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<DIV><FONT face=Arial>The government should allow one and all to sit where
ever they please on the governments bus. They shouldn't create anew bus for
each entity that feels put upon and it should not tell others how to run their
bus. </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial>Civil rights and equal protection should be the same for
everyone. It seems to me that using the force of government to create protected
classes and special rights for some is how folks such as yourself force others
to pay for your particular vision of how the country should be. In short,
forcing your religion on others.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial>Want to help single moms and the handicapped? Fine, go for
it. Their are many private institutions that do just that. Support them. Want to
make it illegal to harass homosexuals and religious and ethnic minorities?
Terrific, make it just as illegal as harassing CEO's, protestants, and white
guys who struggle to make a living. Anything else is social engineering at
gunpoint.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial>g</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV>
<DIV
style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: black"><B>From:</B>
<A title=kjajmix1@msn.com href="mailto:kjajmix1@msn.com">keely emerinemix</A>
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A title=jampot@roadrunner.com
href="mailto:jampot@roadrunner.com">g. crabtree</A> ; <A
title=sdredge@yahoo.com href="mailto:sdredge@yahoo.com">Scott Dredge</A> ; <A
title=vision2020@moscow.com
href="mailto:vision2020@moscow.com">vision2020@moscow.com</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Wednesday, August 29, 2007 7:26
PM</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> RE: [Vision2020] Craig's
official statement</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>Do I understand you to say, Gary, that civil rights
legislation, including equal protection, is an example of the protected ones'
being "unable to make their own way in the world without the help of mommy
government"?<BR><BR>Does that mean that single moms, the disabled, ethnic and
religious minorities, and, in most places other than Idaho, homosexuals, are
simply whining loudly enough in their distress to require the mother-teat of
equal protection, as you seem to put it? Or would you, like most people,
agree that because society has historically discriminated against certain
people-groups, and would undoubtedly continue to do so if given free reign, it
is necessary that the government step in and enforce the ideals of American
justice extracted from the Constitution? <BR><BR>Enlighten us,
please. Because I have to say, I've never thought of civil rights
legislation that way. I've always thought its purpose was to address
inequality and injustice on the part of those in power, not to function as a
bone thrown and a blankie offered to the oppressed to pacify and coddle them.
<BR><BR>keely<BR><BR><SPAN style="FONT-STYLE: italic"></SPAN><BR><BR><BR>
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From: jampot@roadrunner.com<BR>To: sdredge@yahoo.com;
vision2020@moscow.com<BR>Date: Wed, 29 Aug 2007 15:25:53 -0700<BR>Subject:
Re: [Vision2020] Craig's official statement<BR><BR>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Enacting hate crime legislation to provide
special protection to a small (or large, for that matter) group who feel put
upon is bad law. It is the very antithesis of equal protection. There
is a major difference between denying rights and granting unique rights.
Aside from the marriage issue, which we all know has nothing to do with
marriage in the conventional sense, what rights are being denied
homosexuals?</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>The specific arguments have indeed been clearly
laid out time and again. What has yet to be explained rationally is why
providing special considerations to less than 3% of the U.S. population is
good for the country.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>So, how about it? How exactly will the country
become a better place if yet another group is added to the list of those
unable to make their own way in the world without the help of mommy
government?</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>g</FONT></DIV>
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Original Message ----- </DIV>
<DIV
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<A title=sdredge@yahoo.com href="mailto:sdredge@yahoo.com">Scott
Dredge</A> </DIV>
<DIV
style="FONT: 10pt arial; font-size-adjust: none; font-stretch: normal"><B>To:</B>
<A title=vision2020@moscow.com
href="mailto:vision2020@moscow.com">vision2020@moscow.com</A> </DIV>
<DIV
style="FONT: 10pt arial; font-size-adjust: none; font-stretch: normal"><B>Sent:</B>
