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Ralph, <BR>
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I thought I'd hear from you on this!<BR>
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I believe that Jesus is in Heaven, having risen from the grave. You don't. And so, since some thinking people might take either of us seriously, let's let them decide -- with or without Josh McDowell, whose apologetic works I haven't read. <BR>
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But that's OK. He hasn't read mine, either.<BR>
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keely<BR><BR><SPAN style="FONT-STYLE: italic">"And these women that you spit on as they try to change their worlds/</SPAN><BR style="FONT-STYLE: italic"><SPAN style="FONT-STYLE: italic">Are immune to your consultations . . . they're quite aware of what they're going through"</SPAN><BR>(With apologies to David Bowie)<BR><BR><BR>> From: nielsen@uidaho.edu<BR>> Date: Sat, 28 Jul 2007 20:41:11 -0700<BR>> To: Vision2020@moscow.com<BR>> Subject: [Vision2020] Mere Christianity!<BR>> <BR>> Reading some of the reasons why some of our readers believe what they <BR>> call Christianity is like reading Josh McDowell, who cannot be taken <BR>> seriously by thinking people.<BR>> <BR>> There is no evidence that Jesus or anybody else rose from the dead, <BR>> whether in Christianity, Judaism, Hinduism, or whatever. The claim <BR>> that most of the alleged disciples of Jesus died martyr's death is <BR>> pure fiction. The Bible doesn't even agree on who they were. And <BR>> there are no credible accounts of how they were supposed to have <BR>> died. Of course, that in itself proves nothing about the alleged <BR>> "truth" for which they are supposed to have died. History is full of <BR>> martyrs who died for what they believed was the "truth."<BR>> <BR>> Here is another difficulty for resurrection believers. If Jesus rose <BR>> physically from the grave, where is he today--physically? The gospel <BR>> called Mark has no post-resurrection accounts at all. The one called <BR>> Matthew ends with Jesus on a mountain in Galilee. Luke has Jesus <BR>> going up into the clouds from Bethany, which is nowhere near Galilee. <BR>> John has no ascension account at all. His Jesus is already <BR>> transformed into a part-physical, part-spirit form which doesn't need <BR>> to ascend anywhere. Are these reliable eye-witness accounts? Give us <BR>> a break!<BR>> <BR>> =======================================================<BR>> List services made available by First Step Internet, <BR>> serving the communities of the Palouse since 1994. <BR>> http://www.fsr.net <BR>> mailto:Vision2020@moscow.com<BR>> =======================================================<BR><BR><br /><hr />See what you’re getting into…before you go there. <a href='http://newlivehotmail.com' target='_new'>Check it out!</a></body>
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