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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Donovan, This may come as a blow to you,
but not all Christians believe the only way to salvation is acceptance of Jesus
Christ as Savior. Like you, I grew up in a Christian denomination which
does believe that. It was quite a shock to me to find that other
Christians weren't so dogmatic. Of course that then leaves you with the
option of saying, "well no matter what they call themselves, they
really aren't Christian." Let me tell you something--the day one
comes to recognize and accept others for what they say they believe can be
immensely freeing. Then the responsibility is theirs to live as
they believe, and yes, I do believe one has every right to judge their beliefs
by their actions. And of course all of us sometimes come up short there.
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Sue </FONT></DIV>
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV>
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style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: black"><B>From:</B>
<A title=donovanjarnold2005@yahoo.com
href="mailto:donovanjarnold2005@yahoo.com">Donovan Arnold</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A title=joekc@adelphia.net
href="mailto:joekc@adelphia.net">Joe Campbell</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Cc:</B> <A title=vision2020@moscow.com
href="mailto:vision2020@moscow.com">vision2020@moscow.com</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Sunday, October 14, 2007 10:50
AM</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: [Vision2020] Coulter's Dream
- from CNN</DIV>
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<DIV>Joe,</DIV>
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<DIV>She was reiterating the Dogma of Christianity. There is no salvation
without the acceptance of Christ as your savior. If you don't understand
that fundamental fact, or don't believe it, you obviously are not a Christian.
It is core dogma of the religion. </DIV>
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<DIV>A mean vindictive person would wish for Jews to die, or parish. She
said she wished the opposite, that they would accept Christ so that they can
be saved. That sounds like more of a loving statement than a hateful
one to me. </DIV>
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<DIV>She was not singling out Jews, the commentator was because he was Jewish,
she believes that all religions outside of Christianity are in error, as do
all Christians. I think you will also find that followers of the Jewish
and Muslim faiths likewise believe that followers of any religion other
than their own faith is also in error. Christians want all people be saved,
even if it is considered politically incorrect to do so. </DIV>
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<DIV>Best,</DIV>
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<DIV>Donovan<BR><BR><B><I>Joe Campbell <joekc@adelphia.net></I></B>
wrote:</DIV>
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style="PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: #1010ff 2px solid">Donovan
wrote: "Ann Coulter did not say Jews, Muslims, Hindus, Atheists, all
<BR>other non-Christians were worthless, or inferior for their
beliefs.<BR><BR>She said that Christianity was Judaism "perfected." How does
that not entail <BR>that Judaism is inferior to Christianity?<BR><BR>Sorry
but I'm catching up on e-mail!<BR><BR>--<BR>Joe Campbell<BR><BR>---- Donovan
Arnold <DONOVANJARNOLD2005@YAHOO.COM>wrote: <BR><BR>=============<BR>Ann
Coulter should say, "Religious conflict and war is good, and that some
people should not be saved."?<BR><BR>I think this is rather absurd that
people are making a big deal of this. Ann Coulter did not say Jews, Muslims,
Hindus, Atheists, all other non-Christians were worthless, or inferior for
their beliefs. She didn't say other shouldn't be allowed to practice their
religion. What she said was that the world would be better off if the entire
world was Christian. Which from an empirical point of view, the world would
be better off if it was all one religion. Secondly, of course Christians
want all others to be Christians, that is a fundamental belief of Christians
that only Christians can be saved. It is also the belief of many religions
that their religion is the better, and/or only true religion. I am Catholic,
the largest and most diverse church in the world, and our creed specifically
states that the Holy Roman Catholic Church is the "One and Only True
Church". <BR><BR>If she said all Jews and non-Christians should die, and
only Christians are deserving of rights, that would be outrageous. But to
expect Ann Coulter's statements to say the opposite is true; the world is
better off if it has religious conflict and we should want others to suffer
eternal damnation, is suppose to be a more of an acceptable
statement?<BR><BR>I think she was kind of set up with that question. It
didn't matter which way she answered.
<BR><BR>Best,<BR><BR>Donovan<BR><BR>Ted Moffett
<STARBLISS@GMAIL.COM>wrote:<BR><BR>All-<BR><BR>Ann Coulter's books sell big
time... She's laughing all the way to the bank. Carl Westberg is right on
the money (no pun intended) about Coulter being "pure show business." The
more outrageous her comments, the more publicity. It's so obvious she's
deliberately aiming to upset people with extreme political incorrectness.
<BR><BR>What is disturbing is that many people really believe what she
advocates. Millions do believe that the US would be better off if we were
all Christians. Correct? What is more shocking than Coulter's comments, is
that she is supported by a sizable fan base. She definitely speaks to a
large percentage of the US public that admires her frank expression of views
that they sympathize with. <BR><BR>She is merely a symptom of a much broader
problem in US society.<BR><BR>Ted Moffett <BR><BR>On 10/12/07, keely
emerinemix <KJAJMIX1@MSN.COM>wrote: This is the same Ann Coulter who dated
Joseph Guccione, publisher of that paragon of Christian virtue, Penthouse
magazine. Miz Coulter is a nutcase, and I think the orderlies need to find
stronger straps.<BR><BR>keely
<BR><BR><BR><BR><BR><BR>---------------------------------<BR>From:
privatejf32@hotmail.com<BR>To: joekc@adelphia.net;
vision2020@moscow.com<BR>Date: Fri, 12 Oct 2007 10:33:59 -0700<BR>Subject:
Re: [Vision2020] Coulter's Dream - from CNN <BR><BR>Ann Coulter is totally
nuts! "Perfected"? "Fast Track"? What is that!!!!??? Who buys this
stuff?<BR><BR>J :]<BR><BR><BR>> Date: Fri, 12 Oct 2007 06:46:38 -0700
<BR>> From: joekc@adelphia.net<BR>> To: vision2020@moscow.com<BR>>
Subject: [Vision2020] Coulter's Dream - from CNN<BR>> <BR>>
Conservative commentator and best-selling author Ann Coulter may find
herself in the midst of a controversy for comments Monday suggesting America
would be better if everyone was Christian. <BR>> <BR>> Asked by CNBC
host Donny Deutsch what the U.S. looks like in her dreams, Coulter said it
would look like the Republican National Convention in 2004<BR>> <BR>>
"People were happy," she said, according to a transcript provided to CNN by
CNBC. "They're Christian. They're tolerant. They defend America." <BR>>
<BR>> When Deutsch responded, "It would be better if we were all
Christian?" Coulter said "Yeah."<BR>> <BR>> Deutsch, himself Jewish,
continued to press Coulter on her remarks, asking, "We should just throw
Judaism away and we should all be Christians then?" <BR>> <BR>>
"Yeah," Coulter responded, adding "Well, it's a lot easier. It's kind of a
fast track."<BR>> <BR>> "You can't possibly believe that," Deutsch
responded. "You can't possibly. You're too educated." <BR>> <BR>> "Do
you know what Christianity is?" Coulter replied. "See, we believe your
religion, but you have to obey. We have the fast track program."<BR>>
<BR>> Later in the interview Deutsch asked Coulter if she doesn't want
any Jews in the world, Coulter responded, "No, we think — we just want
Jews to be perfected, as they say." <BR>> <BR>> "Wow, you didn't
really say that, did you," Deutsch said.<BR>> <BR>>
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