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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>And what are the MCA candidates doing about the
problem, aside from alienating our neighbors to the west? Are the incumbent
candidates up to their knees in plans for collecting surface water run off?
Aquifer recharge schemes? Pumping from local watercourses? Anything other than
running the gums and using the issue to stifle growth to whatever extent
possible? </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>g</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV
style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: black"><B>From:</B>
<A title=ophite@gmail.com href="mailto:ophite@gmail.com">Andreas Schou</A>
</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A title=jampot@roadrunner.com
href="mailto:jampot@roadrunner.com">g. crabtree</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Cc:</B> <A title=jeanlivingston@turbonet.com
href="mailto:jeanlivingston@turbonet.com">Bruce and Jean Livingston</A> ; <A
title=vision2020@moscow.com
href="mailto:vision2020@moscow.com">vision2020@moscow.com</A> ; <A
title=jeffh@moscow.com href="mailto:jeffh@moscow.com">Jeff Harkins</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Friday, October 19, 2007 8:34
AM</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: [Vision2020] Water
Concern?</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>Gary --<BR><BR>So, what you're saying is that the GMA
candidates believe that there is a serious problem with water usage in
Moscow--they just refuse, on principle, to do anything whatsoever about
it?<BR><BR>-- ACS<BR><BR>
<DIV><SPAN class=gmail_quote>On 10/19/07, <B class=gmail_sendername>g.
crabtree</B> <<A
href="mailto:jampot@roadrunner.com">jampot@roadrunner.com</A>>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>To refer to Dan, Wayne, and Walt as the water
wasting candidates is electioneering at its absolute worst. Clearly the guys
are in favor of reasonable conservation measures and are as concerned for
the future of Moscow as the candidates you so fervently support. They just
don't use the issue as a bludgeon to force the community to conform
itself to their preferred model. (with your candidates that appears to be
Berkley circa 1968) So far your side has trotted out the "they hate kids"
spiel and the "they want to flush our water down the drain"
prevarication. What next, accusations of wife beating, treason, and a
general contempt for apple pie?</FONT></DIV><SPAN class=sg>
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<A title=jeanlivingston@turbonet.com
onclick="return top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)"
href="mailto:jeanlivingston@turbonet.com" target=_blank>Bruce and Jean
Livingston</A> </DIV>
<DIV
style="FONT: 10pt arial; font-size-adjust: none; font-stretch: normal"><B>To:</B>
<A title=ophite@gmail.com
onclick="return top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)"
href="mailto:ophite@gmail.com" target=_blank>Andreas Schou</A> ; <A
title=vision2020@moscow.com
onclick="return top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)"
href="mailto:vision2020@moscow.com"
target=_blank>vision2020@moscow.com</A> ; <A title=jeffh@moscow.com
onclick="return top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)"
href="mailto:jeffh@moscow.com" target=_blank>Jeff Harkins</A> </DIV>
<DIV
style="FONT: 10pt arial; font-size-adjust: none; font-stretch: normal"><B>Sent:</B>
Thursday, October 18, 2007 11:38 PM</DIV>
<DIV
style="FONT: 10pt arial; font-size-adjust: none; font-stretch: normal"><B>Subject:</B>
Re: [Vision2020] Water Concern?</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>
<DIV>In part, Jeff says:</DIV>
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<DIV>| And frankly, I have not heard any of the statements you attribute
to <BR>| Wayne Krauss, Walter Steed or Dan Carscallen. And if they
did make <BR>| those remarks, please tell me where and
when.</DIV></BLOCKQUOTE>
<DIV>For statements by your candidates, Jeff, if those statements already
provided for you in this forum by David Johnson of the Lewiston Tribune,
or the KLEW transcript, or the Daily News, all of which have already been
provided to your candidates shame, why don't you look forward to the live
recordings of their answers at the Chamber forum, all of which will
soon be available on-line and on "you tube"? </DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>Since they've been recorded and will be placed on-line, it will be
especially interesting to see how the GMA's water-wasting candidates try
to deal with their insensitive and environmentally unsound theories,
knowing that the flip flop is waiting to be recorded, too.</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>I agree with you that all candidates,
