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<DIV>Bill asks: "<FONT face=Arial size=2>Why is it important for Moscow to
duplicate the fireworks & live music & BBQ food available on July 4 just
8 miles away in Pullman?</FONT>" </DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>Because Moscow is my community, and what I miss most in not having a Fourth
of July celebration is the local communing with neighbors that I
recognize and know? A regional approach to economic development and
water allocation is a great idea. A regional approach to a community
celebration of the Fourth fails to create the community bond that truly local
events, like our Homecomoing Parade last weekend, create. With all of
the people from Pullman and elsewhere at the Pullman celebration, that event
loses loses the community feel for me by being surrounded by people that mostly
we don't know.</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>Bruce Livingston</DIV>
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV>
<DIV
style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: black"><B>From:</B>
<A title=london@moscow.com href="mailto:london@moscow.com">Bill London</A>
</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A title=donovanjarnold2005@yahoo.com
href="mailto:donovanjarnold2005@yahoo.com">Donovan Arnold</A> ; <A
title=graylex@yahoo.com href="mailto:graylex@yahoo.com">Debbie Gray</A> ; <A
title=jeanlivingston@turbonet.com
href="mailto:jeanlivingston@turbonet.com">jeanlivingston</A> ; <A
title=vision2020@moscow.com href="mailto:vision2020@moscow.com">vision2020</A>
</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Tuesday, October 16, 2007 9:09
AM</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: [Vision2020] Friday
Fireworks</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Why is it important for Moscow to duplicate the
fireworks & live music & BBQ food available on July 4 just 8 miles
away in Pullman?</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>BL</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV>
<DIV
style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: black"><B>From:</B>
<A title=donovanjarnold2005@yahoo.com
href="mailto:donovanjarnold2005@yahoo.com">Donovan Arnold</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A title=graylex@yahoo.com
href="mailto:graylex@yahoo.com">Debbie Gray</A> ; <A
title=jeanlivingston@turbonet.com
href="mailto:jeanlivingston@turbonet.com">jeanlivingston</A> ; <A
title=vision2020@moscow.com
href="mailto:vision2020@moscow.com">vision2020</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Monday, October 15, 2007 9:12
PM</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: [Vision2020] Friday
Fireworks</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>
<DIV>My suggestion;</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>Have a BBQ with games, and have MSD children act out scenes from the US
History and the signing of the Declaration. </DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>Get the city and county to match funds raised. Get private businesses
to donate food and supplies in turn allow them to advertise at the event.
Make it a MCA/GMA joined effort to supply the people power. And don't forget
to have a raffle with door prizes. I would hold it that East City Park. Also
invite bands for patriotic music. You can usually find volunteers through
the UI Music Department. </DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>Best,</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>Donovan</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>Just a thought. <BR><BR><B><I>Debbie Gray
<graylex@yahoo.com></I></B> wrote:</DIV>
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style="PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: #1010ff 2px solid">Hmmm.
Maybe this is an opportunity for vision2020<BR>people to put some action
behind all the talk and<BR>figure out a way to fundraise for fireworks for
the<BR>4th? It's a nice community-building activity and<BR>potential
common ground for people to meet and greet<BR>and put aside their
DIFFERENCES and be a community for<BR>a few hours.<BR><BR>Didn't the
firefighters traditionally spearhead this?<BR>Anyone have contacts with
anyone that used to organize<BR>fireworks? If tiny little Elk River can
work up the<BR>fundage to have fireworks, why can't Moscow?<BR>debbie
gray<BR><BR>--- jeanlivingston
<JEANLIVINGSTON@TURBONET.COM><BR>wrote:<BR><BR>> <BR>> I am with
Matt on this one. I have always been<BR>> disappointed since<BR>>
Moscow stopped having a fireworks show or any<BR>> significant kind
of<BR>> community celebration on the Fourth of July. We<BR>> ought
