<div>Paul,</div> <div> </div> <div>I meant a BBQ for raising money for the FW, not a place to have them. </div> <div> </div> <div>Best,</div> <div> </div> <div>Donovan<BR><BR><B><I>Paul Rumelhart <godshatter@yahoo.com></I></B> wrote:</div> <BLOCKQUOTE class=replbq style="PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: #1010ff 2px solid">All good ideas, except that I fear that East City Park has too many <BR>trees for the fireworks to be very visible. Perhaps Guy Wicks's field <BR>instead? Or the park on North Mt. View, whatever it's called? Or the <BR>fairgrounds?<BR><BR>Paul<BR><BR>Donovan Arnold wrote:<BR>> My suggestion;<BR>> Have a BBQ with games, and have MSD children act out scenes from the <BR>> US History and the signing of the Declaration.<BR>> Get the city and county to match funds raised. Get private businesses <BR>> to donate food and supplies in turn allow them to advertise at the <BR>> event. Make it a MCA/GMA
joined effort to supply the people power. And <BR>> don't forget to have a raffle with door prizes. I would hold it that <BR>> East City Park. Also invite bands for patriotic music. You can usually <BR>> find volunteers through the UI Music Department.<BR>> Best,<BR>> Donovan<BR>> Just a thought.<BR>><BR>> */Debbie Gray <GRAYLEX@YAHOO.COM>/* wrote:<BR>><BR>> Hmmm. Maybe this is an opportunity for vision2020<BR>> people to put some action behind all the talk and<BR>> figure out a way to fundraise for fireworks for the<BR>> 4th? It's a nice community-building activity and<BR>> potential common ground for people to meet and greet<BR>> and put aside their DIFFERENCES and be a community for<BR>> a few hours.<BR>><BR>> Didn't the firefighters traditionally spearhead this?<BR>> Anyone have contacts with anyone that used to organize<BR>> fireworks? If tiny little Elk River can work up the<BR>> fundage to have
fireworks, why can't Moscow?<BR>> debbie gray<BR>><BR>> --- jeanlivingston<BR>> wrote:<BR>><BR>> ><BR>> > I am with Matt on this one. I have always been<BR>> > disappointed since<BR>> > Moscow stopped having a fireworks show or any<BR>> > significant kind of<BR>> > community celebration on the Fourth of July. We<BR>> > ought to have one.Â<BR>> > Reading the Declaration of Independence at<BR>> > Freidnship Square is fine,<BR>> > but it is not the same as having a community event<BR>> > with music and food<BR>> > and fellowship, followed by a nice fireworks show.<BR>> ><BR>> ><BR>> > Bruce Livingston<BR>> ><BR>> ><BR>> > -----Original message-----<BR>> > From: Matt Decker mattd2107@hotmail.com<BR>> > Date: Sun, 14 Oct 2007 19:09:23 -0700<BR>> > To: Tom Hansen thansen@moscow.com,<BR>> > nickgier@adelphia.net<BR>> > Subject:
Re: [Vision2020] Friday Fireworks<BR>> ><BR>> > ><BR>> > > Tom,<BR>> > ><BR>> > > How do you know his sentiment, when our discussion<BR>> > was private?<BR>> > ><BR>> > > As to your comments. Me BEEF is with the city. I<BR>> > could care less<BR>> > about the fireworks two nights ago. Wish I was<BR>> > there. I only wished<BR>> > people in Moscow would donate money, such as the<BR>> > students andothers<BR>> > did, so we could all enjoy, which should be our most<BR>> > celebrated<BR>> > holiday, July 4th.<BR>> > > I'm not going to whine and cry about it just<BR>> > wondered if others<BR>> > thought the way I do.<BR>> > ><BR>> > > Tom I can't figure out if you just disagree with<BR>> > everything I say<BR>> > because you believe me to be a republican, or if you<BR>> > just can't come<BR>> > to a