MCA-endorsed, GMA-endorsed, and Evan Homes (the independent candidate
running on his own), believe that they are "for" the community, and
so on and so forth. But the vision of all is not the same, and the
vision of the GMA candidates -- Naylor Farms mine loving, all retail
loving, water wasting candidates -- does not fit with Moscow. </DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>I am convinced that Linda, Aaron, and Tom are the best
candidates. Of course, that is only my opinion. And
though I was waiting to see what was up with Walter and Evan, and we at
the MCA have not endorsed Evan, Evan's astute answers on economic
development and water are convincing me that he is the better
choice.</DIV>
<DIV><BR>Bruce</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>P.S. Since I am not positive that the Daily News article, that
included the candidates' water statements, had been presented on this
forum, I will copy it here.</DIV>
<DIV>
<H2>Moscow City Council candidates dive into water issues </H2>
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<P style="MARGIN-TOP: 0px; FONT-SIZE: 12px; MARGIN-BOTTOM: 0px"><FONT
size=3>Tara Roberts, Daily News staff writer</FONT></P>
<P style="FONT-SIZE: 10px"><FONT size=3>Thursday, October 18, 2007 - Page
Updated at 12:00:00 AM</FONT></P><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 14px">
<P><FONT size=3>Moscow City Council candidates were divided on issues of
water and economic development at the Moscow Chamber of Commerce forum
Wednesday.</FONT></P>
<P><FONT size=3>Due to time constraints, the candidates were able to
answer just three questions. Chamber board member Mark Loaiza, who is on
the Palouse Basin Aquifer Committee citizens advisory board, asked the
candidates to explain their views on water regulation in Moscow and what
the city should do to sustain water resources.</FONT></P>
<P><FONT size=3>All the candidates voiced support for PBAC, but disagreed
about whether Moscow is facing a declining water source.</FONT></P>
<P><FONT size=3>Four-year candidate Dan Carscallen said he does not
believe there is a water supply problem, but the city should explore other
water sources for when there is a problem.</FONT></P>
<P><FONT size=3>"We can't just be one-note on the water situation,"
Carscallen said. "I think it's been used as a way to stop growth in our
city."</FONT></P>
<P><FONT size=3>Two-year candidate Walter Steed and four-year candidate
Wayne Krauss agreed with Carscallen that there is no immediate
emergency.</FONT></P>
<P><FONT size=3>Steed said he's seen conflicting statistics about the
Grande Ronde aquifer, which serves as Moscow's primary water source. He
believes engineers can find empirical evidence to show if there truly is a
problem.</FONT></P>
<P><FONT size=3>Steed said he felt somewhat like he was talking "out of
both sides of (his) mouth" by questioning Moscow's rising water rates. In
his job as a consultant, he's encouraged other communities to raise their
water rates. Still, he is concerned that people in Moscow cannot afford to
water their lawns.</FONT></P>
<P><FONT size=3>Krauss also lamented the loss of green lawns in
Moscow.</FONT></P>
<P><FONT size=3>"Folks, I'm tired of seeing all our yards just burned up,
including the cemetery," he said.</FONT></P>
<P><FONT size=3>Krauss said there could be 200 years worth of water left
in the aquifer, but the city should consider how it's "going to stabilize
our situation." He questioned whether it is worth it to conserve water in
Moscow when more water is being used in Pullman.</FONT></P>
<P><FONT size=3>Two-year candidate Evan Holmes said Moscow needs to
protect its quality drinking water, calling it an essential part of the
city's wealth.</FONT></P>
<P><FONT size=3>Holmes said he's not sure if more study into the aquifer
situation is needed.</FONT></P>
<P><FONT size=3>"More conservation and more study doesn't necessarily
yield more water," he said.</FONT></P>
<P><FONT size=3>Holmes said the city should have a plan in place for
another water source, such as a reservoir, and begin putting money toward
it.</FONT></P>
<P><FONT size=3>Four-year candidate and current council member Aaron Ament
said the city knows the water level in the Grand Ronde is dropping, which
should be "a signal to conserve what we have."</FONT></P>
<P><FONT size=3>Four-year candidate and current council member Tom Lamar,
who also is executive director of the Palouse-Clearwater Environmental
Institute, said the city should be a good steward of water
resources.</FONT></P>
<P><FONT size=3>"I think water conservation is critical," he
said.</FONT></P>
<P><FONT size=3>The aquifer levels continue to drop even when the city
uses less water, Lamar said. He encourages recovering water in reservoirs
or rainwater catchment systems. People should not forget about
surface-water resources such as Paradise Creek, and be aware of how they
