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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>I am pretty sure it does, Tom.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>I recall comments along those lines being
discussed.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>It is still going to require a second and,
most likely, a third reading before all is said and done.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>In the interim, though, stay tuned . . .<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p><font size=2 color=navy face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
color:navy'>Seeya round town, <st1:City w:st="on"><st1:place w:st="on">Moscow</st1:place></st1:City>.<br>
<br>
Tom Hansen<br>
<st1:place w:st="on"><st1:City w:st="on">Moscow</st1:City>, <st1:State w:st="on">Idaho</st1:State></st1:place><br>
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"We're a town of about 23,000 with 10,000 college students. The college
students are not very active in local elections (thank goodness!)."<br>
<br>
- Dale Courtney (March 28, 2007)</span></font><font color=navy><span
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<p class=MsoNormal><b><font size=2 face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Tahoma;font-weight:bold'>From:</span></font></b><font size=2
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vision2020-bounces@moscow.com [mailto:vision2020-bounces@moscow.com] <b><span
style='font-weight:bold'>On Behalf Of </span></b>Tom Ivie<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> Monday, September 17, 2007
8:42 PM<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> <st1:PersonName w:st="on">Moscow
Vision 2020</st1:PersonName><br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> Re: [Vision2020] Say
What? Discrimination</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'>My original question wasn't answered, if anyone wants to field
it. "Doesn't this include a CUP process?<br>
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<b><i><span style='font-weight:bold;font-style:italic'>Donovan Arnold
<donovanjarnold2005@yahoo.com></span></i></b> wrote: <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'>Tom Ivie,<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'>Lowering the number of occupants per housing unit by law increases
demand for more apartments and housing units, driving the cost up. With rents
up even more, renters are further soaked again by limiting the number of people
they can split rent with. <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><st1:City w:st="on"><st1:place w:st="on"><font size=3
face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt'>Moscow</span></font></st1:place></st1:City>
is a college town. Students cannot afford much more that $300 piece for rent. IF
<st1:City w:st="on"><st1:place w:st="on">Moscow</st1:place></st1:City> raises
its rents, the number of students returning to UI will reduce because they
cannot afford to live in the city with no jobs and unaffordable housing. Many
of them will elect elsewhere to attend like BSU, Albertson, NNU, ISU, LCSC or
the new junior college in <st1:City w:st="on"><st1:place w:st="on">Nampa</st1:place></st1:City>.
But this is a good move for the socialists agenda of destroying the <st1:City
w:st="on"><st1:place w:st="on">Moscow</st1:place></st1:City> economy through
relentless unneeded government regulation. <o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'>Best,<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'>Donovan<br>
<br>
<b><i><span style='font-weight:bold;font-style:italic'>Tom Ivie
<the_ivies3@yahoo.com></span></i></b> wrote:<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'>Doesn't it include a CUP process? As I understand it, and I could
be wrong, lowering the number brings <st1:City w:st="on"><st1:place w:st="on">Moscow</st1:place></st1:City>
more in-line with the codified number that the majority of cities our size
use. <br>
<br>
<b><i><span style='font-weight:bold;font-style:italic'>Donovan Arnold
<donovanjarnold2005@yahoo.com></span></i></b> wrote: <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'>"These three people [(Pall, Ament and Lamar)] feel that
counting unrelated people in a<br>
dwelling will solve noise and parking problems in residential<br>
neighborhoods."<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'>Mr. Busch is correct on this point. I think counting the number of
unrelated people is discriminatory. When I worked at Inclusion North there were
often several people with disabilities living in one home because they cannot
afford their own place on a $660 a month SSI check, especially in a city like <st1:City
w:st="on"><st1:place w:st="on">Moscow</st1:place></st1:City>. There are many
