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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>My skepticism runneth over. How does this
apply to the soggy sidewalks at city hall? I might buy this for the soccer
fields by the youth center or the park at mountain view which are actual
playfields but it doesn't fly for east city or gormley. Why was the watering
done outside the hours that the rest of the citizens of Moscow were told were
optimum. (and legally mandated) Do playfields not get "bouncy" when watered
after 6:00 PM and before 8:00 AM? How does this address the desire of
our current city government to acquire additional ground that will consume
additional water? If it's all about the liability of falling down on a hard
surface why are we allowing tennis courts and basketball courts to remain open
to say nothing of the exceedingly non-bouncy skate park? If the city is
accepting liability for injuries received on surfaces lacking in bounce I would
have to suggest that they do something about those nasty sidewalks that seem to
be cropping up everywhere. Or perhaps it will be your contention that this is
what explains the damp concrete around city hall?</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>g</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV>
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style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: black"><B>From:</B>
<A title=london@moscow.com href="mailto:london@moscow.com">Bill London</A>
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A title=jampot@roadrunner.com
href="mailto:jampot@roadrunner.com">g. crabtree</A> ; <A
title=jeanlivingston@turbonet.com
href="mailto:jeanlivingston@turbonet.com">Bruce and Jean Livingston</A> ; <A
title=vision2020@moscow.com
href="mailto:vision2020@moscow.com">vision2020@moscow.com</A> ; <A
title=msolomon@moscow.com href="mailto:msolomon@moscow.com">Mark Solomon</A>
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Saturday, October 20, 2007 1:04
PM</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: [Vision2020] Water
Concern?</DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Before accusing the city of Moscow of massive
hypocracy in watering parkland, perhaps you should discuss this issue with the
parks department people.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>I did.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Their reason for watering the grass is
safety and liability. Dry playfields are less "bouncy" than green
lawns. Kids get hurt more playing on dry grass than on green
grass.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>So, the parks department opts for
safety.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>BL</FONT></DIV>
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style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: black"><B>From:</B>
<A title=jampot@roadrunner.com href="mailto:jampot@roadrunner.com">g.
crabtree</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A
title=jeanlivingston@turbonet.com
href="mailto:jeanlivingston@turbonet.com">Bruce and Jean Livingston</A> ; <A
title=vision2020@moscow.com
href="mailto:vision2020@moscow.com">vision2020@moscow.com</A> ; <A
title=msolomon@moscow.com href="mailto:msolomon@moscow.com">Mark Solomon</A>
</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Thursday, October 18, 2007 7:36
PM</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: [Vision2020] Water
Concern?</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Interesting. If the incumbent candidates you
favor are so concerned (and "responsible") with water usage in Moscow,
unlike their challengers, why did the city of Moscow not follow its own
regulations for lawn watering? The grass (and sidewalks) around city hall
sure received more than its fair share of water as did gormley mtn. view
and east city park. Why do they continually favor the dedication of
additional park land? Land which, like the golf course in Pullman, will
require huge amounts of water to maintain. I have not heard the candidates
your organization endorses make any resolutions to address the water issues
in Moscow other than in the form of anti-growth anti-business rhetoric. If
it's outrageous to want to have a green lawn and an aesthetically pleasant
and restful cemetery why not apply the same standard to city property? (300
sq. ft. of xeriscape at the 1912 bldg. excepted, of course.) I believe that
as far as the MCA candidates are concerned the water issue is a tool first
and a genuine concern a distant second.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>g</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV
style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: black"><B>From:</B>
<A title=jeanlivingston@turbonet.com
href="mailto:jeanlivingston@turbonet.com">Bruce and Jean Livingston</A>
</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A title=jampot@roadrunner.com
href="mailto:jampot@roadrunner.com">g. crabtree</A> ; <A
title=vision2020@moscow.com
href="mailto:vision2020@moscow.com">vision2020@moscow.com</A> ; <A
title=msolomon@moscow.com href="mailto:msolomon@moscow.com">Mark
Solomon</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Thursday, October 18, 2007 5:20
PM</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: [Vision2020] Water
Concern?</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial>Gary says, while discussing Mark's suggestion that
the Wanapum aquifer likely will be in crisis mode in 15-20
years:</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial></FONT>"Could be 50-75 years, could be 115-120
years? Could be we really don't know <BR>for sure? Could be that Krauss,
Carscallen, and Steed have as firm a handle <BR>on the water situation
as any of the MCA candidates do."</DIV></BLOCKQUOTE>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial>Not so, Gary. The GMA candidates are
"ostriches" with their collective heads in the sand. And they are
very poor stewards of the environment. </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial>I think if you follow the usage curves for when the
