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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:black'>Hi Tom,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:black'>Here’s the applicable part of </span><b><span
style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'>Sec.
5-12. Nuisance by Animals.<o:p></o:p></span></b></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='text-autospace:none'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;
font-family:"Times-Roman","serif"'>“B. 1. It shall be unlawful for any person
to own, keep, control or harbor any animal which by any barking, howling, whining,
crowing or by any source or cry, disturbs or is likely to disturb the peace and
quiet of any<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='text-autospace:none'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;
font-family:"Times-Roman","serif"'>reasonable person. Provided that no person
shall be prosecuted under this subsection unless:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='text-autospace:none'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;
font-family:"Times-Roman","serif"'>a. Written notice of the noise has been
issued by a law enforcement officer to the property owner or person in<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='text-autospace:none'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;
font-family:"Times-Roman","serif"'>possession of the property wherein the
animal is located, or the animal’s owner, keeper, controller or harborer,
or is left at the premises where the animal is located, at least twenty-four
(24) hours but not more than thirty (30) days prior to the filing of a formal complaint;
and<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='text-autospace:none'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;
font-family:"Times-Roman","serif"'>b. The noise upon which such complaint is
issued has been witnessed by a law enforcement officer.”<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='text-autospace:none'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;
font-family:"Times-Roman","serif"'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='text-autospace:none'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;
font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'>I don’t know that there <b>are</b>
any perfect solutions. I agree that we are a college town and have to expect
some boisterousness, but it’s a little more difficult to take when, for
instance, college students are partying hardy outside your bedroom window at 3
AM (and have been for hours), you ask them to move it inside because you have
to be up at 6 AM to teach summer school, and they refuse.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='text-autospace:none'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;
font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='text-autospace:none'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;
font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'>Or, when you have friends over
for dessert on your deck, and you have to listen to the insane ferocious barking
of several dogs in a nearby yard for long enough that it drives you from your
property at 6:30 PM, and the dogs are still barking when you return at 10 PM,
and the dogs continue to bark incessantly until after the bars close.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='text-autospace:none'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;
font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='text-autospace:none'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;
font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'>[The two examples above are
real-life examples from right here in Moscow.]</span><span style='font-size:
11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:black'>The last thing most of us ever want to do is alienate neighbors,
and calling the cops to complain definitely falls into the “alienation”
category. I’ve never called the cops about noise, so I don’t know
how they’d respond, but in looking at the police daily log online, it
seems clear that noise is a pretty significant problem for some people or in
some areas of town. From that perspective, I can understand why some people
think things need to be changed. It’s difficult to be reasonable when
you’re dealing with inconsiderate neighbors who keep you from sleeping.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:black'>Saundra Lund<br>
Moscow, ID<br>
<br>
The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good people to do
nothing.<br>
- Edmund Burke <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>
vision2020-bounces@moscow.com [mailto:vision2020-bounces@moscow.com] <b>On
Behalf Of </b>Tom Ivie<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Friday, October 05, 2007 9:58 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> vision2020@moscow.com<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [Vision2020] Noise Ordinance-Fix It<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal>I think there is a barking dog ordinance that is separate
from this noise ordinance, what does it say? Does it have a time
limit? Maybe the two could mirror each other, noise is noise. Maybe
someone can explain EXACTLY what passed by Council vs what will be considered
by the Admin Comm. I trust our police, our current chief and assistant chief,
but we may not always trust all of their predecessors. That is why there
needs to be some kind of check in play with this ordinance. Not because
of the situation now, but for the future. <br>
<br>
<b><i>Mike Curley <curley_33@hotmail.com></i></b> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'>Wonderful Sunil, Garrett,
Gary. After you hold hands and sing Kum Bah Ya for a bit would you work
together to fix the proposed ordinance. I don't want a hot garage band to
be silenced, but then I'd be really happy if a vehicle as loud as a
NASCAR competitor or a 2am party fracas could be shut down immediately rather
than 48 hours later. You bright fellows will surely be able to suggest
solutions to undo the Draconian parts and allow us all to remain
boisterous but unoffensive.<br>
Happy weekend.<br>
Mike Curley<br>
<br>
> From: sunilramalingam@hotmail.com<br>
> To: vision2020@moscow.com<br>
> Date: Thu, 4 Oct 2007 20:27:28 -0700<br>
> Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Oppose Noise Ordinance Modifications<br>
> <br>
> Amazing. First I agree with something DA wrote yesterday, then I agree
with <br>
> this from GC.<br>
> <br>
> Better take my foil hat off next lightning storm.<br>
> <br>
> Sunil<br>
> <br>
> <br>
> >From: "g. crabtree" <jampot@roadrunner.com><br>
> >To: "david sarff" <davesway@hotmail.com>,
"Garrett Clevenger" <br>
> ><garrettmc@verizon.net>, <vision2020@moscow.com><br>
> >CC: msolomon@moscow.com, privatejf32@hotmail.com<br>
> >Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Oppose Noise Ordinance Modifications<br>
> >Date: Thu, 4 Oct 2007 20:12:38 -0700<br>
> ><br>
> >Just so Ms. Ford doesn't have to hurt herself revising her position, I
do<br>
> >happen to agree with Mr. Clevenger. The ordinance as proposed strikes
me as<br>
> >arbitrary and not a little draconian. I like my peace and quite as
much as<br>
> >the next fellow but I think that the council will be making a mistake
if<br>
> >they pass this over-reaction as proposed. I agree with Mr. C because
it<br>
> >"soots my constitution."<br>
> ><br>
> >the other gc<br>
> >----- Original Message -----<br>
> >From: "david sarff" <davesway@hotmail.com><br>
> >To: "Garrett Clevenger" <garrettmc@verizon.net>;
<vision2020@moscow.com><br>
> >Cc: <privatejf32@hotmail.com>; <msolomon@moscow.com><br>
> >Sent: Thursday, October 04, 2007 6:59 PM<br>
> >Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Oppose Noise Ordinance Modifications<br>
> ><br>
> ><br>
> ><br>
> >I note the gc you print at the end of your post, I suspect J was
confusing<br>
> >you with Gary Crabtree.<br>
> >Gary's not a kirker either. He just votes his pocket book and supports<br>
> >property rights in a similar way.<br>
> >Dave<br>
> ><br>
> ><br>
> ><br>
> > > Thanks for the voucher, Mark. J :] sent me an email<br>
> > > a few days ago and I thought he was kidding. Perhaps<br>
> > > he still is?<br>
> > ><br>
> > > Makes you wonder, though, how fanatism creeps in to<br>
> > > someone's head and makes them jump to conclusions<br>
> > > without knowing all the facts.<br>
> > ><br>
> > > I suppose we are all guilty of that from time to time.<br>
> > ><br>
> > > Perhaps knowing this J :] will have a different<br>
> > > perspective on my thoughts on the issue?<br>
> > ><br>
> > > Or perhaps he is content knowing the City Council<br>
> > > wants to empower the police to give anyone in Moscow,<br>
> > > at their discretion, a citation for making a bit of<br>
> > > noise (no specified level) at any time without any<br>
> > > warning and without any civilian complaint.<br>
> > ><br>
> > > Sounds like something the Taliban or Iranian<br>
> > > government would love.<br>
> > ><br>
> > > It also makes me wonder, though, what kind of vision J<br>
> > > :] has of Moscow. Perhaps the Kirkers aren't all<br>
> > > that bad in comparison?<br>
> > ><br>
> > > A little levity folks, badda-bing!<br>
> > ><br>
> > > gc<br>
> > ><br>
> > ><br>
> > ><br>
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