are affected by the city's stormwater and wastewater decisions.</FONT></P>
<P><FONT size=3>Four-year candidate and current council member Linda Pall
agreed that water conservation is important. She said the city's
conservation mechanisms are working well.</FONT></P>
<P><FONT size=3>"My issue with water is we have a limited supply, we don't
know how much we have and our straw is taking out quite a bit from the
aquifer right now," she said.</FONT></P>
<P><FONT size=3>She said the city has a budget item for future studies for
a possible reservoir.</FONT></P>
<P><FONT size=3></FONT></P>
<P><FONT size=3></FONT><STRONG></STRONG></P>
<P><FONT size=3>Economic development</FONT></P>
<P><FONT size=3>Chamber of Commerce board member Gary Hagen asked the
candidates what role the city should play in economic
development.</FONT></P>
<P><FONT size=3>Pall reiterated her desire for a city economic development
coordinator, which she tried and failed to have included in the 2008 city
budget. She said it is important to have someone "take care of the
follow-through for the city's economic development priorities."</FONT></P>
<P><FONT size=3>Ament said he supports the idea of a city development
coordinator. He also would like to see the chamber reach out to a wider
group, and more downtown businesses to join the chamber.</FONT></P>
<P><FONT size=3>"There is work to be done and I encourage the chamber in
its outreach to our area's businesses," Ament said.</FONT></P>
<P><FONT size=3>He said economic development includes caring about public
education, water resources and helping the city's existing tax
base.</FONT></P>
<P><FONT size=3>Lamar said growth should focus on expanding the city's
existing businesses. Business owners have told him they stay in Moscow
because of the quality of life.</FONT></P>
<P><FONT size=3>He said the city needs a long-term vision for its
economy.</FONT></P>
<P><FONT size=3>"I have a belief that a strong economy is dependent on a
strong environment and a strong community," he said.</FONT></P>
<P><FONT size=3>Holmes emphasized economic stability, a key topic in his
campaign. He said the city should focus on planning for growth in a way
that isn't divisive or "willy-nilly."</FONT></P>
<P><FONT size=3>"Economic development doesn't really happen at the City
Council level or at the voter level," he said. "It really happens when
investors are willing to take risks on your city."</FONT></P>
<P><FONT size=3>Holmes said growth should not focus on retail, but retail
should result from other types of economic development.</FONT></P>
<P><FONT size=3>On the other hand, Steed said Moscow needs to increase its
shopping opportunities to make it more attractive to people.</FONT></P>
<P><FONT size=3>Steed said he sees the Latah Economic Development Council
and chamber as marketers for the community. The city's role is to pass
zoning laws, help existing businesses and bring in more businesses.
</FONT></P>
<P><FONT size=3>Carscallen said the city should work in the background of
economic development, applying its codes to businesses that want to locate
in town.</FONT></P>
<P><FONT size=3>Krauss said the city should work on improving its economic
image and assisting developers with their goals to locate in Moscow. Some
people perceive the community as unwelcoming to businesses.</FONT></P>
<P><FONT size=3>"If that's a perception, why do we have it?" Krauss
asked.</FONT></P>
<P><FONT size=3></FONT><STRONG></STRONG></P>
<P><FONT size=3>Public transportation</FONT></P>
<P><FONT size=3>The candidates were more in harmony on issues of public
transportation. Forum moderator Mark Boehne asked what the city can do to
improve public transportation.</FONT></P>
<P><FONT size=3>Several candidates commended the work of Tom La Pointe,
director of Valley Transit.</FONT></P>
<P><FONT size=3>"I think the best thing we can do is whatever Tom La
Pointe tells us to," Carscallen said.</FONT></P>
<P><FONT size=3>Many candidates said the bus system has grown and will
continue to grow. Ament said the city has increased its funding for Moscow
Valley Transit over the past few years.</FONT></P>
<P><FONT size=3>"This is clearly something our community supports," he
said.</FONT></P>
<P><FONT size=3>Ament and Lamar said they'd like to see funds generated to
add a third route and increase the bus system's hours. Holmes said the
city grant writer should put efforts toward finding funds.</FONT></P>
<P><FONT size=3>Lamar said it is vital to continue the Wheatland Express
bus service between Moscow and Pullman, and Krauss said the city should
consider utilizing the rail lines between the cities for
transportation.</FONT></P>
<P><FONT size=3>Steed, who was a founding member of the Transportation
Commission with Lamar, said the city should focus on "multimodal"
transportation and connect sidewalks as well as support the bus
system.</FONT></P>
