<html><head><style type="text/css"><!-- DIV {margin:0px;} --></style></head><body><div style="font-family:times new roman, new york, times, serif;font-size:12pt"><div style="font-family: times new roman,new york,times,serif; font-size: 12pt;">Tom,<br><br>Is there some logical reason why there are so many errors in most of your posts that you need to resend them as [CORRECTED]?&nbsp; If you can't be careful enough to proof read your emails or check the links before sending them, can you at least email them to yourself, then check them for accuracy, and finally forward them to v2020 so that there aren't so many virtually duplicate emails from you - as if we didn't already have enough to begin with.<br><br>-Scott<br><br><div style="font-family: times new roman,new york,times,serif; font-size: 12pt;">----- Original Message ----<br>From: Tom Hansen &lt;thansen@moscow.com&gt;<br>To: Moscow Vision 2020 &lt;vision2020@moscow.com&gt;<br>Sent: Tuesday, October 16,
 2007 4:07:38 PM<br>Subject: [Vision2020] [CORRECTED LINKS] The Human Toll<br><br>



 
 

 

 

 

 

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<p class="MsoNormal"><font face="Arial" size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial;">"The notion that we ought to now go to
 Baghdad and somehow take control of the
country strikes me as an extremely serious one in terms of what we'd have to do
once we got there. You'd probably have to put some new government in place.
It's not clear what kind of government that would be, how long you'd have to
stay. For the U.S. to get involved militarily in determining the outcome of the
struggle over who's going to govern in Iraq strikes me as a classic definition
of a quagmire." - Dick Cheney, 1991 </span></font></p> 

<p class="MsoNormal"><font face="Arial" size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial;"><a target="_blank" href="http://www.tomandrodna.com/Stuff/Cheney_Quagmire.mp3">http://www.tomandrodna.com/Stuff/Cheney_Quagmire.mp3</a> </span></font></p> 

<p class="MsoNormal"><font face="Arial" size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial;"> &nbsp;</span></font></p> 

<p class="MsoNormal"><font face="Arial" size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial;">And Dick Cheney again in 1994</span></font></p> 

<p class="MsoNormal"><font face="Arial" size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial;"><a rel="nofollow" target="_blank" href="http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=9a8_1186873756">http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=9a8_1186873756</a></span></font></p> 

<p class="MsoNormal"><font face="Arial" size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial;"> &nbsp;</span></font></p> 

<p class="MsoNormal"><font face="Arial" size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial;">-------------------------------</span></font></p> 

<p class="MsoNormal"><font face="Arial" size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial;"> &nbsp;</span></font></p> 

<p class="MsoNormal"><font face="Arial" size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial;">"I think Rumsfeld, Cheney, and the president made a big
mistake in justifying going into the war in
 Iraq . They put the emphasis on
weapons of mass destruction." - Gerald R. Ford (July 28, 2004)</span></font></p> 

<p class="MsoNormal"><font face="Arial" size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial;"><a rel="nofollow" target="_blank" href="http://www.tomandrodna.com/Stuff/Ford_Iraq_Big_Mistake.mp3">http://www.tomandrodna.com/Stuff/Ford_Iraq_Big_Mistake.mp3</a></span></font></p> 

<p class="MsoNormal"><font face="Arial" size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial;">&nbsp;</span></font></p> 

<p class="MsoNormal"><font face="Arial" size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial;">---------------------------------------------------------------------------</span></font></p> 

<p class="MsoNormal"><font face="Arial" size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial;"> &nbsp;</span></font></p> 

<p class="MsoNormal"><font face="Arial" size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial;">From the October 22, 2007 edition of the Army Times
-&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; </span></font></p> 

<p class="MsoNormal"><font face="Arial" size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial;"> &nbsp;</span></font></p> 

<p class="MsoNormal"><font face="Arial" size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial;">-------------------------------</span></font></p> 

<p class="MsoNormal"><font face="Arial" size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial;"> &nbsp;</span></font></p> 

<p class="MsoNormal"><font face="Arial" size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial;">U.S.</span></font><font face="Arial" size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial;"> service
members who died while supporting combat operations in
 Iraq , confirmed
by the Defense Department from October 5 through October 11:</span></font></p> 

<p class="MsoNormal"><font face="Arial" size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial;"> &nbsp;</span></font></p> 