Wednesday, August 29, 2007 9:42 AM</DIV>
<DIV
style="FONT: 10pt arial; font-size-adjust: none; font-stretch: normal"><B>Subject:</B>
Re: [Vision2020] Craig's official statement</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>
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style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: times new roman,new york,times,serif">
<DIV
style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: times new roman,new york,times,serif">I
don't know Gary, is it possible? If someone happens to be in a
position of power and is denying rights for homosexuals and homosexual
couples that are already available for hetoresexuals and heterosexual
couples, don't you think that they should be able clearly explain why they
believe same sex marriage / hate crime / equal rights is bad for the
country instead of just saying "I believe it's bad" without citing any
specifics?<BR><BR>-Scott<BR><BR>
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Original Message ----<BR>From: g. crabtree
<jampot@roadrunner.com><BR>To: Paul Rumelhart
<godshatter@yahoo.com>; Scott Dredge
<sdredge@yahoo.com><BR>Cc: vision2020@moscow.com<BR>Sent: Wednesday,
August 29, 2007 6:25:46 AM<BR>Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Craig's official
statement<BR><BR>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Leaving aside the question of Senator Craig's
sexuality, did I miss the legislation that made it mandatory that all
homosexuals march in lockstep with the whole same sex marriage/hate
crime/pro special rights agenda? Is it not possible to be homosexual
and sincerely believe that these things are bad for the country
and vote accordingly? Apparently not, what the heck could I have been
thinking...</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>g</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>----- Original Message ----- </FONT>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>From: "Paul Rumelhart" <</FONT><A
href="mailto:godshatter@yahoo.com" rel=nofollow><FONT face=Arial
size=2>godshatter@yahoo.com</FONT></A><FONT face=Arial
size=2>></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>To: "Scott Dredge" <</FONT><A
href="mailto:sdredge@yahoo.com" rel=nofollow><FONT face=Arial
size=2>sdredge@yahoo.com</FONT></A><FONT face=Arial
size=2>></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Cc: <</FONT><A
href="mailto:vision2020@moscow.com" rel=nofollow><FONT face=Arial
size=2>vision2020@moscow.com</FONT></A><FONT face=Arial
size=2>></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Sent: Tuesday, August 28, 2007 6:45
PM</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Craig's official
statement</FONT></DIV></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial><BR><FONT size=2></FONT></FONT></DIV><FONT
face=Arial size=2>> Hey, I don't have anything to prove here. I
was just stating that, <BR>> based upon what I had heard at the time,
it sounded possible that he <BR>> might have been innocent of the
charges despite what he said in court. <BR>> Not that he *was*
innocent, not that I wanted him to be innocent, not <BR>> that I even
give a flying fsck whether he was innocent or not. That was <BR>>
based upon a story that detailed the crimes of touching another mans
<BR>> foot in the stall next to you and reaching under the
partition.<BR>> <BR>> What a truly horrific thing for me to
say. I should be ashamed of myself.<BR>> <BR>> At the time, I
hadn't read the NY Times article that Tom posted. The <BR>>
standing outside the restroom door for two minutes looking through the
<BR>> crack thing falls neatly into the category of "odd
behavior".<BR>> <BR>> So, ok, maybe he is a hypocrite. So here
is another thought that will <BR>> probably get me reviled as Satan's
second cousin or something, but how <BR>> do you avoid be hypocritical
on some subjects when you are ostensibly <BR>> representing your
constituents? What do you do if you are inwardly <BR>>
pro-homosexual, but your constituency isn't? Were you elected to
vote <BR>> as you wish? Or were you elected to vote as your
constituency wishes? <BR>> If he's a hypocrite, he became one the
day he courted the electorate <BR>> that differed from his own personal
views.<BR>> <BR>> Paul<BR>> <BR>> Scott Dredge
wrote:<BR>>> Oh give it up, Paul and Roger. Are you guys not
paying attention? You can find Larry Craig's hypocrisy just about
everywhere. Did you not see his press conference today? The
first sentence out of his mouth was, "Thank you all very much for 'coming
out' today" as if all the reporters and everyone else in the audience had
some closeted secret that had come to light and they were owning up to it
unlike himself. Criminy! If that ain't hypocrisy, I guess I don't
know what hypocrisy is. Of course, maybe I don't know.