<P><FONT size=3>Krauss also said the city should consider creating a
trolley system, an idea he heard from Pall.</FONT></P>
<P><FONT size=3>Pall called the trolley idea "light, light rail" and
suggested routes from the University of Idaho Administration Building to
Friendship Square and from Friendship Square around the city to Mountain
View Road.</FONT></P>
<P><FONT size=3>The trolley idea is a ways in the future, Pall said. If it
is ever a reality, it will need the support of the UI.</FONT></P>
<P><FONT size=3>"We absolutely need their help and support to make public
transportation work," Pall said.</FONT></P>
<P><FONT size=3><IMG src="http://www.dnews.com/images/square.gif"
border=0>Other forums will be 11:30 a.m. Friday at the Best
Western-University Inn, sponsored by the AARP, and at 7 p.m. Tuesday in
the Moscow High School Auditorium, sponsored by the League of Women Voters
and the Moscow-Pullman Daily News. </FONT></P>
<P><FONT size=3><STRONG>Tara Roberts </STRONG>can be reached at (208)
882-5561, ext. 234, or by e-mail at <A
onclick="return top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)"
href="mailto:troberts@dnews.com"
target=_blank>troberts@dnews.com</A>.</FONT></P></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>----- Original Message -----
<DIV>From: "Jeff Harkins" <<A
onclick="return top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)"
href="mailto:jeffh@moscow.com"
target=_blank>jeffh@moscow.com</A>></DIV>
<DIV>To: "Andreas Schou" <<A
onclick="return top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)"
href="mailto:ophite@gmail.com" target=_blank>ophite@gmail.com</A>>;
<<A onclick="return top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)"
href="mailto:vision2020@moscow.com" target=_blank>
vision2020@moscow.com</A>></DIV>
<DIV>Sent: Thursday, October 18, 2007 10:48 PM</DIV>
<DIV>Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Water Concern?</DIV></DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>| If the facts are so readily available, please enlighten
us all.<BR>| <BR>| I've read all the material from the last several water
forums, <BR>| committees and so forth. There is certainly no
consensus evident <BR>| from the materials I read. Do you have a
particular source or <BR>| reference that would validate your
statements?<BR>| <BR>| And frankly, I have not heard any of the statements
you attribute to <BR>| Wayne Krauss, Walter Steed or Dan Carscallen.
And if they did make <BR>| those remarks, please tell me where and
when.<BR>| <BR>| You raise an interesting point about relations with
Pullman and <BR>| tangentially with Whitman officials. I have
visited with a couple of <BR>| elected officials from Pullman and from
Whitman. It was made rather <BR>| clear to me that Pullman would
have been delighted to talk with <BR>| Moscow officials about the various
water issues and policies and <BR>| other matters of concern between our
two communities. But, in their <BR>| mind, the contacts from our
side have more or less poisoned that well <BR>| - when you threaten to sue
your neighbors, when you interfere in <BR>| their activities, and attempt
to coerce them to agree with you - it <BR>| does make it difficult to have
a dialogue.<BR>| <BR>| Wayne Krauss, Walter Steed and Dan Carscallen are
probably our best <BR>| choices for bringing reason and rationale to the
political quagmire <BR>| we find ourselves in now.<BR>| <BR>| On the
bright side, a change in our management may offer another <BR>| chance to
revisit Pullman officials, to open some doors, to have some <BR>|
conversations, etc. I suspect Pullman would be very willing to work
<BR>| with us, but I am fairly certain they have no interest in working
for <BR>| us. They are charting their own course - as is their right
and responsibility.<BR>| <BR>| Please let me know if you can provide me
with citations about the <BR>| statements you attribute to Walter, Wayne
and Dan. Also, any new <BR>| studies that affirm your claims about
the aquifer status and its <BR>| future would also be helpful.<BR>| <BR>|
<BR>| At 10:10 PM 10/18/2007, you wrote:<BR>| >Jeff --<BR>| ><BR>|
>You've confused opinions with facts.<BR>| ><BR>| >The GMA
candidates have the right to whatever opinions they like. They<BR>|
>can believe that it will be fine if we reach the bottom of the<BR>|
>aquifer. They can believe that we can get water from elsewhere at<BR>|
>reasonable cost. They can believe that we can negotiate with
Pullman<BR>| >to keep them from depleting our shared aquifer at an
unreasonable<BR>| >rate. All of these things are reasonable
opinions.<BR>| ><BR>| >Wrong, but reasonable.<BR>| ><BR>| >The
issue of whether we are depleting our aquifer at a rate greater<BR>|
>than the rate of replenishment isn't a matter of opinion. It is a<BR>|
>matter of fact. Similar, for instance, to the fact that the Earth
