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<DIV><FONT face=Arial>Ms. Mix claims the issue of the death penalty and
homosexuality have not been addressed together. From the references I
cited:</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV>"On the one hand, we are being attacked for wanting to execute <SPAN
class=highlight>homosexuals</SPAN>, WHICH WE DO NOT, (my emphasis added) and on
the other hand, we are attacked for favoring homosexual marriages, which we do
not favor."</DIV>
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<DIV>"Homosexuals commit sodomy, heterosexuals commit adultery, and thieves
steal. Welcome to planet earth. But Jesus came to forgive sins. <I>Christ saves
sinners, all kinds.</I> Not only that, but He welcomes them into His
church."</DIV>
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<DIV>It would seem that the issue has been clearly addressed. I have to
guess that what Ms. Mix means is that it has not been addressed in a manner that
she finds personally palatable. Something involving abject apology
for a position not held and seppuku perhaps?</DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial>g</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV>
<DIV
style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: black"><B>From:</B>
<A title=kjajmix1@msn.com href="mailto:kjajmix1@msn.com">keely emerinemix</A>
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A title=jampot@roadrunner.com
href="mailto:jampot@roadrunner.com">g. crabtree</A> ; <A
title=ophite@gmail.com href="mailto:ophite@gmail.com">Andreas Schou</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Cc:</B> <A title=lfalen@turbonet.com
href="mailto:lfalen@turbonet.com">lfalen</A> ; <A title=joekc@adelphia.net
href="mailto:joekc@adelphia.net">Joe Campbell</A> ; <A
title=vision2020@moscow.com
href="mailto:vision2020@moscow.com">vision2020@moscow.com</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Wednesday, August 08, 2007 1:26
PM</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> RE: [Vision2020] Trinity
Festival protest</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>No, Gary, your ease-of-search experience does not refute my
pious contention that Christ Church has been terribly reticent in discussing
its views on homosexuality and the death penalty -- as a single issue.
Not "on homosexuality," and then, "on the death penalty," but on "the death
penalty as a possible punishment for homosexuality." You work in a field
that requires exactitude and specificity; why you're content with deception
and evasion posing as a legitimate virtue is beyond me.<BR><BR>I only ask that
Wilson, et al, not feign bewilderment when they're accused of teaching ugly
and divisive doctrine, and then ask us to accept their convoluted explanations
just because they're spoken in English, employ biting wit, or come from the
lips of a clergymember or elder. In other words, say what you mean, mean
what you say, and take the flack and the accolades that follow.<BR><BR>Pretty
simple, eh?<BR><BR>keely<BR><BR><BR><BR>"Were I to be again reduced to the
chains of slavery, next to that enslavement, I should regard being the slave
of a religious master the greatest calamity that could befall me. For of
all slaveholders whom whom I have ever met, religious slaveholders re the
worst. I have ever found the meanest and basest, the most cruel and
cowardly, of all others. It was my unhappy lot not only to belong to a
religious slaveholder, but to live in a community of such religionists."
Frederick Douglass, abolitionist, feminist, and former slave<BR><BR><BR><SPAN
style="FONT-STYLE: italic"></SPAN><BR><BR><BR>> From:
jampot@roadrunner.com<BR>> To: ophite@gmail.com<BR>> CC:
kjajmix1@msn.com; lfalen@turbonet.com; joekc@adelphia.net;
vision2020@moscow.com<BR>> Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Trinity Festival
protest<BR>> Date: Wed, 8 Aug 2007 12:38:01 -0700<BR>> <BR>> Mr.
Schou asks as though there were sinister implications to the answer:<BR>>
<BR>> Gary, who's been feeding you these links?<BR>> <BR>> Why would
any "feeding" be required? C/A is available online free of charge.<BR>>
<BR>> Wilson's blog is there for all to see. It has an excellent search
function.<BR>> <BR>> Cannon Press has a complete listing of available
materials for your pleasure <BR>> on their website.<BR>> <BR>> I hope
that this answers your burning question. It was the work of but a few <BR>>
moments to obtain the references I listed in my post. My question for you
<BR>> would be why would it matter? The simple fact that they exist seems
to <BR>> effectively rebut the assertion that CC is " terribly reticent to
discuss <BR>> its views on the death penalty for homosexuals."<BR>>
<BR>> g<BR>> <BR>> <BR>> <BR>> -- Original Message -----
<BR>> From: "Andreas Schou" <ophite@gmail.com><BR>> To: "g.
crabtree" <jampot@roadrunner.com><BR>> Cc: "keely emerinemix"
<kjajmix1@msn.com>; "lfalen" <lfalen@turbonet.com>; <BR>> "Joe
Campbell" <joekc@adelphia.net>; <vision2020@moscow.com><BR>>
Sent: Wednesday, August 08, 2007 9:16 AM<BR>> Subject: Re: [Vision2020]
Trinity Festival protest<BR>> <BR>> <BR>> >> Before swallowing
Mix, Campbell, Schou, and others of their ilk's <BR>> >>
breathless<BR>> >> assertions one would be well advised to go to the
source and review what <BR>> >> has<BR>> >> actually been
said. Since Ms. Mix mentions Credenda/Agenda one might do <BR>> >>
well<BR>> >> to start there. Please see Volume 16 number 2. The
entire issue is <BR>> >> devoted<BR>> >> to the topic and
nowhere will you see any evidence of the claims made by<BR>> >> CC's
usual antagonists. After dealing with that disappointment one might <BR>>
>> go<BR>> >> to Doug Wilson's own personnel blog and read
entries on 06/01/05 and<BR>> >> 08/30/05, the latter specifically and
in detail speaking to the <BR>> >> ridiculous<BR>> >> notion
expressed by our resident propagandists. And finally for the <BR>> >>
reading<BR>> >> challenged, one can listen to Wilson in his very own
voice speak to the<BR>> >> topic on the Cannon Press CD "The Sin of
Homophobia" lecture C 03/31/04.<BR>> ><BR>> > Yes, Gary. Why don't
we review what's been said:<BR>> ><BR>> > Slavery is a sin.
Slavery is not a sin.<BR>> ><BR>> > The Civil War unjustly crushed
the South. The Civil War was the<BR>> > judgment of an angry God on a
corrupt society.<BR>> ><BR>> > Homosexuality should be punished
with death. Homosexuality should not<BR>> > be punished with death.
Homosexuality should be punished with exile.<BR>> > Gay marriage is
wrong. Gay marriage is the judgment of an angry God on<BR>> > the United
States.<BR>> ><BR>> > The United States should be ruled according
to Mosaic law now. The<BR>> > United States should not be ruled
according to Mosaic law yet. The<BR>> > United States should only be
ruled according to Mosaic law when<BR>> > Americans are ready to be
ruled according to Mosaic law.<BR>> ><BR>> > Lying is wrong.
"Covenental lying," i.e. "lying to those outside the<BR>> > church," is
an exception.<BR>> ><BR>> > We consider Moscow a "tactical point."
We do not consider Moscow a<BR>> > "tactical point." We don't know what
you're talking about.<BR>> ><BR>> > We consider ourselves
Christian Reconstructionists. We don't consider<BR>> > ourselves
Christian Reconstructionists.<BR>> ><BR>> > Poor Doug Wilson,
always being misinterpreted -- and always stuck<BR>> > between appeasing
his local critics and not upsetting the<BR>> > mouth-breathing racists
who buy his books.<BR>> ><BR>> > Also, Gary, who's been feeding
you these links?<BR>> ><BR>> > -- ACS<BR>> > <BR>>
<BR>> <BR><BR>
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