Hmmm...let me think about that a bit...<BR>>><BR>>>
-Scott<BR>>><BR>>> ----- Original Message ----<BR>>>
From: lfalen <</FONT><A href="mailto:lfalen@turbonet.com"
rel=nofollow><FONT face=Arial size=2>lfalen@turbonet.com</FONT></A><FONT
face=Arial size=2>><BR>>> To: Paul Rumelhart <</FONT><A
href="mailto:godshatter@yahoo.com" rel=nofollow><FONT face=Arial
size=2>godshatter@yahoo.com</FONT></A><FONT face=Arial size=2>>; Joe
Campbell <</FONT><A href="mailto:joekc@adelphia.net" rel=nofollow><FONT
face=Arial size=2>joekc@adelphia.net</FONT></A><FONT face=Arial
size=2>><BR>>> Cc: </FONT><A href="mailto:vision2020@moscow.com"
rel=nofollow><FONT face=Arial
size=2>vision2020@moscow.com</FONT></A><BR><FONT face=Arial
size=2>>> Sent: Tuesday, August 28, 2007 9:55:29 AM<BR>>>
Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Craig's official
statement<BR>>><BR>>> My sentiments also. I don't know where
Craig stands on sexuality. Joe. maybe you could let us know were the
hypocrisy is?<BR>>> -----Original message-----<BR>>> From:
Paul Rumelhart </FONT><A href="mailto:godshatter@yahoo.com"
rel=nofollow><FONT face=Arial
size=2>godshatter@yahoo.com</FONT></A><BR><FONT face=Arial size=2>>>
Date: Mon, 27 Aug 2007 20:25:26 -0700<BR>>> To: Joe Campbell
</FONT><A href="mailto:joekc@adelphia.net" rel=nofollow><FONT face=Arial
size=2>joekc@adelphia.net</FONT></A><BR><FONT face=Arial size=2>>>
Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Craig's official
statement<BR>>><BR>>> <BR>>>> Sure, be my
guest.<BR>>>><BR>>>> You're
welcome.<BR>>>><BR>>>> Is he actively anti-homosexual or
something? Despite the fact that he <BR>>>> gave me a
nomination to the Air Force Academy in 1984 (which turned me
<BR>>>> down) I haven't really followed his career that
much.<BR>>>><BR>>>> I'm just saying that I'd hate to be
in that situation and not actually <BR>>>> be guilty.
Tapping your right foot. Who knew? I might also be tempted
<BR>>>> to just pay the damn fine and hope nobody notices,
too.<BR>>>><BR>>>> I do know I plan to keep both feet
solidly on the floor for the duration <BR>>>> next time I'm in an
airport restroom.<BR>>>><BR>>>>
Paul<BR>>>><BR>>>> Joe Campbell
wrote:<BR>>>> <BR>>>>>
Paul,<BR>>>>><BR>>>>> You're not really that
naive, are you? How about hypocrisy? Can we accuse him of
that?<BR>>>>><BR>>>>> --<BR>>>>> Joe
Campbell<BR>>>>><BR>>>>>
--------------------<BR>>>>><BR>>>>> The article I
read in the Washington Post said that he had tapped the
<BR>>>>> foot of the person in the stall next him and reached
under the <BR>>>>> partition. Naive to ways of the dance of
restroom stall courtship and <BR>>>>> etiquette, I probably
would have handed him some toilet paper blithely <BR>>>>>
assuming that his dispenser was
empty.<BR>>>>><BR>>>>> I haven't yet read the
articles linked to earlier - so it's possible it <BR>>>>> was
more than that. But given what the Post said, I can't really accuse
<BR>>>>> him of much
myself.<BR>>>>><BR>>>>>
Paul<BR>>>>><BR>>>>>
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</FONT><A href="mailto:Vision2020@moscow.com" rel=nofollow><FONT
face=Arial size=2>mailto:Vision2020@moscow.com</FONT></A><BR><FONT
face=Arial size=2>>>>>
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</FONT><A href="mailto:Vision2020@moscow.com" rel=nofollow><FONT
face=Arial size=2>mailto:Vision2020@moscow.com</FONT></A><BR><FONT
face=Arial size=2>>>>
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</FONT><A href="mailto:Vision2020@moscow.com" rel=nofollow><FONT
face=Arial size=2>mailto:Vision2020@moscow.com</FONT></A><BR><FONT
face=Arial size=2>>>
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face=Arial size=2>>>
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