is<BR>| >getting warmer. GMA can either provide its own
peer-reviewed<BR>| >projections or start talking about the facts as
they exist.<BR>| ><BR>| >Wishful thinking is not a water
policy.<BR>| ><BR>| >-- ACS<BR>| ><BR>| ><BR>| >On
10/18/07, Jeff Harkins <<A
onclick="return top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)"
href="mailto:jeffh@moscow.com" target=_blank>jeffh@moscow.com</A>>
wrote:<BR>| > ><BR>| > > Gary, good to see your clear
and concise comments making a difference.<BR>| > > Here are some of
my observations.<BR>| > ><BR>| > > Ideologues are all
around us in this region. They have no solution to<BR>| > >
resolve the water issue (or much of any other issue) but they follow
the<BR>| > > same tactic used since the creation of the MCA;
fear, intimidation,<BR>| > > heckling and smearing are their
tools. If you support an organization like<BR>| > > GMA, you
are publicly chided for supporting candidates endorsed <BR>| > by
them. In<BR>| > > other words, you don't know as much as the
MCA people and therefore your<BR>| > > voices and your opinions
don't matter.<BR>| > ><BR>| > > Frankly, all the
candidates for city council seem to be honest, <BR>| > sincere and<BR>|
> > interested in doing what they perceive to be the best things for
the<BR>| > > community. But when the actions of supporters
and/or candidates sense a<BR>| > > challenge to their "vision for
Moscow", rather than debate the issue, they<BR>| > > turn on the
candidate and chide them for their opinions. Wayne Krauss,<BR>| >
> Walter Steed and Dan Carscallen are all honorable men. They
have <BR>| > spent most<BR>| > > of their adult lives in this
community. They have a right to be <BR>| > respected -<BR>| >
> for their views, for their willingness to step up to the challenge of
city<BR>| > > council and for their willingness to engage in
honorable debate with<BR>| > > candidates that they don't agree
with.<BR>| > ><BR>| > > In a similar vein, Linda Pall,
Aaron Ament, Tom Lamar and Evin Holmes are<BR>| > > honorable folks.
Most have spent a good portion of their adult lives in<BR>| > >
Moscow and they should be respected for their willingness to serve
our<BR>| > > community.<BR>| > ><BR>| > > To
indict any of them for their opinions and views on a topic simply<BR>|
> > validates that our citizens should not vote for the candidate
the indictors<BR>| > > are supporting but should vote for the
candidate being scalloped. Issues<BR>| > > and answers and
policies such as the water question are founded first in<BR>| > >
science. Let the science do the talking - report studies, provide
links to<BR>| > > the scientific evidence, establish the proposition
of your hypothesis and<BR>| > > then talk about strategies for
solutions. It is "very difficult" <BR>| > to resolve<BR>| >
> a problem with rhetoric and finger pointing (Joe and Bruce, you
are<BR>| > > encouraged to think about this very carefully).<BR>|
> ><BR>| > > This coming election will say a lot about
our community and about the<BR>| > > future we chart for
ourselves. It is time for the hand-wringers to move to<BR>| >
> the sidelines. We need decisive, thoughtful and forthright
leadership to<BR>| > > guide us through the challenges that lay
ahead. Will we have a community<BR>| > > that can support our
children and the children of our children? Will we be<BR>| > >
able to welcome new residents with a bundle of opportunities that
entices<BR>| > > them to stay or will we winnow them out - because
they don't fit into our<BR>| > > lifestyle? Will we have the
type of community that encourages <BR>| > entrepreneurs<BR>| > >
to come here and risk their investment capital here or will we worry<BR>|
> > ourselves to death over whether or not this business or that
business is<BR>| > > "acceptable"? What I have learned from
listening to the forums this past<BR>| > > couple of years is that
even if Santa Claus wanted to move his operation<BR>| > > here,
there would be at least a handful of people who would object to that<BR>|
> > move.<BR>| > ><BR>| > > For my taste, it is
time for a change in Moscow.<BR>| > ><BR>| > ><BR>| >
> At 07:02 PM 10/18/2007, you wrote:<BR>| > ><BR>| >
> Conservation can never be a bad idea but using the water issue as a
club to<BR>| > > force other ideological visions on the community
where they don't <BR>| > apply (big<BR>| > > box ordinances for
one example) is disingenuous. I don't believe that the<BR>| > > GMA
endorsed candidates are suggesting that we make a desperate attempt
to<BR>| > > suck the aquifer dry before their terms expire. To
suggest otherwise is<BR>| > > simply partisan politics at its
worst.<BR>| > ><BR>| > > g<BR>| > > -----
Original Message -----<BR>| > > From: "Tom Hansen" <<A
onclick="return top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)"
href="mailto:thansen@moscow.com"
target=_blank>thansen@moscow.com</A>><BR>| > > To: "'g.
