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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Now I'm afraid it's you that is deliberately
misconstruing a point. I am "choosing" to stick to nothing. I most
assuredly did not accuse you of "supporting state action to squelch political
speech." I was attempting to determine where you think the line is to be drawn.
You might note the question marks sprinkled through out my posts.</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>You apparently believe that the kid who was tazered
had every right to not follow the rules set out at the event Kerry spoke at. By
your standard should he have been allowed to go on for another 15 minutes? An
hour? Till the cows came home? What about if instead of a topic that is near and
dear to your heart he had elected to carry on about repealing the 13th and 14th
amendment? That would still fall under the umbrella of political speech after
all. Or does that take the discussion that extra centimeter and become the
dreaded "Hate Speech." Abhorred by all and protected by none.</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Candidates at a debate have rules laid out in
advance stipulating time limits. If they egregiously exceed these limits the
moderator will cut them off and if ness kill their mike. Is this a
constitutional travesty? </FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>How about the AARP event that Ms. Hovey announced
earlier today. If I jump up and commence a 90 minute conservative rant about the
evils of the current Mayor and council, even though the event schedule has been
clearly laid out, will that be just ducky by you? Political speech at a
political event after all.</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Nice try on the "I was six" dodge. I was 10. At
least a dozen years before I started to be aware of anything that didn't involve
girls and debauchery. We've both been to school. You write as though you may
have been paying attention. It's not as though the events surrounding the
1968 democratic convention in Chicago were an obscure, seldom mentioned event.
The whole Chicago 7 situation revolved around the notion of violent
demonstration as political speech at what was a decidedly political event.
Still diggen' the all's fair speech wise at a political gathering?</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Just so there's no mistaking my intent this time
around, the point I am making, and the question I am asking is where do you draw
the line? Oh, and for the record I did not tell or challenge "Andy to find
support for his statement," I told him flat out there was none to be had.
Subtle difference I know and, I suspect, you know as well. It just wouldn't
have made your case quite as well to have been accurate.</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>g</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>----- Original Message ----- </FONT>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>From: "Sunil Ramalingam" <</FONT><A
href="mailto:sunilramalingam@hotmail.com"><FONT face=Arial
size=2>sunilramalingam@hotmail.com</FONT></A><FONT face=Arial
size=2>></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Cc: <</FONT><A
href="mailto:vision2020@moscow.com"><FONT face=Arial
size=2>vision2020@moscow.com</FONT></A><FONT face=Arial size=2>></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Sent: Saturday, September 22, 2007 12:16
PM</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Kerry speech/student
tasered</FONT></DIV></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial><BR><FONT size=2></FONT></FONT></DIV><FONT face=Arial
size=2>> Then Gary, you are choosing to stick to a belief that I have never
<BR>> supported. The only thing you are proving is that you don't know
squat <BR>> about me or my beliefs. Your position is the written
version of covering <BR>> your ears and shouting "La la la," but have at it,
it's still a free <BR>> country. For now.<BR>> <BR>> You just
told Andy to find support for his statement about you in your last <BR>>
hundred or so posts. I challenge you to find me supporting state action to
<BR>> squelch political speech in my posts. Good luck and pack a
lunch. You have <BR>> nothing but your wish to pin a belief to me, one
that I don't hold. You <BR>> want people to support what they say about
you, but you don't hold yourself <BR>> to the same standard when it comes to
others.<BR>> <BR>> I am talking here about a person who was engaged in
political speech. It <BR>> was not accompanied by violence. This
doesn't have to be construed as <BR>> political speech in 'some vague way
.'<BR>> <BR>> The Yippees in Chicago in '68? I was 6, Gary, I must
have missed the <BR>> footage while I was riding my bike, so I'm not talking
about them. Not <BR>> interested in bait-and-switch.<BR>> <BR>>
Sunil<BR>> <BR>> <BR>>>From: "g. crabtree" <</FONT><A
href="mailto:jampot@roadrunner.com"><FONT face=Arial
size=2>jampot@roadrunner.com</FONT></A><FONT face=Arial
size=2>><BR>>>To: "Sunil Ramalingam" <</FONT><A
href="mailto:sunilramalingam@hotmail.com"><FONT face=Arial
size=2>sunilramalingam@hotmail.com</FONT></A><FONT face=Arial
size=2>><BR>>>CC: <</FONT><A
href="mailto:vision2020@moscow.com"><FONT face=Arial
size=2>vision2020@moscow.com</FONT></A><FONT face=Arial
size=2>><BR>>>Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Kerry speech/student
tasered<BR>>>Date: Sat, 22 Sep 2007 11:56:42
-0700<BR>>><BR>>>I understand perfectly well that you're unhappy
with Theresa's boy<BR>>>and I'm skeptical about your assertion. Would you
have extended your <BR>>>argument to the Yippies in Chicago in '68?
Violence as speech in a <BR>>>political setting. I do not believe that the
constitution gives a person <BR>>>unlimited license to act the fool as
long as what they say (or do) can in <BR>>>some vague way be construed as
a political statement.<BR>>><BR>>>g<BR>>>----- Original
Message -----<BR>>>From: "Sunil Ramalingam" <</FONT><A
href="mailto:sunilramalingam@hotmail.com"><FONT face=Arial
size=2>sunilramalingam@hotmail.com</FONT></A><FONT face=Arial
size=2>><BR>>>Cc: <</FONT><A
href="mailto:vision2020@moscow.com"><FONT face=Arial
size=2>vision2020@moscow.com</FONT></A><FONT face=Arial
size=2>><BR>>>Sent: Saturday, September 22, 2007 10:49
AM<BR>>>Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Kerry speech/student
tasered<BR>>><BR>>><BR>>> > Wrong. I absolutely would
make the identical argument. I'm talking <BR>>>about<BR>>>
> the Constitution, not my own preferences. And isince you missed it,
<BR>>>most of<BR>>> > my condemnation here is for the person I
voted for in the last election, <BR>>>not<BR>>> >
Bush.<BR>>> ><BR>>> > Sunil<BR>>> ><BR>>>
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