realization that "others" might have valid<BR>> > points.<BR>> > ><BR>> > > Matt<BR>> > ><BR>> > > From: thansen@moscow.com<BR>> > > To: mattd2107@hotmail.com; nickgier@adelphia.net<BR>> > > Date: Sun, 14 Oct 2007 15:18:12 -0700<BR>> > > CC: vision2020@moscow.com; privatejf32@hotmail.com<BR>> > > Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Friday Fireworks<BR>> > ><BR>> > ><BR>> > ><BR>> > ><BR>> > ><BR>> > ><BR>> > ><BR>> > ><BR>> > ><BR>> > ><BR>> > ><BR>> > ><BR>> http://www.hello-online.org/hello/images/picboard/img20071016031125889.jpg<BR>> > ><BR>> > ><BR>> > ><BR>> > ><BR>> > ><BR>> > ><BR>> > ><BR>> > ><BR>> > ><BR>> > ><BR>> > ><BR>> > ><BR>> > > I was merelysupporting Nick
Gier’s<BR>> > > sentiment, Matt.<BR>> > ><BR>> > ><BR>> > ><BR>> > > You stated:<BR>> > ><BR>> > ><BR>> > ><BR>> > > “As in regards to fireworks. Why in<BR>> > > sams hell can't Moscow<BR>> > > have a show on the forth, but we can have one for<BR>> > a homecoming game<BR>> > for one of<BR>> > > the worst ranked teams in the nation?<BR>> > Priorities?”<BR>> > ><BR>> > ><BR>> > ><BR>> > > One question, Matt: Huh?<BR>> > ><BR>> > ><BR>> > ><BR>> > > Your argument might have some meat to it,<BR>> > > Matt, if both instances (Fourth of July fireworks<BR>> > and UI Homecoming<BR>> > fireworks)<BR>> > > were paid for by the city. Your argument is with<BR>> > the city for not<BR>> > > organizing fireworks activities on the Fourth
of<BR>> > July. I would most<BR>> > > definitely support your argument there.<BR>> > ><BR>> > ><BR>> > ><BR>> > > Another thing: Your implication that<BR>> > > UI should not have fireworks because their<BR>> > football team is doing so<BR>> > poorly<BR>> > >lacks rationale to say the least.<BR>> > ><BR>> > ><BR>> > ><BR>> > ><BR>> > ><BR>> > > Seeya round town, Moscow.<BR>> > ><BR>> > ><BR>> > ><BR>> > > Tom Hansen<BR>> > ><BR>> > > Moscow, Idaho<BR>> > ><BR>> > ><BR>> > ><BR>> > > "Wording plays a big part in understand[ing] the<BR>> > nature and meaning<BR>> > a<BR>> > > verse written two thousand years ago in a<BR>> > different language, and<BR>> > some Bibles<BR>> > > just have it plain wrong."<BR>> >
><BR>> > ><BR>> > ><BR>> > > - Donovan Arnold (August 23, 2005)<BR>> > ><BR>> > ><BR>> > ><BR>> > ><BR>> > ><BR>> > ><BR>> > ><BR>> > ><BR>> > ><BR>> > ><BR>> > ><BR>> > ><BR>> > ><BR>> > > From: Matt Decker<BR>> > > [mailto:mattd2107@hotmail.com]<BR>> > ><BR>> > > Sent: Sunday, October 14, 2007<BR>> > > 3:09 PM<BR>> > ><BR>> > > To: Tom Hansen;<BR>> > > nickgier@adelphia.net<BR>> > ><BR>> > > Cc: vision2020@moscow.com; 'J<BR>> > > Ford'<BR>> > ><BR>> > > Subject: RE:[Vision2020] Friday<BR>> > > Fireworks<BR>> > ><BR>> > ><BR>> > ><BR>> > ><BR>> > ><BR>> > > Tom,<BR>> > ><BR>> > ><BR>> > ><BR>> > > This had nothing