crabtree'" <<A onclick="return top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)"
href="mailto:jampot@roadrunner.com"
target=_blank>jampot@roadrunner.com</A>>; "'Joe Campbell'"<BR>| >
> <<A onclick="return top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)"
href="mailto:joekc@adelphia.net" target=_blank>joekc@adelphia.net</A>>;
<<A onclick="return top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)"
href="mailto:vision2020@moscow.com" target=_blank>
vision2020@moscow.com</A>>; "'Mark Solomon'"<BR>| > > <<A
onclick="return top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)"
href="mailto:msolomon@moscow.com"
target=_blank>msolomon@moscow.com</A>><BR>| > > Sent:
Thursday, October 18, 2007 4:29 PM<BR>| > > Subject: RE:
[Vision2020] Water Concern?<BR>| > ><BR>| > > >g
-<BR>| > > ><BR>| > > > You suggested that
perhaps none of the city council candidates have a<BR>| > >
firm<BR>| > > > handle on the water situation.<BR>| >
> ><BR>| > > > If this is true, wouldn't it be
better advised to err on the side of<BR>| > > >
caution?<BR>| > > ><BR>| > > > Both Lamar
and Ament cited PBAC as authorities on the figures they<BR>| > >
presented<BR>| > > > yesterday at the CofC Forum.
Krauss cited "something [he] read<BR>| > > somewhere"<BR>| >
> > and Steed simply wants to remove limitations and
controls.<BR>| > > ><BR>| > > > Your
thoughts?<BR>| > > ><BR>| > > > Seeya round
town, Moscow.<BR>| > > ><BR>| > > > Tom
Hansen<BR>| > > > Moscow, Idaho<BR>| > >
><BR>| > > > "We're a town of about 23,000 with 10,000
college students. The college<BR>| > > > students are not
very active in local elections (thank goodness!)."<BR>| > >
><BR>| > > > - Dale Courtney (March 28, 2007)<BR>| >
> ><BR>| > > > -----Original Message-----<BR>|
> > ><BR>| > > > From: <A
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> > On Behalf Of g. crabtree<BR>| > > > Sent:
Thursday, October 18, 2007 3:33 PM<BR>| > > > To: Joe
Campbell; <A onclick="return top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)"
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> Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Water Concern?<BR>| > >
><BR>| > > > I assume the statement that includes
"...regarding<BR>| > > > the upper aquifer which if
continued to be pumped at current <BR>| > levels could<BR>| > >
be<BR>| > > ><BR>| > > > in crisis as soon
as 15-20 years from now." is couched that way to leave<BR>| >
> > room for the obvious corollary?<BR>| > >
><BR>| > > > Could be 50-75 years, could be 115-120
years? Could be we really don't<BR>| > > know<BR>| > >
> for sure? Could be that Krauss, Carscallen, and Steed have as firm
a<BR>| > > handle<BR>| > > > on the water situation
as any of the MCA candidates do.<BR>| > > ><BR>| >
> > g<BR>| > > ><BR>| > > ><BR>|
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