poor, disabled, and elderly people that MUST live together in one dwelling for
economic survival. This code is a raw deal for those that are in need of
affordable housing. Another example of elitist socialists trying to
make everyone live like them regardless of their financial situations. The City
Council members are saying, "Let them eat cake", or in this
case, let them live in an apartment with only two people if they can only
afford to live in an apartment with four others. <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'>And on the other side of the coin, a family of two adults with two
teenagers can be very noisy and make life for their neighbors intolerable. Why
not limit how many teenagers can live in one household, or how many babies a
single mom can have? It would be just as unfair. <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'>An unjust law, clearly invented by people living in nice
homes with secure incomes. I hope the newly elected city council will reverse
this piece of discrimination. <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'>If <st1:City w:st="on">Moscow</st1:City> would allow for the building
of affordable housing for what people actually earn in <st1:City w:st="on"><st1:place
w:st="on">Moscow</st1:place></st1:City> we would not have 5 students or 5
people on SSI living in one housing unit. And BTW, <st1:City w:st="on"><st1:place
w:st="on">Moscow</st1:place></st1:City> has more people per housing
unit then any other city in the state according the BLS. <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'>Best,<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'>Donovan<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
<b><i><span style='font-weight:bold;font-style:italic'>Tom Hansen
<thansen@moscow.com></span></i></b> wrote:<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'>In a letter to the editor of the Lewiston Tribune, published today<br>
(September 16, 2007), Steve Busch suggests that "enforcing existing law<br>
[Moscow Zoning Code] is all that is necessary."<br>
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<br>
Comments made in a letter to the editor authored by local attorney Jack<br>
Porter and published in the Sept. 12 Lewiston Tribune cannot be ignored. On<br>
Sept. 4, the current city council voted 3-2 to change <st1:City w:st="on"><st1:place
w:st="on">Moscow</st1:place></st1:City>'s city code in<br>
an attempt to deal with a real problem. <br>
<br>
Unfortunately, the majority (Pall, Ament and Lamar) threw the baby out with<br>
the bath water. These three people feel that counting unrelated people in a<br>
dwelling will solve noise and parking problems in residential neighborhoods.<br>
<br>
<br>
The Greater Moscow Alliance feel enforcing existing law is all that is<br>
necessary. We said so in a letter presented to the council on Sept. 10 (to<br>
see a copy visit www.greatermoscow.org). Mr. Porter thinks this is evidence<br>
the GMA is insensitive to <st1:City w:st="on"><st1:place w:st="on">Moscow</st1:place></st1:City>
citizens' cherished life style. Nothing<br>
could be further from the truth. GMA is working hard to educate the public<br>
about issues and candidates. <br>
<br>
I urge all <st1:City w:st="on"><st1:place w:st="on">Moscow</st1:place></st1:City>
voters to ask candidates for city council tough questions.<br>
Listen carefully to the answers and vote your conscience.<br>
<br>
Steve Busch<br>
President<br>
Greater <st1:City w:st="on">Moscow</st1:City> <st1:City w:st="on"><st1:place
w:st="on">Alliance</st1:place></st1:City><br>
<st1:City w:st="on"><st1:place w:st="on">Moscow</st1:place></st1:City><br>
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Questions, Mr. Busch: How often, and how selective, should enforcement of<br>
zoning codes be enforced? Instead of amending the current code ad nauseam<br>
and allowing for conditional use permits every time somebody violates<br>
"existing law", should we draw the proverbial line in the sand, much
like<br>
the Raven, strongly proclaim "Ne'er more", and further demand that
those<br>
entities that are currently in violation of the zoning code move elsewhere?<br>
<br>
Reminder, folks!<br>
http://tinyurl.com/36ghxk<br>
<br>
Seeya round town, <st1:City w:st="on"><st1:place w:st="on">Moscow</st1:place></st1:City>.<br>
<br>
Tom Hansen<br>
<st1:place w:st="on"><st1:City w:st="on">Moscow</st1:City>, <st1:State w:st="on">Idaho</st1:State></st1:place><br>
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"We're a town of about 23,000 with 10,000 college students. The college<br>
students are not very active in local elections (thank goodness!)."<br>
<br>
- Dale Courtney (March 28, 2007)<br>
<br>
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