to do with how I feel about Bush<BR>> > or the war. It was<BR>> > about<BR>> > > donations. Donations for the wounded troops vs.<BR>> > donations for the<BR>> > poor<BR>> > > professors. All of which I believe you would be<BR>> > for.<BR>> > ><BR>> > ><BR>> > ><BR>> > > As in regards to fireworks. Why in sams hell can't<BR>> > Moscow have a<BR>> > show on the forth, but we can<BR>> > > have one for a homecoming game for one of the<BR>> > worst ranked teams in<BR>> > the nation?<BR>> > > Priorities?<BR>> > ><BR>> > ><BR>> > ><BR>> > > Matt<BR>> > ><BR>> > ><BR>> > ><BR>> > > > From: thansen@moscow.com<BR>> > ><BR>> > > > To: nickgier@adelphia.net; mattd2107@hotmail.com<BR>> > ><BR>> > > > Date: Sun, 14 Oct 2007 10:47:13 -0700<BR>>
> ><BR>> > > > CC: vision2020@moscow.com;<BR>> > privatejf32@hotmail.com<BR>> > ><BR>> > > > Subject: Re:[Vision2020] Friday Fireworks<BR>> > ><BR>> > > ><BR>> > ><BR>> > > > It has been painfully evident for the past six<BR>> > years that the Bush<BR>> > ><BR>> > > > administration doesn't give a DAMN about<BR>> > veterans.<BR>> > ><BR>> > > ><BR>> > ><BR>> > > > Bush talks a good game. But, when it comes to<BR>> > actually committing<BR>> > money<BR>> > ><BR>> > > > (beyond what few dollars veterans realize from a<BR>> > VA fraught with<BR>> > > deception),<BR>> > ><BR>> > > > time (beyond the Fourth of July parades), and<BR>> > effort (beyond<BR>> > election year<BR>> > ><BR>> > > > photo ops), Bush is nothing
more than a leach<BR>> > sucking our soldiers<BR>> > dry and<BR>> > ><BR>> > > > kicking them to the curb.<BR>> > ><BR>> > > ><BR>> > ><BR>> > > > I could show you the increase in percentages of<BR>> > homeless,<BR>> > drug-addicted,<BR>> > ><BR>> > > > mentally ill veterans that have been virtually<BR>> > swept under the rug<BR>> > during<BR>> > ><BR>> > > > the past six years, butI'll leave that to you<BR>> > fine people to<BR>> > discover for<BR>> > ><BR>> > > > yourselves.<BR>> > ><BR>> > > ><BR>> > ><BR>> > > > The Bush administration epitomizes the old<BR>> > saying:<BR>> > ><BR>> > > ><BR>> > ><BR>> > > > "One casualty is horrible. A thousand casualties<BR>> > is a<BR>> > >
statistic."<BR>> > ><BR>> > > ><BR>> > ><BR>> > > > Seeya round town, Moscow.<BR>> > ><BR>> > > ><BR>> > ><BR>> > > > Tom Hansen<BR>> > ><BR>> > > > Moscow, Idaho<BR>> > ><BR>> > > ><BR>> > ><BR>> > > ><BR>> > ***************************************************<BR>> > ><BR>> > > ><BR>> > ><BR>> > > > "Seldom, if ever, has a war ended leaving the<BR>> > victors with such a<BR>> > > sense of<BR>> > ><BR>> > > > uncertainty and fear -- with such a realization<BR>> > that the future is<BR>> > obscure<BR>> > ><BR>> > > > and that survival is not assured."<BR>> > ><BR>> > > ><BR>> > ><BR>> > > > - Edward R.Murrow<BR>> > ><BR>> > > ><BR>> > ><BR>>
> > ><BR>> > ***************************************************<BR>> > ><BR>> > > ><BR>> > ><BR>> > > > -----Original Message-----<BR>> > ><BR>> > > ><BR>> > ><BR>> > > > From: vision2020-bounces@moscow.com<BR>> > [mailto:vision2020-bounces@moscow.com]<BR>> > ><BR>> > > > On Behalf Of nickgier@adelphia.net<BR>> > ><BR>> > > > Sent: Sunday, October 14, 2007 10:32 AM<BR>> > ><BR>> > > > To: Matt Decker<BR>> > ><BR>> > > > Cc: vision2020@moscow.com; J Ford<BR>> > ><BR>> > > > Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Friday Fireworks<BR>> > ><BR>> > > ><BR>> > ><BR>> > > > Hi Matt,<BR>> > ><BR>> > > ><BR>> > ><BR>> > > > The responsibility to take care of our wounded<BR>> > vets is a
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