<p class="MsoNormal"><font face="Arial" size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial;">Army Spc. Frank L. Cady III, 20, of Sacramento, California;
assigned to the 4th Special Troops Battalion, 4th Infantry Brigade Combat Team,
1st Infantry Division, Fort Riley, Kansas.</span></font></p> 

<p class="MsoNormal"><font face="Arial" size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial;"> &nbsp;</span></font></p> 

<p class="MsoNormal"><font face="Arial" size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial;">Army Staff Sgt. Lillian Clamens, 35, of Lawton, Oklahoma;
assigned to the 1st Postal Platoon, 834th Adjutant General Company, Miami,
Florida.</span></font></p> 

<p class="MsoNormal"><font face="Arial" size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial;"> &nbsp;</span></font></p> 

<p class="MsoNormal"><font face="Arial" size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial;">Army Pfc. Kenneth J. Iwasinski, 22, of West Springfield,
Massachusetts; assigned to 2nd Battalion, 12th Infantry Regiment, 2nd Brigade
Combat Team, 2nd Infantry Division,&nbsp; Fort Carson, Colorado.</span></font></p> 

<p class="MsoNormal"><font face="Arial" size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial;"> &nbsp;</span></font></p> 

<p class="MsoNormal"><font face="Arial" size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial;">Army Spc. Jason B. Koutroubas, 21, of Dunnellon, Florida; assigned
to Special Troops Battalion, 4th Brigade Combat Team, 1st Cavalry Division,
Fort Bliss, Texas.</span></font></p> 

<p class="MsoNormal"><font face="Arial" size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial;"> &nbsp;</span></font></p> 

<p class="MsoNormal"><font face="Arial" size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial;">Army Sgt. Jason M. Lantieri, 25, of Killingworth,
Connecticut; assigned to the 725th Brigade Support Battalion, 4th Brigade
Combat Team (Airborne), 25th Infantry Division, Fort Richardson, Alaska.</span></font></p> 

<p class="MsoNormal"><font face="Arial" size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial;"> &nbsp;</span></font></p> 

<p class="MsoNormal"><font face="Arial" size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial;">Army 1st Lt. Thomas M. Martin, 27, of&nbsp; Ward, Arkansas;
assigned to 1st Squadron, 40th Cavalry Regiment, 4th Brigade Combat Team
(Airborne), 25th Infantry Division, Fort Richardson, Alaska. </span></font></p> 

<p class="MsoNormal"><font face="Arial" size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial;"> &nbsp;</span></font></p> 

<p class="MsoNormal"><font face="Arial" size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial;">Army Cpl. Gilberto A. Meza, 21, of Oxnard ,
 California ; assigned to the 3rd Squadron, 2nd
Stryker Cavalry Regiment, Vilseck ,
 Germany .</span></font></p> 

<p class="MsoNormal"><font face="Arial" size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial;"> &nbsp;</span></font></p> 

<p class="MsoNormal"><font face="Arial" size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial;">Army Sgt.1st Class Justin S. Monschke, 28, of
 Krum , Texas ; assigned to
2nd Battalion, 3rd Special Forces Group (Airborne),
 Fort Bragg , North Carolina .</span></font></p> 

<p class="MsoNormal"><font face="Arial" size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial;"> &nbsp;</span></font></p> 

<p class="MsoNormal"><font face="Arial" size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial;">Army Staff Sgt. Donald L. Munn II, 25, of Saint Clairs
Shores, Michigan; assigned to Special Troops Battalion, 1st Cavalry Division,
 Fort Hood , Texas .</span></font></p> 

<p class="MsoNormal"><font face="Arial" size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial;"> &nbsp;</span></font></p> 

<p class="MsoNormal"><font face="Arial" size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial;">Army Spc. Samuel F. Pearson, 28, of Westerville ,
 Ohio ; assigned to the 376th Finance Company, 88th
Regional Readiness Command, Wausau ,
 Wisconsin .</span></font></p> 

<p class="MsoNormal"><font face="Arial" size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial;"> &nbsp;</span></font></p> 

<p class="MsoNormal"><font face="Arial" size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial;">Army Pvt. Nathan Z. Thacker, 18, of Greenbrier, Arkansas;
assigned to the 2nd Battalion, 22nd Infantry Regiment, 1st Brigade Combat Team,
10th Mountain Division, Fort Drum, New York.</span></font></p> 

<p class="MsoNormal"><font face="Arial" size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial;"> &nbsp;</span></font></p> 