to have one. <BR>> Reading the Declaration of Independence at<BR>>
Freidnship Square is fine,<BR>> but it is not the same as having a
community event<BR>> with music and food<BR>> and fellowship,
followed by a nice fireworks show.<BR>> <BR>> <BR>> Bruce
Livingston<BR>> <BR>> <BR>> -----Original message-----<BR>>
From: Matt Decker mattd2107@hotmail.com<BR>> Date: Sun, 14 Oct 2007
19:09:23 -0700<BR>> To: Tom Hansen thansen@moscow.com,<BR>>
nickgier@adelphia.net<BR>> Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Friday
Fireworks<BR>> <BR>> > <BR>> > Tom,<BR>> > <BR>>
> How do you know his sentiment, when our discussion<BR>> was
private?<BR>> > <BR>> > As to your comments. Me BEEF is with
the city. I<BR>> could care less<BR>> about the fireworks two nights
ago. Wish I was<BR>> there. I only wished<BR>> people in Moscow
would donate money, such as the<BR>> students andothers<BR>> did, so
we could all enjoy, which should be our most<BR>> celebrated<BR>>
holiday, July 4th.<BR>> > I'm not going to whine and cry about it
just<BR>> wondered if others<BR>> thought the way I do.<BR>> >
<BR>> > Tom I can't figure out if you just disagree with<BR>>
everything I say<BR>> because you believe me to be a republican, or if
you<BR>> just can't come<BR>> to a realization that "others" might
have valid<BR>> points. <BR>> > <BR>> > Matt<BR>> >
<BR>> > From: thansen@moscow.com<BR>> > To:
mattd2107@hotmail.com; nickgier@adelphia.net<BR>> > Date: Sun, 14
Oct 2007 15:18:12 -0700<BR>> > CC: vision2020@moscow.com;
privatejf32@hotmail.com<BR>> > Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Friday
Fireworks<BR>> > <BR>> > <BR>> > <BR>> > <BR>>
> <BR>> > <BR>> > <BR>> > <BR>> > <BR>> >
<BR>> > <BR>> > <BR>> > <BR>> > <BR>> >
<BR>> > <BR>> > <BR>> > <BR>> > <BR>> >
<BR>> > <BR>> > <BR>> > <BR>> > <BR>> > I
was merelysupporting Nick Gier’s<BR>> > sentiment, Matt.<BR>>
> <BR>> > <BR>> > <BR>> > You stated:<BR>> >
<BR>> > <BR>> > <BR>> > “As in regards to fireworks.
Why in<BR>> > sams hell can't Moscow<BR>> > have a show on the
forth, but we can have one for<BR>> a homecoming game<BR>> for one
of<BR>> > the worst ranked teams in the nation?<BR>>
Priorities?â€<BR>> > <BR>> > <BR>> > <BR>> > One
question, Matt: Huh?<BR>> > <BR>> > <BR>> > <BR>>
> Your argument might have some meat to it,<BR>> > Matt, if both
instances (Fourth of July fireworks<BR>> and UI Homecoming<BR>>
fireworks)<BR>> > were paid for by the city. Your argument is
with<BR>> the city for not<BR>> > organizing fireworks activities
on the Fourth of<BR>> July. I would most<BR>> > definitely
support your argument there.<BR>> > <BR>> > <BR>> >
<BR>> > Another thing: Your implication that<BR>> > UI should
not have fireworks because their<BR>> football team is doing so<BR>>
poorly<BR>> >lacks rationale to say the least.<BR>> > <BR>>
> <BR>> > <BR>> > <BR>> > <BR>> > Seeya round
town, Moscow.<BR>> > <BR>> > <BR>> > <BR>> > Tom
Hansen<BR>> > <BR>> > Moscow, Idaho<BR>> > <BR>> >
<BR>> > <BR>> > "Wording plays a big part in understand[ing]
the<BR>> nature and meaning<BR>> a<BR>> > verse written two
thousand years ago in a<BR>> different language, and<BR>> some
Bibles<BR>> > just have it plain wrong."<BR>> > <BR>> >
<BR>> > <BR>> > - Donovan Arnold (August 23, 2005)<BR>>
> <BR>> > <BR>> > <BR>> > <BR>> > <BR>> >
<BR>> > <BR>> > <BR>> > <BR>> > <BR>> >
<BR>> > <BR>> > <BR>> > From: Matt Decker<BR>> >
[mailto:mattd2107@hotmail.com] <BR>> > <BR>> > Sent: Sunday,
October 14, 2007<BR>> > 3:09 PM<BR>> > <BR>> > To: Tom
Hansen;<BR>> > nickgier@adelphia.net<BR>> > <BR>> > Cc:
vision2020@moscow.com; 'J<BR>> > Ford'<BR>> > <BR>> >
Subject: RE:[Vision2020] Friday<BR>> > Fireworks<BR>> >
<BR>> > <BR>> > <BR>> > <BR>> > <BR>> >
Tom,<BR>> > <BR>> > <BR>> > <BR>> > This had
nothing to do with how I feel about Bush<BR>> or the war. It
was<BR>> about<BR>> > donations. Donations for the wounded troops
vs.<BR>> donations for the<BR>> poor<BR>> > professors. All of
which I believe you would be<BR>> for.<BR>> > <BR>> >
<BR>> > <BR>> > As in regards to fireworks. Why in sams hell
can't<BR>> Moscow have a<BR>> show on the forth, but we can<BR>>
> have one for a homecoming game for one of the<BR>> worst ranked
teams in<BR>> the nation?<BR>> > Priorities?<BR>> >
<BR>> > <BR>> > <BR>> > Matt<BR>> > <BR>> >
<BR>> > <BR>> > > From: thansen@moscow.com<BR>> >
<BR>> > > To: nickgier@adelphia.net;
mattd2107@hotmail.com<BR>> > <BR>> > > Date: Sun, 14 Oct
2007 10:47:13 -0700<BR>> > <BR>> > > CC:
vision2020@moscow.com;<BR>> privatejf32@hotmail.com<BR>> >
<BR>> > > Subject: Re:[Vision2020] Friday Fireworks<BR>> >
<BR>> > > <BR>> > <BR>> > > It has been painfully
evident for the past six<BR>> years that the Bush<BR>> > <BR>>
> > administration doesn't give a DAMN about<BR>> veterans.
