<p>Why not change the time before the clock re-starts from 48 hours to one month? </p><p /><p>Bruce Livngston<br />-----Original message-----<br />From: "Bev Bafus" bevbafus@verizon.net<br />Date: Wed, 03 Oct 2007 17:29:02 -0700<br />To: "Garrett Clevenger" garrettmc@verizon.net, vision2020@moscow.com<br />Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Oppose Noise Ordinance Modifications<br /><br />> Garrett, I was at the meeting the other night. The proper term is<br />> "suspension of the rules requiring three readings of the ordinance."<br />> <br />> So as it stands now, there are two more readings before it becomes an<br />> ordinance. They didn't ask for public input, because it was not a public<br />> hearing.<br />> <br />> There were three changes to the noise ordinance suggested, and the first is<br />> the one you are opposing. The reasoning behind this was to give the police<br />> officers the ability to cite someone wit!
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citizen complaint. As the<br />> law reads now, a citizen would have to SIGN a complaint, not just call 911<br />> for a citation to be issued. This causes problems in areas where people are<br />> already less than neighborly. They find out who COMPLAINED, and harassment<br />> can ensue.<br />> <br />> If you listened to Assistant Chief David Duke, he stated that the officers<br />> would still be responding to complaints, but that the complaint could be<br />> anonymous. The officers still would have the discretion to only warn an<br />> individual. Believe me, they know where the problems in town are.<br />> <br />> With our current police administration and staff, I do not feel that this<br />> law would be abused. However, I agree with Aaron Ament that in five years,<br />> ten years - or more, we could have a different slate of individuals who<br />> might abuse it.<br />> <br />> Am I right in assuming that you do not h!
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problem with the change of the<br />> 48-hour rule? As the law reads now, if a warning is issued, a citation<br />> cannot be issued unless an additional complaint is received within 48 hours.<br />> This completely ties the hands of the police when the complaint is every<br />> Friday night. By the time another Friday rolls around, its been more than<br />> 48 hours.<br />> <br />> Do you have any suggestions on how individuals can protect the peace and<br />> quiet of their homes without this ordinance? I don't have a problem myself<br />> with stating my name if I have a viable complaint. But if I lived next to a<br />> party house, I would certainly want the police to do something about curbing<br />> constant noise and extremely impolite behavior.<br />> <br />> And please, don't tell me it's a college town, and we just have to live with<br />> it. College students are capable of learning how to live in society.<br />> <br />!
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thanks<br />> Bev<br />> -----Original Message-----<br />> From: vision2020-bounces@moscow.com<br />> [mailto:vision2020-bounces@moscow.com]On Behalf Of Garrett Clevenger<br />> Sent: Wednesday, October 03, 2007 4:08 PM<br />> To: vision2020@moscow.com<br />> Subject: [Vision2020] Oppose Noise Ordinance Modifications<br />> <br />> <br />> Hello,<br />> I am asking you to take a moment and contact Moscows City Council.<br />> Emails are below...<br />> On October 1, Moscow's City Council unanimously voted yes to modify Moscow<br />> s Noise Ordinance to allow police officers to issue citations without<br />> warning and without civilian complaint. There isn't even a set decibel<br />> limit. It is up to the discretion of the police.<br />> <br />> In other words, if you are making any noise the police deem inappropriate,<br />> they can now fine you on the spot on public and private property.<br />> <br />> T!
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did not ask the public for input at the meeting.<br />> <br />> The only reason it is not now law is because Linda Pall blocked Bill<br />> Lambert from suspending the rules of 3 votes.<br />> <br />> According to our city attorney Randy Fife, our district judge Bill Hamlett<br />> has ruled that Idaho law states police officers cannot represent themselves<br />> as citizens since their job is to represent all citizens. It is illegal for<br />> them to have the power this proposal gives them. Therefore, this new<br />> proposal seems like it would be struck down if challenged.<br />> <br />> We certainly don't have the power to have our voices heard at the federal<br />> level, where civil liberties are on the attack. Take a moment to have your<br />> voice heard by your local representatives. They are just doing there job<br />> trying to solve a problem and need guidance to insure they are not mimicking<br />> the erosions on the
national level.<br />> <br />> <br />> Aaron Ament aaronament@moscow.com<br />> Bill Lambert blambert@ci.moscow.id.us<br />> Linda Pall lpall@moscow.com;<br />> John Weber jweber@moscow.com<br />> Tom Lamar tlamar@moscow.com<br />> <br />> <br />> Unfortunately, the city website has not yet posted the new council woman<br />> Kit Crane's email. Perhaps her phone number is in the phonebook?<br />> <br />> Thank you!<br />> <br />> <br />> Garrett Clevenger<br />> <br />> <br />> <br />> <br />> </p>