<p class="MsoNormal"><font face="Arial" size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial;">October 5 – October 11</span></font></p> 

<p class="MsoNormal"><font face="Arial" size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial;">Killed: 11; wounded in action: 78</span></font></p> 

<p class="MsoNormal"><font face="Arial" size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial;"> &nbsp;</span></font></p> 

<p class="MsoNormal"><font face="Arial" size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial;">March 19, 2003 – October 11, 2007 </span></font></p> 

<p class="MsoNormal"><font face="Arial" size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial;">Killed: 3,811; wounded in action: 28,171</span></font></p> 

<p class="MsoNormal"><font face="Arial" size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial;"> &nbsp;</span></font></p> 

<p class="MsoNormal"><font face="Arial" size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial;">-------------------------------</span></font></p> 

<p class="MsoNormal"><font face="Arial" size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial;"> &nbsp;</span></font></p> 

<p class="MsoNormal"><font face="Arial" size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial;">The following U.S. 
service members died while supporting combat operations in
 Afghanistan ,
confirmed by the Defense Department from October 5 through October 11:</span></font></p> 

<p class="MsoNormal"><font face="Arial" size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial;"> &nbsp;</span></font></p> 

<p class="MsoNormal"><font face="Arial" size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial;">October 5 – October 11</span></font></p> 

<p class="MsoNormal"><font face="Arial" size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial;">Killed: 0; Wounded in action: 25</span></font></p> 

<p class="MsoNormal"><font face="Arial" size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial;"> &nbsp;</span></font></p> 

<p class="MsoNormal"><font face="Arial" size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial;">Oct. 10, 2001 – October 11, 2007</span></font></p> 

<p class="MsoNormal"><font face="Arial" size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial;">Killed: 440; Wounded in action: 1,652</span></font></p> 

<p class="MsoNormal"><font face="Arial" size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial;"> &nbsp;</span></font></p> 

<p class="MsoNormal"><font face="Arial" size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial;">-------------------------------</span></font></p> 

<p class="MsoNormal"><font face="Arial" size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial;"> &nbsp;</span></font></p> 

<p class="MsoNormal"><font face="Arial" size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial;">National Guard (In Federal Status) and Reserve Mobilized </span></font></p> 

<p class="MsoNormal"><font face="Arial" size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial;">(as of October 10, 2007) </span></font></p> 

<p class="MsoNormal"><font face="Arial" size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial;"><a rel="nofollow" target="_blank" href="http://www.defenselink.mil/news/Oct2007/d20071010ngr.pdf">http://www.defenselink.mil/news/Oct2007/d20071010ngr.pdf</a></span></font></p> 

<p class="MsoNormal"><font face="Arial" size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial;"> &nbsp;</span></font></p> 

<p class="MsoNormal"><font face="Arial" size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial;">---------------------------------------------------------------------------</span></font></p> 

<p class="MsoNormal"><font face="Arial" size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial;"> &nbsp;</span></font></p> 

<p class="MsoNormal"><font face="Arial" size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial;">And the beat goes on . . . </span></font></p> 

<p class="MsoNormal"><font face="Arial" size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial;"> &nbsp;</span></font></p> 

<p class="MsoNormal"><font face="Arial" size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial;">"Bring 'em Home"</span></font></p> 

<p class="MsoNormal"><font face="Arial" size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial;"><a rel="nofollow" target="_blank" href="http://www.tomandrodna.com/Songs/Bring_em_home.mp3">http://www.tomandrodna.com/Songs/Bring_em_home.mp3</a></span></font></p> 

<p class="MsoNormal"><font face="Arial" size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial;">&nbsp;</span></font></p> 

<p class="MsoNormal"><font face="Arial" size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial;">"If you love this land of the free </span></font></p> 

<p class="MsoNormal"><font face="Arial" size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial;">Bring 'em home, bring 'em home </span></font></p> 

<p class="MsoNormal"><font face="Arial" size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial;">Bring them back from overseas </span></font></p> 

<p class="MsoNormal"><font face="Arial" size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial;">Bring 'em home, bring 'em home </span></font></p> 

<p class="MsoNormal"><font face="Arial" size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial;"> &nbsp;</span></font></p> 

<p class="MsoNormal"><font face="Arial" size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial;">It will make the politicians sad, I know </span></font></p> 

