I think there is a barking dog ordinance that is separate from this noise ordinance, what does it say? Does it have a time limit? Maybe the two could mirror each other, noise is noise. Maybe someone can explain EXACTLY what passed by Council vs what will be considered by the Admin Comm. I trust our police, our current chief and assistant chief, but we may not always trust all of their predecessors. That is why there needs to be some kind of check in play with this ordinance. Not because of the situation now, but for the future. <br><br><b><i>Mike Curley <curley_33@hotmail.com></i></b> wrote:<blockquote class="replbq" style="border-left: 2px solid rgb(16, 16, 255); margin-left: 5px; padding-left: 5px;"> <style> .hmmessage P { margin:0px; padding:0px } body.hmmessage { FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY:Tahoma } </style> Wonderful Sunil, Garrett, Gary. After you hold hands and sing Kum Bah Ya for a bit would you work together to fix the
proposed ordinance. I don't want a hot garage band to be silenced, but then I'd be really happy if a vehicle as loud as a NASCAR competitor or a 2am party fracas could be shut down immediately rather than 48 hours later. You bright fellows will surely be able to suggest solutions to undo the Draconian parts and allow us all to remain boisterous but unoffensive.<br> Happy weekend.<br> Mike Curley<br><br>> From: sunilramalingam@hotmail.com<br>> To: vision2020@moscow.com<br>> Date: Thu, 4 Oct 2007 20:27:28 -0700<br>> Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Oppose Noise Ordinance Modifications<br>> <br>> Amazing. First I agree with something DA wrote yesterday, then I agree with <br>> this from GC.<br>> <br>> Better take my foil hat off next lightning storm.<br>> <br>> Sunil<br>> <br>> <br>> >From: "g. crabtree" <jampot@roadrunner.com><br>> >To: "david sarff" <davesway@hotmail.com>, "Garrett
Clevenger" <br>> ><garrettmc@verizon.net>, <vision2020@moscow.com><br>> >CC: msolomon@moscow.com, privatejf32@hotmail.com<br>> >Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Oppose Noise Ordinance Modifications<br>> >Date: Thu, 4 Oct 2007 20:12:38 -0700<br>> ><br>> >Just so Ms. Ford doesn't have to hurt herself revising her position, I do<br>> >happen to agree with Mr. Clevenger. The ordinance as proposed strikes me as<br>> >arbitrary and not a little draconian. I like my peace and quite as much as<br>> >the next fellow but I think that the council will be making a mistake if<br>> >they pass this over-reaction as proposed. I agree with Mr. C because it<br>> >"soots my constitution."<br>> ><br>> >the other gc<br>> >----- Original Message -----<br>> >From: "david sarff" <davesway@hotmail.com><br>> >To: "Garrett Clevenger" <garrettmc@verizon.net>;
<vision2020@moscow.com><br>> >Cc: <privatejf32@hotmail.com>; <msolomon@moscow.com><br>> >Sent: Thursday, October 04, 2007 6:59 PM<br>> >Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Oppose Noise Ordinance Modifications<br>> ><br>> ><br>> ><br>> >I note the gc you print at the end of your post, I suspect J was confusing<br>> >you with Gary Crabtree.<br>> >Gary's not a kirker either. He just votes his pocket book and supports<br>> >property rights in a similar way.<br>> >Dave<br>> ><br>> ><br>> ><br>> > > Thanks for the voucher, Mark. J :] sent me an email<br>> > > a few days ago and I thought he was kidding. Perhaps<br>> > > he still is?<br>> > ><br>> > > Makes you wonder, though, how fanatism creeps in to<br>> > > someone's head and makes them jump to conclusions<br>> > > without knowing all the facts.<br>> > ><br>>
> > I suppose we are all guilty of that from time to time.<br>> > ><br>> > > Perhaps knowing this J :] will have a different<br>> > > perspective on my thoughts on the issue?<br>> > ><br>> > > Or perhaps he is content knowing the City Council<br>> > > wants to empower the police to give anyone in Moscow,<br>> > > at their discretion, a citation for making a bit of<br>> > > noise (no specified level) at any time without any<br>> > > warning and without any civilian complaint.<br>> > ><br>> > > Sounds like something the Taliban or Iranian<br>> > > government would love.<br>> > ><br>> > > It also makes me wonder, though, what kind of vision J<br>> > > :] has of Moscow. Perhaps the Kirkers aren't all<br>> > > that bad in comparison?<br>> > ><br>> > > A little levity folks, badda-bing!<br>> > ><br>>
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