think it's important to have kind of a think-tank atmosphere," she <BR>>
>> said, "kind of a campus atmosphere in your tech park. So I don't
think <BR>> >> it's a good idea to scatter things here and
there."<BR>> >><BR>> >> Swanson pointed out Alturas
Technology Park, located on the southeastern <BR>> >> edge of town,
had modest beginnings, but now is home to around 150 jobs <BR>> >>
that have annual salaries of $50,000 and up. "And those jobs really <BR>>
>> contribute back to the community," she said.<BR>>
>><BR>> >> ---<BR>> >><BR>> >> Johnson may
be contacted at deveryone@potlatch.com or (208) 883-0564.<BR>>
>><BR>> >><BR>> >><BR>> > <BR>> <BR>>
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