<p class="MsoNormal"><font face="Arial" size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial;">Bring 'em home, bring 'em home </span></font></p> 

<p class="MsoNormal"><font face="Arial" size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial;">They wanna tangle with their foe </span></font></p> 

<p class="MsoNormal"><font face="Arial" size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial;">Bring 'em home, bring 'em home </span></font></p> 

<p class="MsoNormal"><font face="Arial" size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial;"> &nbsp;</span></font></p> 

<p class="MsoNormal"><font face="Arial" size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial;">They wanna test their grand theories </span></font></p> 

<p class="MsoNormal"><font face="Arial" size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial;">Bring 'em home, bring 'em home </span></font></p> 

<p class="MsoNormal"><font face="Arial" size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial;">With the blood of you and me </span></font></p> 

<p class="MsoNormal"><font face="Arial" size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial;">Bring 'em home, bring 'em home </span></font></p> 

<p class="MsoNormal"><font face="Arial" size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial;"> &nbsp;</span></font></p> 

<p class="MsoNormal"><font face="Arial" size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial;">Now we'll give no more brave young lives </span></font></p> 

<p class="MsoNormal"><font face="Arial" size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial;">Bring 'em home, bring 'em home </span></font></p> 

<p class="MsoNormal"><font face="Arial" size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial;">For the gleam in someone's eyes </span></font></p> 

<p class="MsoNormal"><font face="Arial" size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial;">Bring 'em home, bring 'em home </span></font></p> 

<p class="MsoNormal"><font face="Arial" size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial;"> &nbsp;</span></font></p> 

<p class="MsoNormal"><font face="Arial" size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial;">The men will cheer and the boys will shout </span></font></p> 

<p class="MsoNormal"><font face="Arial" size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial;">Bring 'em home, bring 'em home </span></font></p> 

<p class="MsoNormal"><font face="Arial" size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial;">Yeah and we will all turn out </span></font></p> 

<p class="MsoNormal"><font face="Arial" size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial;">Bring 'em home, bring 'em home </span></font></p> 

<p class="MsoNormal"><font face="Arial" size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial;"> &nbsp;</span></font></p> 

<p class="MsoNormal"><font face="Arial" size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial;">The church bells will ring with joy </span></font></p> 

<p class="MsoNormal"><font face="Arial" size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial;">Bring 'em home, bring 'em home </span></font></p> 

<p class="MsoNormal"><font face="Arial" size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial;">To welcome our darlin' girls and boys </span></font></p> 

<p class="MsoNormal"><font face="Arial" size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial;">Bring 'em home, bring 'em home </span></font></p> 

<p class="MsoNormal"><font face="Arial" size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial;"> &nbsp;</span></font></p> 

<p class="MsoNormal"><font face="Arial" size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial;">We will lift our voice and sound </span></font></p> 

<p class="MsoNormal"><font face="Arial" size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial;">Bring 'em home, bring 'em home </span></font></p> 

<p class="MsoNormal"><font face="Arial" size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial;">Yeah, when Johnny comes marching home </span></font></p> 

<p class="MsoNormal"><font face="Arial" size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial;">Bring 'em home, bring 'em home." </span></font></p> 

<p class="MsoNormal"><font face="Arial" size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial;"> &nbsp;</span></font></p> 

<p class="MsoNormal"><font face="Arial" size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial;">Pro patria, </span></font></p> 

<p class="MsoNormal"><font face="Arial" size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial;"> &nbsp;</span></font></p> 

<p class="MsoNormal"><font face="Arial" size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial;">Tom Hansen </span></font></p> 

<p class="MsoNormal"><font face="Arial" size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial;">Moscow</span></font><font face="Arial" size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial;">,
 Idaho</span></font><font face="Arial" size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial;"></span></font></p> 

<p class="MsoNormal"><font face="Arial" size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial;"> &nbsp;</span></font></p> 

<p class="MsoNormal"><font face="Arial" size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial;">"Patriotism is not a short and frenzied outburst of
emotion but the tranquil and steady dedication of a lifetime." -- Adlai E.
Stevenson, Jr.</span></font></p> 

<p class="MsoNormal"><font face="Arial" size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial;">&nbsp;</span></font></p> 

<p class="MsoNormal"><font face="Arial" size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial;"> &nbsp;</span></font></p> 

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