<html><head><style type="text/css"><!-- DIV {margin:0px;} --></style></head><body><div style="font-family:times new roman, new york, times, serif;font-size:12pt"><div style="font-family: times new roman,new york,times,serif; font-size: 12pt;">I don't know Gary, is it possible? If someone happens to be in a position of power and is denying rights for homosexuals and homosexual couples that are already available for hetoresexuals and heterosexual couples, don't you think that they should be able clearly explain why they believe same sex marriage / hate crime / equal rights is bad for the country instead of just saying "I believe it's bad" without citing any specifics?<br><br>-Scott<br><br><div style="font-family: times new roman,new york,times,serif; font-size: 12pt;">----- Original Message ----<br>From: g. crabtree <jampot@roadrunner.com><br>To: Paul Rumelhart <godshatter@yahoo.com>; Scott Dredge <sdredge@yahoo.com><br>Cc:
vision2020@moscow.com<br>Sent: Wednesday, August 29, 2007 6:25:46 AM<br>Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Craig's official statement<br><br>
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<div><font face="Arial" size="2">Leaving aside the question of Senator Craig's
sexuality, did I miss the legislation that made it mandatory that all
homosexuals march in lockstep with the whole same sex marriage/hate crime/pro
special rights agenda? Is it not possible to be homosexual and sincerely
believe that these things are bad for the country and vote accordingly?
Apparently not, what the heck could I have been thinking...</font></div>
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<div><font face="Arial" size="2">From: "Paul Rumelhart" <</font><a rel="nofollow" target="_blank" href="mailto:godshatter@yahoo.com"><font face="Arial" size="2">godshatter@yahoo.com</font></a><font face="Arial" size="2">></font></div>
<div><font face="Arial" size="2">To: "Scott Dredge" <</font><a rel="nofollow" target="_blank" href="mailto:sdredge@yahoo.com"><font face="Arial" size="2">sdredge@yahoo.com</font></a><font face="Arial" size="2">></font></div>
<div><font face="Arial" size="2">Cc: <</font><a rel="nofollow" target="_blank" href="mailto:vision2020@moscow.com"><font face="Arial" size="2">vision2020@moscow.com</font></a><font face="Arial" size="2">></font></div>
<div><font face="Arial" size="2">Sent: Tuesday, August 28, 2007 6:45 PM</font></div>
<div><font face="Arial" size="2">Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Craig's official
statement</font></div></div>
<div><font face="Arial"><br><font size="2"></font></font></div><font face="Arial" size="2">> Hey, I don't have anything to prove here. I was just stating
that, <br>> based upon what I had heard at the time, it sounded possible that
he <br>> might have been innocent of the charges despite what he said in
court. <br>> Not that he *was* innocent, not that I wanted him to be
innocent, not <br>> that I even give a flying fsck whether he was innocent or
not. That was <br>> based upon a story that detailed the crimes of
touching another mans <br>> foot in the stall next to you and reaching under
the partition.<br>> <br>> What a truly horrific thing for me to say.
I should be ashamed of myself.<br>> <br>> At the time, I hadn't read the
NY Times article that Tom posted. The <br>> standing outside the
restroom door for two minutes looking through the <br>> crack thing falls
neatly into the category of "odd behavior".<br>> <br>> So, ok, maybe he is
a hypocrite. So here is another thought that will <br>> probably get me
reviled as Satan's second cousin or something, but how <br>> do you avoid be
hypocritical on some subjects when you are ostensibly <br>> representing your
constituents? What do you do if you are inwardly <br>> pro-homosexual,
but your constituency isn't? Were you elected to vote <br>> as you
wish? Or were you elected to vote as your constituency wishes?
<br>> If he's a hypocrite, he became one the day he courted the electorate
<br>> that differed from his own personal views.<br>> <br>>
Paul<br>> <br>> Scott Dredge wrote:<br>>> Oh give it up, Paul and
Roger. Are you guys not paying attention? You can find Larry Craig's
hypocrisy just about everywhere. Did you not see his press conference
today? The first sentence out of his mouth was, "Thank you all very much
for 'coming out' today" as if all the reporters and everyone else in the
audience had some closeted secret that had come to light and they were owning up
to it unlike himself. Criminy! If that ain't hypocrisy, I guess I don't
know what hypocrisy is. Of course, maybe I don't know. Hmmm...let me
think about that a bit...<br>>><br>>> -Scott<br>>><br>>>
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To: Paul Rumelhart <</font><a rel="nofollow" target="_blank" href="mailto:godshatter@yahoo.com"><font face="Arial" size="2">godshatter@yahoo.com</font></a><font face="Arial" size="2">>;
Joe Campbell <</font><a rel="nofollow" target="_blank" href="mailto:joekc@adelphia.net"><font face="Arial" size="2">joekc@adelphia.net</font></a><font face="Arial" size="2">><br>>> Cc:
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Sent: Tuesday, August 28, 2007 9:55:29 AM<br>>> Subject: Re: [Vision2020]
Craig's official statement<br>>><br>>> My sentiments also. I don't
know where Craig stands on sexuality. Joe. maybe you could let us know were the
hypocrisy is?<br>>> -----Original message-----<br>>> From: Paul
Rumelhart </font><a rel="nofollow" target="_blank" href="mailto:godshatter@yahoo.com"><font face="Arial" size="2">godshatter@yahoo.com</font></a><br><font face="Arial" size="2">>> Date:
Mon, 27 Aug 2007 20:25:26 -0700<br>>> To: Joe Campbell </font><a rel="nofollow" target="_blank" href="mailto:joekc@adelphia.net"><font face="Arial" size="2">joekc@adelphia.net</font></a><br><font face="Arial" size="2">>>
Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Craig's official
statement<br>>><br>>> <br>>>> Sure, be my
guest.<br>>>><br>>>> You're
welcome.<br>>>><br>>>> Is he actively anti-homosexual or
something? Despite the fact that he <br>>>> gave me a nomination
to the Air Force Academy in 1984 (which turned me <br>>>> down) I
haven't really followed his career that much.<br>>>><br>>>>
I'm just saying that I'd hate to be in that situation and not actually
<br>>>> be guilty. Tapping your right foot. Who knew?
I might also be tempted <br>>>> to just pay the damn fine and hope
nobody notices, too.<br>>>><br>>>> I do know I plan to keep
both feet solidly on the floor for the duration <br>>>> next time I'm
in an airport restroom.<br>>>><br>>>>
Paul<br>>>><br>>>> Joe Campbell
wrote:<br>>>> <br>>>>>
Paul,<br>>>>><br>>>>> You're not really that naive, are
you? How about hypocrisy? Can we accuse him of
that?<br>>>>><br>>>>> --<br>>>>> Joe
Campbell<br>>>>><br>>>>>
--------------------<br>>>>><br>>>>> The article I read
in the Washington Post said that he had tapped the <br>>>>> foot of
the person in the stall next him and reached under the <br>>>>>
partition. Naive to ways of the dance of restroom stall courtship and
<br>>>>> etiquette, I probably would have handed him some toilet
paper blithely <br>>>>> assuming that his dispenser was
empty.<br>>>>><br>>>>> I haven't yet read the articles
linked to earlier - so it's possible it <br>>>>> was more than that.
But given what the Post said, I can't really accuse <br>>>>> him of
much myself.<br>>>>><br>>>>>
Paul<br>>>>><br>>>>>
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