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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>And once again you are in error. I would have
been more then happy enough to let the young idiot go on all night long. My
question for you was simply where the line is. Clearly, a question you don't
have an answer for.</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Remember that this was a function of, by, and for
democrats. For you and yours to rant and rail because I agree with one of those
three strikes me as laughable.</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>g</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>----- Original Message ----- </FONT>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>From: "Sunil Ramalingam" <</FONT><A
href="mailto:sunilramalingam@hotmail.com"><FONT face=Arial
size=2>sunilramalingam@hotmail.com</FONT></A><FONT face=Arial
size=2>></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Cc: <</FONT><A
href="mailto:vision2020@moscow.com"><FONT face=Arial
size=2>vision2020@moscow.com</FONT></A><FONT face=Arial size=2>></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Sent: Saturday, September 22, 2007 6:45
PM</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Kerry speech/student
tasered</FONT></DIV></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial><BR><FONT size=2></FONT></FONT></DIV><FONT face=Arial
size=2>> I'm not talking about any other incident. This incident right
here was a <BR>> political speech with questions invited. This was a
violation of the <BR>> student's rights.<BR>> <BR>> It's obvious your
only problem with the state action is that they didn't use <BR>> large enough
goons. I guess we differ.<BR>> <BR>> Sunil<BR>> <BR>> <BR>>
<BR>> <BR>>>From: "g. crabtree" <</FONT><A
href="mailto:jampot@roadrunner.com"><FONT face=Arial
size=2>jampot@roadrunner.com</FONT></A><FONT face=Arial
size=2>><BR>>>To: "Sunil Ramalingam" <</FONT><A
href="mailto:sunilramalingam@hotmail.com"><FONT face=Arial
size=2>sunilramalingam@hotmail.com</FONT></A><FONT face=Arial
size=2>><BR>>>CC: <</FONT><A
href="mailto:vision2020@moscow.com"><FONT face=Arial
size=2>vision2020@moscow.com</FONT></A><FONT face=Arial
size=2>><BR>>>Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Kerry speech/student
tasered<BR>>>Date: Sat, 22 Sep 2007 16:06:09
-0700<BR>>><BR>>>Now I'm afraid it's you that is deliberately
misconstruing a point. I am <BR>>>"choosing" to stick to nothing. I most
assuredly did not accuse you of <BR>>>"supporting state action to squelch
political speech." I was attempting to <BR>>>determine where you think the
line is to be drawn. You might note the <BR>>>question marks sprinkled
through out my posts.<BR>>><BR>>>You apparently believe that the kid
who was tazered had every right to not <BR>>>follow the rules set out at
the event Kerry spoke at. By your standard <BR>>>should he have been
allowed to go on for another 15 minutes? An hour? Till <BR>>>the cows came
home? What about if instead of a topic that is near and dear <BR>>>to your
heart he had elected to carry on about repealing the 13th and 14th
<BR>>>amendment? That would still fall under the umbrella of political
speech <BR>>>after all. Or does that take the discussion that extra
centimeter and <BR>>>become the dreaded "Hate Speech." Abhorred by all and
protected by none.<BR>>><BR>>>Candidates at a debate have rules laid
out in advance stipulating time <BR>>>limits. If they egregiously exceed
these limits the moderator will cut them <BR>>>off and if ness kill their
mike. Is this a constitutional travesty?<BR>>><BR>>>How about the
AARP event that Ms. Hovey announced earlier today. If I jump <BR>>>up and
commence a 90 minute conservative rant about the evils of the
<BR>>>current Mayor and council, even though the event schedule has been
clearly <BR>>>laid out, will that be just ducky by you? Political speech
at a political <BR>>>event after all.<BR>>><BR>>>Nice try on
the "I was six" dodge. I was 10. At least a dozen years before <BR>>>I
started to be aware of anything that didn't involve girls and debauchery.
