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Mr. Schwaller, if you're a disciple of Jesus, you know that you can't make or even hint at an allegation that "incompetence" on the part of Gritman has resulted in life-threatening situations handled in an "under the table" way without corroboration. There's a church in town that's big on ducking behind Scripture's call for two or three witnesses every time they're accused of something -- I bet you've heard of it -- and if you're as erudite and mature as you'd have us believe, you'll no doubt want to furnish us with details, or stop defaming those who can't defend themselves because you choose to be a gossip.<br><br>Which is funny, really, because this VERY SAME CHURCH seems to view gossip as a primarily female trait, leading me to conclude that you are, perhaps, more in touch with your feminine side than you're aware of.<br><br>keely<br><br><br><br><blockquote><hr>Date: Sat, 29 Sep 2007 18:42:26 -0700<br>From: vpschwaller@gmail.com<br>To: vision2020@moscow.com<br>Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Gritman's Incompetence on CNN<br><br>One example that "got out" because of the human interest story.
You would shudder at the number of "under the table" settlements that
Moscow patients have had to take because of incompetence, some
resulting in life-threatening situations. These are much more
important human interest stories but sadly the terms of settlement
prohibit disclosure.<br>
<br>
I will happily wave, one way or another, at Gritman as I zoom past on my way to Spokane for medical care.<br>
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GS<br><br><div><span class="EC_gmail_quote">On 9/29/07, <b class="EC_gmail_sendername">Tom Hansen</b> <<a href="mailto:thansen@moscow.com">thansen@moscow.com</a>> wrote:</span><blockquote class="EC_gmail_quote" style="padding-left: 1ex;">
Yes.<br><br>And one more question, Arnie.<br><br>What color is the sky in your world?<br><br>Seeya round town, Moscow.<br><br>Tom Hansen<br>Moscow, Idaho<br><br>"We're a town of about 23,000 with 10,000 college students. The college
<br>students are not very active in local elections (thank goodness!)."<br><br>- Dale Courtney (March 28, 2007)<br><br>-----Original Message-----<br>From: <a href="mailto:vision2020-bounces@moscow.com">vision2020-bounces@moscow.com
</a> [mailto:<a href="mailto:vision2020-bounces@moscow.com">vision2020-bounces@moscow.com</a>]<br>On Behalf Of Carl Westberg<br>Sent: Saturday, September 29, 2007 12:10 PM<br>To: <a href="mailto:vision2020@moscow.com">vision2020@moscow.com
</a><br>Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Gritman's Incompetence on CNN<br><br>Donovan, in your lonely crusade to vilify Gritman Hospital, have you noticed<br><br>that it is a, well, lonely crusade? Carl Westberg Jr.<br><br>
<br>>From: Donovan Arnold <<a href="mailto:donovanjarnold2005@yahoo.com">donovanjarnold2005@yahoo.com</a>><br>>To: keely emerinemix <<a href="mailto:kjajmix1@msn.com">kjajmix1@msn.com</a>>, donald huskey
<br>><<a href="mailto:donaldrose@cpcinternet.com">donaldrose@cpcinternet.com</a>>, "'vision2020'"
<<a href="mailto:vision2020@moscow.com">vision2020@moscow.com</a>><br>>Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Gritman's Incompetence on CNN<br>>Date: Sat, 29 Sep 2007 00:23:22 -0700 (PDT)<br>><br>>Well, Keely, we all have the right to refuse good medical treatment if we
<br>>want too, at least for now. But please make sure they check your birth date<br><br>>and social security number. Otherwise, there could be a "Mix" up.<br>><br>> Best,<br>><br>> Donovan<br>
><br>>keely emerinemix <<a href="mailto:kjajmix1@msn.com">kjajmix1@msn.com</a>> wrote:<br>>
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P { margin:0px; padding:0px } body.hmmessage {<br>>FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY:Tahoma } I'll "avoid Gritman," as Donovan<br><br>>says, by eating healthy, exercising, not smoking, not drinking too much,
<br>>and flossing every night. Should those things fail me, though, and I need<br>>hospitalization, or should something sudden come up, you can bet I'll be<br>>heading down Main Street. Not "in spite of Gritman's reputation," but
<br>>because of it.<br>><br>>keely<br>><br>><br>><br>>---------------------------------<br>> From: <a href="mailto:donaldrose@cpcinternet.com">donaldrose@cpcinternet.com</a><br>>To: <a href="mailto:vision2020@moscow.com">
vision2020@moscow.com</a><br>>Date: Fri, 28 Sep 2007 21:14:58 -0700<br>>Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Gritman's Incompetence on CNN<br>><br>> We are blessed by the presence of Gritman Hospital in our community.
<br>>If and when Donovan s accomplishments equal even a thousandth part of the<br>>contribution that Gritman Hospital, its staff and board members have made<br>>for over a hundred years, then perhaps he will have some credibility in his
<br><br>>vague, ill-founded complaints. I am beyond pity for you, (and even beyond<br>>disgust) Donovan, but for your own sake, and to retain even a modicum of<br>>self-respect, knock it the hell off.<br>> Rose Huskey
<br>><br>> -----Original Message-----<br>>From: <a href="mailto:vision2020-bounces@moscow.com">vision2020-bounces@moscow.com</a> [mailto:<a href="mailto:vision2020-bounces@moscow.com">vision2020-bounces@moscow.com
</a>]<br>>On Behalf Of Betsy Dickow<br>>Sent: Friday, September 28, 2007 8:30 PM<br>>To: 'vision2020'<br>>Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Gritman's Incompetence on CNN<br>><br>> Donovan,<br>>
<br>><br>><br>> I'm sorry you get such pleasure out of dissing the hospital and many<br>>other organizations and individuals. No one is perfect, and that includes<br>>you.<br>><br>> Give us a break and a little peace from your constant negativity
<br>>please.<br>><br>><br>><br>> Betsy<br>><br>><br>><br>> ----- Original Message -----<br>><br>> From: Donovan Arnold<br>><br>> To: <a href="mailto:vision2020@moscow.com">
vision2020@moscow.com</a><br>><br>> Sent: Friday, September 28, 2007 6:44 PM<br>><br>> Subject: [Vision2020] Gritman's Incompetence on CNN<br>><br>><br>><br>> Gritman's incompetence now hits National News!
<br>><br>><br>><a href="http://www.cnn.com/video/#/video/offbeat/2007/09/28/bishop.not.dead.yet.kxl" target="_blank">http://www.cnn.com/video/#/video/offbeat/2007/09/28/bishop.not.dead.yet.kxl</a><br>y<br>><br>><br>><br>
> I want to remind people, avoid Gritman whenever possible.<br>><br>><br>><br>> Some might explain this as a simple clerical error. But if this guy<br>>was a diabetic, allergic to certain medications, or taking medications that
<br><br>>could react badly to a medication administered because they have the wrong<br>>record, it could be fatal.<br>><br>><br>><br>> Basic 101 treatment is ALWAYS first ask, "Do I have the right person?"
<br><br>>This has to be checked with birth date and/or social security number.<br>><br>><br>><br>> Nurses get fired and could lose their license for this type of error.<br>><br>><br>><br>><br>
><br>><br>><br>> Best,<br>><br>><br>><br>> Donovan<br>><br>><br>><br>><br>><br>><br>>---------------------------------<br>><br>> Boardwalk for $500? In 2007? Ha!
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