<BR>> > <BR>> > > <BR>> > <BR>> > > Bush
talks a good game. But, when it comes to<BR>> actually
committing<BR>> money<BR>> > <BR>> > > (beyond what few
dollars veterans realize from a<BR>> VA fraught with<BR>> >
deception),<BR>> > <BR>> > > time (beyond the Fourth of
July parades), and<BR>> effort (beyond<BR>> election year<BR>>
> <BR>> > > photo ops), Bush is nothing more than a
leach<BR>> sucking our soldiers<BR>> dry and<BR>> > <BR>>
> > kicking them to the curb.<BR>> > <BR>> > >
<BR>> > <BR>> > > I could show you the increase in
percentages of<BR>> homeless,<BR>> drug-addicted,<BR>> >
<BR>> > > mentally ill veterans that have been virtually<BR>>
swept under the rug<BR>> during<BR>> > <BR>> > > the
past six years, butI'll leave that to you<BR>> fine people to<BR>>
discover for<BR>> > <BR>> > > yourselves.<BR>> >
<BR>> > > <BR>> > <BR>> > > The Bush
administration epitomizes the old<BR>> saying: <BR>> > <BR>>
> > <BR>> > <BR>> > > "One casualty is horrible. A
thousand casualties<BR>> is a<BR>> > statistic."<BR>> >
<BR>> > > <BR>> > <BR>> > > Seeya round town,
Moscow.<BR>> > <BR>> > > <BR>> > <BR>> > >
Tom Hansen<BR>> > <BR>> > > Moscow, Idaho<BR>> >
<BR>> > > <BR>> > <BR>> > ><BR>>
***************************************************<BR>> > <BR>>
> > <BR>> > <BR>> > > "Seldom, if ever, has a war
ended leaving the<BR>> victors with such a<BR>> > sense
of<BR>> > <BR>> > > uncertainty and fear -- with such a
realization<BR>> that the future is<BR>> obscure<BR>> >
<BR>> > > and that survival is not assured."<BR>> >
<BR>> > > <BR>> > <BR>> > > - Edward
R.Murrow<BR>> > <BR>> > > <BR>> > <BR>> >
><BR>> ***************************************************<BR>>
> <BR>> > > <BR>> > <BR>> > > -----Original
Message-----<BR>> > <BR>> > > <BR>> > <BR>> >
> From: vision2020-bounces@moscow.com<BR>>
[mailto:vision2020-bounces@moscow.com]<BR>> > <BR>> > > On
Behalf Of nickgier@adelphia.net<BR>> > <BR>> > > Sent:
Sunday, October 14, 2007 10:32 AM<BR>> > <BR>> > > To: Matt
Decker<BR>> > <BR>> > > Cc: vision2020@moscow.com; J
Ford<BR>> > <BR>> > > Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Friday
Fireworks<BR>> > <BR>> > > <BR>> > <BR>> > >
Hi Matt,<BR>> > <BR>> > > <BR>> > <BR>> > >
The responsibility to take care of our wounded<BR>> vets is a
federal<BR>> one. But<BR>> > <BR>> > > one could suggest
that their care could be<BR>> deducted from Bush's<BR>> pay
and<BR>> > then<BR>> > <BR>> > > his very substantial
retirement check. After all<BR>> heis the one who<BR>> put
in<BR>> > <BR>> > > them in harm's way and then neglected
them when<BR>> they returned<BR>> home.<BR>> > <BR>> >
> <BR>> > <BR>> > > Nick Gier<BR>> > <BR>> >
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