<BR>>>We've both been to school. You write as though you may have been
paying <BR>>>attention. It's not as though the events surrounding the 1968
democratic <BR>>>convention in Chicago were an obscure, seldom mentioned
event. The whole <BR>>>Chicago 7 situation revolved around the notion of
violent demonstration as <BR>>>political speech at what was a decidedly
political event. Still diggen' the <BR>>>all's fair speech wise at a
political gathering?<BR>>><BR>>>Just so there's no mistaking my
intent this time around, the point I am <BR>>>making, and the question I
am asking is where do you draw the line? Oh, and <BR>>>for the record I
did not tell or challenge "Andy to find support for his <BR>>>statement,"
I told him flat out there was none to be had. Subtle difference <BR>>>I
know and, I suspect, you know as well. It just wouldn't have made your
<BR>>>case quite as well to have been
accurate.<BR>>><BR>>>g<BR>>>----- Original Message
-----<BR>>>From: "Sunil Ramalingam" <</FONT><A
href="mailto:sunilramalingam@hotmail.com"><FONT face=Arial
size=2>sunilramalingam@hotmail.com</FONT></A><FONT face=Arial
size=2>><BR>>>Cc: <</FONT><A
href="mailto:vision2020@moscow.com"><FONT face=Arial
size=2>vision2020@moscow.com</FONT></A><FONT face=Arial
size=2>><BR>>>Sent: Saturday, September 22, 2007 12:16
PM<BR>>>Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Kerry speech/student
tasered<BR>>><BR>>><BR>>> > Then Gary, you are choosing to
stick to a belief that I have never<BR>>> > supported. The only
thing you are proving is that you don't know squat<BR>>> > about me or
my beliefs. Your position is the written version of
<BR>>>covering<BR>>> > your ears and shouting "La la la," but
have at it, it's still a free<BR>>> > country. For
now.<BR>>> ><BR>>> > You just told Andy to find support for
his statement about you in your <BR>>>last<BR>>> > hundred or so
posts. I challenge you to find me supporting state action
<BR>>>to<BR>>> > squelch political speech in my posts. Good
luck and pack a lunch. You <BR>>>have<BR>>> > nothing but
your wish to pin a belief to me, one that I don't hold. You<BR>>>
> want people to support what they say about you, but you don't hold
<BR>>>yourself<BR>>> > to the same standard when it comes to
others.<BR>>> ><BR>>> > I am talking here about a person who
was engaged in political speech. <BR>>>It<BR>>> > was not
accompanied by violence. This doesn't have to be construed as<BR>>>
> political speech in 'some vague way .'<BR>>> ><BR>>> >
The Yippees in Chicago in '68? I was 6, Gary, I must have missed
the<BR>>> > footage while I was riding my bike, so I'm not talking
about them. Not<BR>>> > interested in
bait-and-switch.<BR>>> ><BR>>> > Sunil<BR>>>
><BR>>> ><BR>>> >>From: "g. crabtree" <</FONT><A
href="mailto:jampot@roadrunner.com"><FONT face=Arial
size=2>jampot@roadrunner.com</FONT></A><FONT face=Arial size=2>><BR>>>
>>To: "Sunil Ramalingam" <</FONT><A
href="mailto:sunilramalingam@hotmail.com"><FONT face=Arial
size=2>sunilramalingam@hotmail.com</FONT></A><FONT face=Arial
size=2>><BR>>> >>CC: <</FONT><A
href="mailto:vision2020@moscow.com"><FONT face=Arial
size=2>vision2020@moscow.com</FONT></A><FONT face=Arial size=2>><BR>>>
>>Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Kerry speech/student tasered<BR>>>
>>Date: Sat, 22 Sep 2007 11:56:42 -0700<BR>>> >><BR>>>
>>I understand perfectly well that you're unhappy with Theresa's
boy<BR>>> >>and I'm skeptical about your assertion. Would you have
extended your<BR>>> >>argument to the Yippies in Chicago in '68?
Violence as speech in a<BR>>> >>political setting. I do not believe
that the constitution gives a person<BR>>> >>unlimited license to
act the fool as long as what they say (or do) can <BR>>>in<BR>>>
>>some vague way be construed as a political statement.<BR>>>
>><BR>>> >>g<BR>>> >>----- Original Message
-----<BR>>> >>From: "Sunil Ramalingam" <</FONT><A
href="mailto:sunilramalingam@hotmail.com"><FONT face=Arial
size=2>sunilramalingam@hotmail.com</FONT></A><FONT face=Arial
size=2>><BR>>> >>Cc: <</FONT><A
href="mailto:vision2020@moscow.com"><FONT face=Arial
size=2>vision2020@moscow.com</FONT></A><FONT face=Arial size=2>><BR>>>
>>Sent: Saturday, September 22, 2007 10:49 AM<BR>>> >>Subject:
Re: [Vision2020] Kerry speech/student tasered<BR>>> >><BR>>>
>><BR>>> >> > Wrong. I absolutely would make the
identical argument. I'm talking<BR>>> >>about<BR>>>
>> > the Constitution, not my own preferences. And isince you
missed it,<BR>>> >>most of<BR>>> >> > my condemnation
here is for the person I voted for in the last <BR>>>election,<BR>>>
>>not<BR>>> >> > Bush.<BR>>> >>
><BR>>> >> > Sunil<BR>>> >> ><BR>>>
>> ><BR>>> ><BR>>> ><BR>>> >
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