Wanapum got depleted once before, our current usage curves
and increase in number of wells going dry shows that we are
going down the same path and very likely going to be facing the "crisis"
referenced by Mark in about 15-20 years (not the century or more that
you speculate) -- unless we do something to curb usage of the
Wanapum. We had to do this once before, more than 40 years ago,
when we essentially stopped pumping the Wanapum in the City of
Moscow because the Wanapum was going dry. We (City of Moscow)
punched a well into the Grand Ronde aquifer and started pumping it,
instead, which allowed the Wanapum to re-charge. We started
drawing on the Wanapum again, more recently (80s?), and the
usage is tracking what went on in the first half to mid-20th
century.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial>I have several nearby friends within a mile of
Moscow whose wells have gone dry this year. It is fact, not a mirage
or doomsaying, and the failure of the GMA candidates to learn from history
while they watch it repeat itself is quite remarkable. I would
suggest that it shows just how foolhardy they are, and I really get a kick
out of those GMA PAC ads showing swimmers splashing around in lots of
water, while their candidates essentially say "use more and grow green
lawns," and "don't worry about frittering it away; since Pullman is,
we should too."</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial>That race to consume, just like WSU's decision to
throw 50 million gallons on a golf course, is environmentally
irresponsible conduct of a very high order. GMA candidates don't
chastise Pullman for that; they instead assert that we shouldn't bother to
conserve and not have green lawns, since they're not conserving
across the border in Pullman and at WSU. </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial>I'll take the more responsible attitude of the MCA
candidates. No surprise there, of course. </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial>We'll watch out for our water. We'll
protect property rights and value in doing so, while protecting
neighborhoods and encouraging development that creates real jobs that
drive an economy, not just retail and housing. </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial></FONT><FONT face=Arial></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial><A
href="http://www.moscowcivic.org/">http://www.moscowcivic.org/</A></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial>And we will continue to do responsible things that
are good for the City of Moscow, like opposing the Naylor Farms strip
mining project, unlike the GMA. </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial>Bruce</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial>----- Original Message ----- </FONT>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial>From: "g. crabtree" <</FONT><A
href="mailto:jampot@roadrunner.com"><FONT
face=Arial>jampot@roadrunner.com</FONT></A><FONT
face=Arial>></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial>To: "Joe Campbell" <</FONT><A
href="mailto:joekc@adelphia.net"><FONT
face=Arial>joekc@adelphia.net</FONT></A><FONT face=Arial>>;
<</FONT><A href="mailto:vision2020@moscow.com"><FONT
face=Arial>vision2020@moscow.com</FONT></A><FONT face=Arial>>; "Mark
Solomon" <</FONT><A href="mailto:msolomon@moscow.com"><FONT
face=Arial>msolomon@moscow.com</FONT></A><FONT
face=Arial>></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial>Sent: Thursday, October 18, 2007 3:33
PM</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial>Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Water
Concern?</FONT></DIV></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial><BR></FONT></DIV><FONT face=Arial>>I assume the
statement that includes "...regarding<BR>> the upper aquifer which if
continued to be pumped at current levels could be <BR>> in crisis as
soon as 15-20 years from now." is couched that way to leave <BR>> room
for the obvious corollary?<BR>> <BR>> Could be 50-75 years, could be
115-120 years? Could be we really don't know <BR>> for sure? Could be
that Krauss, Carscallen, and Steed have as firm a handle <BR>> on the
water situation as any of the MCA candidates do.<BR>> <BR>>
g<BR>> ----- Original Message ----- <BR>> From: "Mark Solomon"
<</FONT><A href="mailto:msolomon@moscow.com"><FONT
face=Arial>msolomon@moscow.com</FONT></A><FONT face=Arial>><BR>> To:
"Joe Campbell" <</FONT><A href="mailto:joekc@adelphia.net"><FONT
face=Arial>joekc@adelphia.net</FONT></A><FONT face=Arial>>;
<</FONT><A href="mailto:vision2020@moscow.com"><FONT
face=Arial>vision2020@moscow.com</FONT></A><FONT face=Arial>><BR>>
Sent: Thursday, October 18, 2007 2:34 PM<BR>> Subject: Re: [Vision2020]
Water Concern?<BR>> <BR>> <BR>>> I'd suggest the GMA
candidates do some homework and actually read<BR>>> some of the
studies/reports on our aquifer, particularly regarding<BR>>> the
upper aquifer which if continued to be pumped at current
levels<BR>>> could be in crisis as soon as 15-20 years from now.
That aquifer<BR>>> currently supplies 30% of Moscow's
water.<BR>>><BR>>> m.<BR>>><BR>>> At 11:51 AM
-0700 10/18/07, Joe Campbell wrote:<BR>>>> >From the
Johnson article noted above:<BR>>>><BR>>>>"I think it's
been used as a way to stop growth in our town and I<BR>>>>don't
think that's a great idea," Carscallen said of the water
issue.<BR>>>><BR>>>>"We don't have a water emergency. I
think most of us can agree to<BR>>>>that," said Krauss. "We could
have, at the least, 200 years of water<BR>>>>left. ... But right
now, folks, I'm just really tired of seeing all<BR>>>>our yards
just burned up, including the cemetery."<BR>>>><BR>>>>"I
know that there are people who believe that we should
be<BR>>>>showering with 5-gallon buckets, to flush our toilets
with when we<BR>>>>get through," said Steed. "And I really don't
want to live that way."<BR>>>><BR>>>>Carscallen, Krauss
and Ste! ed are all endorsed by the
GMA.<BR>>>><BR>>>>--<BR>>>>Joe
Campbell<BR>>><BR>>>
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